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When is a partition not a partition?
I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been built with timber stud partitions". My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is he talking ********? MBQ |
When is a partition not a partition?
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When is a partition not a partition?
He's talking ********! victorian terraced houses have always been 'brick'
partitions And an awful lot of not-as-old-as-victorian houses had cinder block, which gives grey dust when you drill it. Partition walls in new houses resonate like a drum. I thought there were to be some new regs about sound transmission between rooms. If so, maybe the barrat boxes will have to start using blocks again between bedrooms. Simon. |
When is a partition not a partition?
manatbandq wrote:
I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been built with timber stud partitions". My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is he talking ********? I think it's interpretation and terminology - a partition wall just divides a larger space, and isn't vital to the structure as a whole. Note, he says "have always been built with", rather that "are always built with", with which I can agree. |
When is a partition not a partition?
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
wrote: I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been built with timber stud partitions". My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is he talking ********? MBQ He's talking ********! victorian terraced houses have always been 'brick' partitions oops! hold the front page, recollections of me younger days on the job reveals some walls where studded, they being a none load bearing wall. -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
When is a partition not a partition?
wrote in message oups.com... I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been built with timber stud partitions". My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is he talking ********? Yep ******** but while we are on the subject, is it safe to assume partitions that run in the direction of the beams above are not supporting walls ? is it also safe to assume all upstairs walls with just the loft above are non supporting (provided there is no obvious roof strut resting upon it) -- Vass |
When is a partition not a partition?
wrote in message oups.com... I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been built with timber stud partitions". My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is he talking ********? It depends on your interpretation of what he wrote. Timber stud partitions (aka walls) have been used in British houses for centuries - but not to the exclusion of other methods. Thus, British houses HAVE always been built with timber stud partitions. Not ALL British houses have been built with timber stud partitions. Boy babies have always been born to women but not all babies born to women have been boys. Thank goodness. People do tend to assume that readers will understand what they write. Readers do tend to put their own connotation on anything which could be ambiguous. There are many examples of each in newsgroups and this one isn't an exception. Mary |
When is a partition not a partition?
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When is a partition not a partition?
Vass wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been built with timber stud partitions". My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is he talking ********? Yep ******** but while we are on the subject, is it safe to assume partitions that run in the direction of the beams above are not supporting walls ? is it also safe to assume all upstairs walls with just the loft above are non supporting (provided there is no obvious roof strut resting upon it) They could be buttressing a wall that they meet at right angles. MBQ |
When is a partition not a partition?
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:59:50 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote: | wrote in message roups.com... |I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web | version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been | built with timber stud partitions". | | My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs | and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is | he talking ********? | |It depends on your interpretation of what he wrote. | |Timber stud partitions (aka walls) have been used in British houses for |centuries - but not to the exclusion of other methods. Thus, British houses |HAVE always been built with timber stud partitions. Not ALL British houses |have been built with timber stud partitions. | |Boy babies have always been born to women but not all babies born to women |have been boys. | |Thank goodness. | |People do tend to assume that readers will understand what they write. |Readers do tend to put their own connotation on anything which could be |ambiguous. | |There are many examples of each in newsgroups and this one isn't an |exception. OMG I agree with Mary ;-) -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk 17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/ |
When is a partition not a partition?
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On 18 Jan 2006 04:11:06 -0800, wrote: I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been built with timber stud partitions". My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is he talking ********? MBQ He's generally "not well informed" to be kind about it. There was an article on condensing boilers some while ago, where he dredged up information based on UK first generation products (which were crap) and what he might have heard at the morning mother's meeting in the plumbing merchants. A great deal of inaccurate information. I can think of a variety of wall construction methods that I have seen for partition walls (meaning non-structural): - single brick - single concrete block - single breezeblock - lath and plaster on timber studs - plasterboard on studs - paramount - .... I can add: 2" plaster blocks reinforced with straw and covered with sand/cement render then plaster (I have some!). |
When is a partition not a partition?
wrote in message ups.com... Vass wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been built with timber stud partitions". My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is he talking ********? Yep ******** but while we are on the subject, is it safe to assume partitions that run in the direction of the beams above are not supporting walls ? is it also safe to assume all upstairs walls with just the loft above are non supporting (provided there is no obvious roof strut resting upon it) They could be buttressing a wall that they meet at right angles. yes of course, silly me -- Vass |
When is a partition not a partition?
Vass wrote:
Yep ******** but while we are on the subject, is it safe to assume partitions that run in the direction of the beams above are not supporting walls ? is it also safe to assume all upstairs walls with just the loft above are non supporting (provided there is no obvious roof strut resting upon it) These walls often support the joists above, plus maybe water tanks. NT |
When is a partition not a partition?
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"The3rd Earl Of Derby" writes: wrote: I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been built with timber stud partitions". My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is he talking ********? He's talking ********! victorian terraced houses have always been 'brick' partitions No, you are. Timber framed lath and plaster walls are common in Victorian terraced houses. T&G panelled walls are also not unknown from that time. -- Andrew Gabriel |
When is a partition not a partition?
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , "The3rd Earl Of Derby" writes: wrote: I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been built with timber stud partitions". My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is he talking ********? He's talking ********! victorian terraced houses have always been 'brick' partitions No, you are. Timber framed lath and plaster walls are common in Victorian terraced houses. T&G panelled walls are also not unknown from that time. Woops! and then somewhere else in the thread I said... "oops! hold the front page, recollections of me younger days on the job reveals some walls where studded, they being a none load bearing wall". -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
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