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Carpet grippers and underlay fitting help
The carpet fitter is coming tomorrow, and before that I need to fit the
above that I just bought. As I have never done it before my questions a - How far from the skirting should the wooden gripper rods be fitted? The new carpet goes in two rooms - one with "normal" skirting and the other with skirting that was fixed around 3/4" above the floor (not sure why, was there when I got it), so I fixed a quarter round/circle bidding to the bottom of it to cover the void. Should the rooms be treated differently as a result - i.e. should I fit the grippers further or closer to the skirting? - Can I assume that once the gripper rods are in place I simply unroll the underlay in the space in the middle, butting it against the rods? Also, stupid question, I know, but which side goes up? The underlay I use is similar to this one http://www.underlayuk.co.uk/luxury.php - Does the underlay need to be fixed to the wooed floor once laid? i.e. carpet tacks, etc. Many thanks in advance. PS: the carpet is a cheapish felt back one if that makes a difference. |
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JoeJoe wrote:
The carpet fitter is coming tomorrow, and before that I need to fit the above that I just bought. As I have never done it before my questions a - How far from the skirting should the wooden gripper rods be fitted? The new carpet goes in two rooms - one with "normal" skirting and the other with skirting that was fixed around 3/4" above the floor (not sure why, was there when I got it), so I fixed a quarter round/circle bidding to the bottom of it to cover the void. Should the rooms be treated differently as a result - i.e. should I fit the grippers further or closer to the skirting? - Can I assume that once the gripper rods are in place I simply unroll the underlay in the space in the middle, butting it against the rods? Also, stupid question, I know, but which side goes up? The underlay I use is similar to this one http://www.underlayuk.co.uk/luxury.php - Does the underlay need to be fixed to the wooed floor once laid? i.e. carpet tacks, etc. Many thanks in advance. PS: the carpet is a cheapish felt back one if that makes a difference. AIUI you don't use grippers with felt backed carpet - the spikes on the gripper will just shred the felt. |
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On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:47:21 +0000, Richard Conway
wrote: JoeJoe wrote: The carpet fitter is coming tomorrow, and before that I need to fit the above that I just bought. As I have never done it before my questions a - How far from the skirting should the wooden gripper rods be fitted? The new carpet goes in two rooms - one with "normal" skirting and the other with skirting that was fixed around 3/4" above the floor (not sure why, was there when I got it), so I fixed a quarter round/circle bidding to the bottom of it to cover the void. Should the rooms be treated differently as a result - i.e. should I fit the grippers further or closer to the skirting? - Can I assume that once the gripper rods are in place I simply unroll the underlay in the space in the middle, butting it against the rods? Also, stupid question, I know, but which side goes up? The underlay I use is similar to this one http://www.underlayuk.co.uk/luxury.php - Does the underlay need to be fixed to the wooed floor once laid? i.e. carpet tacks, etc. Many thanks in advance. PS: the carpet is a cheapish felt back one if that makes a difference. AIUI you don't use grippers with felt backed carpet - the spikes on the gripper will just shred the felt. Fix the underlay using a stapler .Carpet Fitters use one thats a bit like a small hammer and they just go round hitting it on to the undelay and the staples go through to the floor . a Why isn't your carpet fitter doing all this anyway .??? As for the quadrant ..I would think this should be removed ....No.??? Stuart |
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- How far from the skirting should the wooden gripper rods be fitted? The same distance as the thickness of the carpet. The new carpet goes in two rooms - one with "normal" skirting and the other with skirting that was fixed around 3/4" above the floor (not sure why, was there when I got it), Perhaps the floor's dropped. so I fixed a quarter round/circle bidding to the bottom of it to cover the void. Should the rooms be treated differently as a result - i.e. should I fit the grippers further or closer to the skirting? That's not going to work terribly well. You would have done better to re-do the skirtings, or fill the gap with batten. - Can I assume that once the gripper rods are in place I simply unroll the underlay in the space in the middle, butting it against the rods? Yup. You don't want big gaps, but you don't want to have to ruckle the stuff up to get it in, it should lie flat. Also, stupid question, I know, but which side goes up? The underlay I use is similar to this one http://www.underlayuk.co.uk/luxury.php Smooth side up. - Does the underlay need to be fixed to the wooed floor once laid? i.e. carpet tacks, etc. You could put some staples in, and tape the joins, but this is something the fitter can do very quickly. If you do put tacks in, make sure they're "home" or you'll get pimples in your carpet. I'd just leave it up to the fitter. PS: the carpet is a cheapish felt back one if that makes a difference. These are often glued straight to the floor (around the edges)! It's reasonable carpet for the price, should be fine with the underlay as well. |
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Richard Conway wrote: JoeJoe wrote: The carpet fitter is coming tomorrow, and before that I need to fit the above that I just bought. As I have never done it before my questions a - How far from the skirting should the wooden gripper rods be fitted? The new carpet goes in two rooms - one with "normal" skirting and the other with skirting that was fixed around 3/4" above the floor (not sure why, was there when I got it), so I fixed a quarter round/circle bidding to the bottom of it to cover the void. Should the rooms be treated differently as a result - i.e. should I fit the grippers further or closer to the skirting? - Can I assume that once the gripper rods are in place I simply unroll the underlay in the space in the middle, butting it against the rods? Also, stupid question, I know, but which side goes up? The underlay I use is similar to this one http://www.underlayuk.co.uk/luxury.php - Does the underlay need to be fixed to the wooed floor once laid? i.e. carpet tacks, etc. Many thanks in advance. PS: the carpet is a cheapish felt back one if that makes a difference. AIUI you don't use grippers with felt backed carpet - the spikes on the gripper will just shred the felt. Works fine for me. MBQ |
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"Chris Bacon" wrote in message ... JoeJoe wrote: - How far from the skirting should the wooden gripper rods be fitted? The same distance as the thickness of the carpet. So very very close to the skirting then - just a few millimetres away? The new carpet goes in two rooms - one with "normal" skirting and the other with skirting that was fixed around 3/4" above the floor (not sure why, was there when I got it), Perhaps the floor's dropped. Not in this case, as it runs around the whole room. so I fixed a quarter round/circle bidding to the bottom of it to cover the void. Should the rooms be treated differently as a result - i.e. should I fit the grippers further or closer to the skirting? That's not going to work terribly well. You would have done better to re-do the skirtings, or fill the gap with batten. I suspected that, but the only reason I did this was because it was already half done using quarter circle, especially around the problematic areas - i.e. bay window, and a few other odd angles that I did not fancy replacing. - Can I assume that once the gripper rods are in place I simply unroll the underlay in the space in the middle, butting it against the rods? Yup. You don't want big gaps, but you don't want to have to ruckle the stuff up to get it in, it should lie flat. Also, stupid question, I know, but which side goes up? The underlay I use is similar to this one http://www.underlayuk.co.uk/luxury.php Smooth side up. Are you sure? My gut feeling was the other way round (good point I asked first...). - Does the underlay need to be fixed to the wooed floor once laid? i.e. carpet tacks, etc. You could put some staples in, and tape the joins, but this is something the fitter can do very quickly. If you do put tacks in, make sure they're "home" or you'll get pimples in your carpet. I'd just leave it up to the fitter. PS: the carpet is a cheapish felt back one if that makes a difference. These are often glued straight to the floor (around the edges)! It's reasonable carpet for the price, should be fine with the underlay as well. All the carpets I had in the past were glued, but considering the state of the floorboards in these rooms I didn't think that the glue was going to work. In the past the fitter ended up using a few staples in the places were the glue did not catch, and it looked awful... Hence the grippers/underlay this time. Will the felt-baked carpet be OK with the grippers? Someone above suggested otherwise... |
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reader04.plus.net, says... "Chris Bacon" wrote in message ... Smooth side up. Are you sure? My gut feeling was the other way round (good point I asked first...). Smooth side up. Look he http://tinyurl.com/gatg9 -- Ziggur "S'ils te mordent, mords-les" |
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"Chris Bacon" wrote... JoeJoe wrote: - How far from the skirting should the wooden gripper rods be fitted? The same distance as the thickness of the carpet. So very very close to the skirting then - just a few millimetres away? AFAIR felt-backed carpet is about 7mm thick. The new carpet goes in two rooms - one with "normal" skirting and the other with skirting that was fixed around 3/4" above the floor (not sure why, was there when I got it), Perhaps the floor's dropped. Not in this case, as it runs around the whole room. Should be easier to fix (if you do)! No idea why the skirting's that high, unless someone's laid a floor covering and put the skirting on it. so I fixed a quarter round/circle bidding to the bottom of it to cover the void. Should the rooms be treated differently as a result - i.e. should I fit the grippers further or closer to the skirting? That's not going to work terribly well. You would have done better to re-do the skirtings, or fill the gap with batten. I suspected that, but the only reason I did this was because it was already half done using quarter circle, especially around the problematic areas - i.e. bay window, and a few other odd angles that I did not fancy replacing. Another option would be to remove your quadrant, lay the carpet, then re-fit the quadrant (oot too tight to the carpet). This would be a bit of a bodge, but would look better than butting carpet up to quadrant. Also, stupid question, I know, but which side goes up? The underlay I use is similar to this one http://www.underlayuk.co.uk/luxury.php Smooth side up. Are you sure? My gut feeling was the other way round (good point I asked first...). You should find "this side up" printed on the underlay or a picture on the bag, if you're not sure. Will the felt-baked carpet be OK with the grippers? Someone above suggested otherwise... It's OK. If you really want to do a job, you could use spray glue *as well*! As you're having it laid the fitter will advise. |
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"Stuart" wrote in message ... On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:47:21 +0000, Richard Conway wrote: JoeJoe wrote: The carpet fitter is coming tomorrow, and before that I need to fit the above that I just bought. As I have never done it before my questions a - How far from the skirting should the wooden gripper rods be fitted? The new carpet goes in two rooms - one with "normal" skirting and the other with skirting that was fixed around 3/4" above the floor (not sure why, was there when I got it), so I fixed a quarter round/circle bidding to the bottom of it to cover the void. Should the rooms be treated differently as a result - i.e. should I fit the grippers further or closer to the skirting? - Can I assume that once the gripper rods are in place I simply unroll the underlay in the space in the middle, butting it against the rods? Also, stupid question, I know, but which side goes up? The underlay I use is similar to this one http://www.underlayuk.co.uk/luxury.php - Does the underlay need to be fixed to the wooed floor once laid? i.e. carpet tacks, etc. Many thanks in advance. PS: the carpet is a cheapish felt back one if that makes a difference. AIUI you don't use grippers with felt backed carpet - the spikes on the gripper will just shred the felt. Fix the underlay using a stapler .Carpet Fitters use one thats a bit like a small hammer and they just go round hitting it on to the undelay and the staples go through to the floor . a Why isn't your carpet fitter doing all this anyway .??? He'd be happy to do that, but will charge me as I was informed by the carpt shop. Seemsilly to pay for what apears to be an easy job (if you know what to do - hnce my quoestions). |
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On 01/03/2006 14:36 JoeJoe wrote:
skirting that was fixed around 3/4" above the floor (not sure why, was there when I got it) For the floor covering to tuck under? -- F (Beware of spam trap - remove the negative) |
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No way - it is way too high.
"F" wrote in message ... On 01/03/2006 14:36 JoeJoe wrote: skirting that was fixed around 3/4" above the floor (not sure why, was there when I got it) For the floor covering to tuck under? -- F (Beware of spam trap - remove the negative) |
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"F" wrote... JoeJoe wrote: skirting that was fixed around 3/4" above the floor (not sure why, was there when I got it) For the floor covering to tuck under? No way - it is way too high. Laminate + underlay? |
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"Chris Bacon" wrote in message ... JoeJoe wrote: "F" wrote... JoeJoe wrote: skirting that was fixed around 3/4" above the floor (not sure why, was there when I got it) For the floor covering to tuck under? No way - it is way too high. Laminate + underlay? Well, there were in fact 1 underlay + 3 carpets, one on top of the other in that room when I bought the place... and this one was the room in the best condition... |
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On 01/03/2006 19:59 JoeJoe wrote:
No way - it is way too high. Shagpile? Cough! -- F (Beware of spam trap - remove the negative) |
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