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john December 7th 05 10:35 PM

OT. Norman Kember
 
Why doesn't the government ban travel to places such as Iraq. It shouldn't
be possible for such a do-gooder to set foot in such a place of hatred.

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Colin Wilson December 7th 05 11:01 PM

OT. Norman Kember
 
Why doesn't the government ban travel to places such as Iraq. It shouldn't
be possible for such a do-gooder to set foot in such a place of hatred.


Generally speaking, with the exception of genuine charity workers, the
people who are there at the moment are there for one reason - money.

Even if they`re not waving a gun about, they`re mercenaries in all but
name.

Would you, a regular citizen, consider visiting Iraq for ANY reason at
present ?

No, and neither would I.

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john December 8th 05 12:09 AM

OT. Norman Kember
 

"Colin Wilson" wrote in message
t...
Why doesn't the government ban travel to places such as Iraq. It
shouldn't
be possible for such a do-gooder to set foot in such a place of hatred.


Generally speaking, with the exception of genuine charity workers, the
people who are there at the moment are there for one reason - money.

Even if they`re not waving a gun about, they`re mercenaries in all but
name.

Would you, a regular citizen, consider visiting Iraq for ANY reason at
present ?

No, and neither would I.


....and look how they treat charity workers. They have such a radically
different system of values. It is impossible for the western democratic mind
to understand them. Keep away.



raden December 8th 05 12:16 AM

OT. Norman Kember
 
In message , john
writes
Why doesn't the government ban travel to places such as Iraq. It shouldn't
be possible for such a do-gooder to set foot in such a place of hatred.

How can it

prat

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Tony Bryer December 8th 05 11:43 AM

OT. Norman Kember
 
In article , John wrote:
Why doesn't the government ban travel to places such as Iraq. It shouldn't
be possible for such a do-gooder to set foot in such a place of hatred.


AFAIK our government is not in a position to ban us from going anywhere. The
Foreign Office issues advice on (not) visiting certain countries but it is
no more than this.

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Christian McArdle December 8th 05 11:55 AM

OT. Norman Kember
 
Why doesn't the government ban travel to places such as Iraq. It shouldn't
be possible for such a do-gooder to set foot in such a place of hatred.


What right do you or the government have to tell charity workers to withdraw
their much needed services?

Christian.



Rob Morley December 8th 05 05:30 PM

OT. Norman Kember
 
In article ,
says...
Why doesn't the government ban travel to places such as Iraq.


In case you hadn't noticed, Iraq is just over the road from Turkey, and
only totalitarian governments attempt to prevent their citizens from
travelling freely.

It shouldn't be possible for such a do-gooder to set foot in such a
place of hatred.


If you think he's a do-gooder presumably you don't value his continued
existence too highly anyway, so why do you care?

tarquinlinbin December 8th 05 09:06 PM

OT. Norman Kember
 
On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:35:08 GMT, "john"
wrote:

Why doesn't the government ban travel to places such as Iraq. It shouldn't
be possible for such a do-gooder to set foot in such a place of hatred.

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Rubbish.hes an adult,he rolled the dice and hes about to pay with his
life.



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Terry December 10th 05 07:20 PM

OT. Norman Kember
 

"tarquinlinbin" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:35:08 GMT, "john"
wrote:

Why doesn't the government ban travel to places such as Iraq. It shouldn't
be possible for such a do-gooder to set foot in such a place of hatred.

--

Rubbish.hes an adult,he rolled the dice and hes about to pay with his
life.

While first of all deploring any group or society that uses or condones such
vindictive, cowardly and useless tactics, going voluntarily into such a
situation is known to be risky. So one is very much 'Entering the lion's
den' as it were!
It also makes it very difficult for one's home government to look after or
intercede on one's behalf in the normal manner that should occur with
'authorities' in an organised, smoothly running and non corrupt society.
I'm not sure that such self-sacrifice IS really productive; even though it
may persuade some people in the targeted society, other than the 'abductors'
themselves, that these are 'pretty decent and helpful people' who have come
to help us voluntarily 'from a society of caring and helpful people'!
However the abductors may be laughing all the way to the bank. With in their
minds; "If not these foolish sheep to use or make a point with/about, or
raise money from ransoming and possibly killing, there's plenty of others!"
Opinion




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