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Ghazali August 26th 03 03:55 PM

Connecting Delinghi Gas Cooker to flexible (threaded) hose connector
 
Can anyone help.
I recently purchased a second hand Delonghi gas cooker (Don't have
model name) but is not more than 3 years old.

The cooker has two connection points at the back. These are
effectively an inverted L shape pipe protruding from the back.
(Apparently common for European type cookers). At the botton of the
pipe is a threaded (male) connector (3/4" diameter). The problem is
that this connector, when not connected is free to travel up and down
(to the end) of the pipe.

When I connect my flexible hose with (female) threaded connector to
the male connector in the cooker, there is still travel in the cooker
connector.
I have tried to different size connectors, and both have same problem.

In other words the pipe, when connected and fully tightened, is still
able to travel upwards about 2 to 3 cms. Obviously therefore the gas
leaks.

Here are the questions:

Is there a proper connector I can get? I.e. ine with a collar in the
middle so that both connection points will be sealed against the
collar.
If so what exactly is this called and where to buy from.

Can I use the putty type jointing compound (by Fernox I think). I do
not really want to use this, because it seems like a dodgy way of
doing it.

I would ask my plumber - but he's on hols at present.

Your help would be appreciated.

GAZ

tarquinlinbin August 26th 03 05:18 PM

Connecting Delinghi Gas Cooker to flexible (threaded) hose connector
 
On 26 Aug 2003 07:55:47 -0700, (Ghazali)
wrote:

Can anyone help.
I recently purchased a second hand Delonghi gas cooker (Don't have
model name) but is not more than 3 years old.

It would appear that you are not competent to do this job.

Ghazali August 27th 03 11:57 AM

Connecting Delinghi Gas Cooker to flexible (threaded) hose connector
 
tarquinlinbin wrote in message . ..
On 26 Aug 2003 07:55:47 -0700, (Ghazali)
wrote:

Can anyone help.
I recently purchased a second hand Delonghi gas cooker (Don't have
model name) but is not more than 3 years old.

It would appear that you are not competent to do this job.


How can you conclude that?

Why does one need to know the name of the cooker to be competent for
the job.
If you asked a plumber to fit a gas cooker for you - do you think you
would need to tell him the exact make and model of the cooker before
he came round? Do you not think he would be competent enough to know
how to fit a cooker - regardless of its make and model.

Oh and BTW - Thanks for all your help!!!!
(But perhaps in future you could stick to answering my questions
rather than making useless comments!!)

Andrew Gabriel August 27th 03 03:39 PM

Connecting Delinghi Gas Cooker to flexible (threaded) hose connector
 
In article ,
(Ghazali) writes:
tarquinlinbin wrote in message . ..
On 26 Aug 2003 07:55:47 -0700,
(Ghazali)
wrote:

Can anyone help.
I recently purchased a second hand Delonghi gas cooker (Don't have
model name) but is not more than 3 years old.

It would appear that you are not competent to do this job.


How can you conclude that?


Sorry, but it was quite clear to me from your question.
This means it is both illegal and dangerous for you to
undertake the work.

Why does one need to know the name of the cooker to be competent for
the job.
If you asked a plumber to fit a gas cooker for you - do you think you
would need to tell him the exact make and model of the cooker before
he came round? Do you not think he would be competent enough to know
how to fit a cooker - regardless of its make and model.


You are picking up on the wrong point.

Oh and BTW - Thanks for all your help!!!!


I think the best possible help is to advise you to get someone
competent to undertake the work.

I am all for DIY, but a very important part of DIY is knowing
when not to.

--
Andrew Gabriel

tarquinlinbin August 27th 03 03:56 PM

Connecting Delinghi Gas Cooker to flexible (threaded) hose connector
 
On 27 Aug 2003 03:57:03 -0700, (Ghazali)
wrote:

tarquinlinbin wrote in message . ..
On 26 Aug 2003 07:55:47 -0700,
(Ghazali)
wrote:

Can anyone help.
I recently purchased a second hand Delonghi gas cooker (Don't have
model name) but is not more than 3 years old.

It would appear that you are not competent to do this job.


How can you conclude that?

Why does one need to know the name of the cooker to be competent for
the job.
If you asked a plumber to fit a gas cooker for you - do you think you
would need to tell him the exact make and model of the cooker before
he came round? Do you not think he would be competent enough to know
how to fit a cooker - regardless of its make and model.

Oh and BTW - Thanks for all your help!!!!
(But perhaps in future you could stick to answering my questions
rather than making useless comments!!)

There is no need to get shirty. I was not making a personal assault on
your good self and my comment is entirely valid IMHO.

As Clint Eastwood said (In Dirty Harry) "A man needs to know his
limitations".

There is no big issue with this,I have worked in the gas industry for
25 years and have had experience of varying degrees on equipment
ranging from domestic cookers to National Grid transmission systems
up to 30 Bar. Still I know my limitations in the field of Gas
engineering and If i dont know or am unsure,I leave it to someone else
who does know. The law requires it AND it is a safe and professional
way in which to conduct myself.

Back to your position. Clearly it appears that you do not have
sufficient experience of identifying commonly used fittings for
domestic installations. It would therefore seems prudent,in the
interests of your safety and that of others,that you engage someone
who is fully conversant with such matters,can demonstrate competency
and complete the job safely and to the required standard.

Its not a big issue. For example, I know Jack Sh** about Bosch
Mono-motronic fuel injection systems. My car has one,it has a
fault(just developed this week) ,i havent a clue therefore I pass it
to the expert at a suitably equipped dealership. I don;t get all upset
about it,I recognise my limitations.



Ed Sirett August 27th 03 04:43 PM

Connecting Delinghi Gas Cooker to flexible (threaded) hose connector
 
tarquinlinbin wrote:

On 27 Aug 2003 03:57:03 -0700, (Ghazali)
wrote:

tarquinlinbin wrote in message . ..
On 26 Aug 2003 07:55:47 -0700,
(Ghazali)
wrote:

Can anyone help.
I recently purchased a second hand Delonghi gas cooker (Don't have
model name) but is not more than 3 years old.

It would appear that you are not competent to do this job.


How can you conclude that?

Why does one need to know the name of the cooker to be competent for
the job.
If you asked a plumber to fit a gas cooker for you - do you think you
would need to tell him the exact make and model of the cooker before
he came round? Do you not think he would be competent enough to know
how to fit a cooker - regardless of its make and model.

Oh and BTW - Thanks for all your help!!!!
(But perhaps in future you could stick to answering my questions
rather than making useless comments!!)

There is no need to get shirty. I was not making a personal assault on
your good self and my comment is entirely valid IMHO.

As Clint Eastwood said (In Dirty Harry) "A man needs to know his
limitations".

There is no big issue with this,I have worked in the gas industry for
25 years and have had experience of varying degrees on equipment
ranging from domestic cookers to National Grid transmission systems
up to 30 Bar. Still I know my limitations in the field of Gas
engineering and If i dont know or am unsure,I leave it to someone else
who does know. The law requires it AND it is a safe and professional
way in which to conduct myself.

Back to your position. Clearly it appears that you do not have
sufficient experience of identifying commonly used fittings for
domestic installations. It would therefore seems prudent,in the
interests of your safety and that of others,that you engage someone
who is fully conversant with such matters,can demonstrate competency
and complete the job safely and to the required standard.

Its not a big issue. For example, I know Jack Sh** about Bosch
Mono-motronic fuel injection systems. My car has one,it has a
fault(just developed this week) ,i havent a clue therefore I pass it
to the expert at a suitably equipped dealership. I don;t get all upset
about it,I recognise my limitations.


I am familiar with the type of fitting the OP has mentioned.
Traditionally cookers usually have a 1/2" BSP female connection.
Many modern cookers have a flanged connection witha 1/2" female back
nut.
The fitting on the end of a standard flexible gas hose is 1/2" BPS taper
male.
The taper prevents the back nut from closing the fitting even though at
first sight they seem together.
So the correct fitting to install the cooker is a converter from 1/2"
female to 1/2" paralell male iron and a neoprene washer to seal the
join.

Whilst I support competant diy if you need to ask about this sort of
matter then you are not sufficiently experienced.


--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at
www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html


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