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Sammy November 11th 05 03:39 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.

----

Does a domestic microwave detroy data on a magnetic strip?

I tried using some of those strong magnets taken from a hard drive.
I put one above and one below the bank card and then slowly drew the
magnets along the magnetic strip. Is this enough? Is it better to
do this relatively quickly or relatively slowly?

ISTR something about vertical and horizontal magnetic polarization
and maybe this is something I have to deal with in case it makes the
magnetic data harder to destroy???

Is it better to scratch the magnetic strip with a sharp point?

Alex November 11th 05 03:41 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
Sammy wrote:
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.


I'm not sure that there's much more stored on there than there is
printed on the card itself...

alex

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Technical Support Officer
Computing Service
University of Kent

Rub November 11th 05 03:42 PM

Destroying data on bank card
 
Why don't you just pick up a few mobile-top-up cards, loyalty cards ect
for your jobs around the house and dispose of the bank cards the
"Normal" way?


Christian McArdle November 11th 05 03:43 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.


Use something else for DIY. Cut up your cards, kaing sure you cut the
magnetic strip, the chips and the number. Then place half of the pieces in
two separate bins.

Christian.



[email protected] November 11th 05 03:46 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 

Christian McArdle wrote:
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.


Use something else for DIY. Cut up your cards, kaing sure you cut the
magnetic strip, the chips and the number. Then place half of the pieces in
two separate bins.


What do you do with the other half?

Sorry.

MBQ


The3rd Earl Of Derby November 11th 05 03:46 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
Sammy wrote:
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.

----

Does a domestic microwave detroy data on a magnetic strip?

I tried using some of those strong magnets taken from a hard drive.
I put one above and one below the bank card and then slowly drew the
magnets along the magnetic strip. Is this enough? Is it better to
do this relatively quickly or relatively slowly?

ISTR something about vertical and horizontal magnetic polarization
and maybe this is something I have to deal with in case it makes the
magnetic data harder to destroy???

Is it better to scratch the magnetic strip with a sharp point?


Run a lighter along the mag strip.
If you want I can send you a scraper?
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite



Sam Wormley November 11th 05 03:50 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
Sammy wrote:
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.


Bulk tape degausser works well, but, in my opinion, these cards
should be totally destroyed. You can get a small copper plate
for "jobs around the house".

Alex November 11th 05 03:51 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
wrote:
Use something else for DIY. Cut up your cards, kaing sure you cut the
magnetic strip, the chips and the number. Then place half of the pieces in
two separate bins.



What do you do with the other half?


You swallow them of course.

alex

--
Alex Meaden
Technical Support Officer
Computing Service
University of Kent

[email protected] November 11th 05 03:53 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 

Sammy wrote:
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house.


I restrict my jobs to the appropriate place and clean up with Andrex

MBQ


Richard Conway November 11th 05 04:00 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
Alex wrote:
wrote:

Use something else for DIY. Cut up your cards, kaing sure you cut the
magnetic strip, the chips and the number. Then place half of the
pieces in
two separate bins.



What do you do with the other half?



You swallow them of course.

alex


And then dispose of in two separate toilets

Chris Bacon November 11th 05 04:00 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
Sammy wrote:
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.


Scrape it off with a sharp knife.

What do you use the card for, AAMOI?

John Schmitt November 11th 05 04:01 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:39:51 -0000, Sammy wrote:

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.


I tried using some of those strong magnets taken from a hard drive.
I put one above and one below the bank card and then slowly drew the
magnets along the magnetic strip. Is this enough? Is it better to
do this relatively quickly or relatively slowly?


If the magnet is strong, it will take out the strip data. I expect a
record antistatic gun will do the chip. Until my replacement for my
cracked cashcard arrives, I will not be experimenting, but will report
back. The embossed data and the card ID on the signature strip are enough
to be fraudulent, but normally when the following card is used, the other
card is disabled by the supplier. As has been said points cards are easy
to get, so easy that most of the skimmers used to use them as blanks. With
the phasing out of magnetic strips for transactive use, it appears that
more card fraud is committed via the internet, phone, or mail order.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4418140.stm


John Schmitt

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J. Clarke November 11th 05 04:24 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
Sammy wrote:

I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.

----

Does a domestic microwave detroy data on a magnetic strip?

I tried using some of those strong magnets taken from a hard drive.
I put one above and one below the bank card and then slowly drew the
magnets along the magnetic strip. Is this enough? Is it better to
do this relatively quickly or relatively slowly?

ISTR something about vertical and horizontal magnetic polarization
and maybe this is something I have to deal with in case it makes the
magnetic data harder to destroy???

Is it better to scratch the magnetic strip with a sharp point?


Sandpaper is your friend.

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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

[email protected] November 11th 05 04:25 PM

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Chris Bacon wrote:
Sammy wrote:
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.


Scrape it off with a sharp knife.

What do you use the card for, AAMOI?


They're good for mixing epoxy on, applying polyfilla, extra shims for
tile spacing. Lots of other uses too.

MBQ


Bob Eager November 11th 05 04:41 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:39:51 UTC, Sammy wrote:

I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.


I'd use a scraper of some kind.

Either a trimming knife blade, or a plastic card (e.g. a credit card)
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Alistair Riddell November 11th 05 04:45 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Sammy wrote:

I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.


I had cause to test this recently with mag stripe cards we use at work.

A few wipes with a rare earth metal magnet from a hard drive will usually
do the trick.

It is probably a good idea to sandpaper off the mag stripe and signature
strip including card verification value. There is significantly more
information on the mag stripe than appears embossed on the card, but the
card itself may be potentially more useful to fraudsters than the
information in it.

I don't think a microwave oven would be a particularly good way of erasing
a magnetic strip but it would probably be a good way of ensuring that any
smart chip never functions again.

--
Alistair Riddell - BOFH
Microsoft - because god hates us

Gregory L. Hansen November 11th 05 05:18 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
In article ,
Sammy wrote:
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.


Destroying the magnetic strip won't gain you anything if the embossed
account number is still readable.
--
"We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters
will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to
the Internet, we know this is not true." -- Robert Wilensky

Rod Speed November 11th 05 06:28 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
Sammy wrote

I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them
for jobs around the house. My worry is that the data
on the magnetic strip can still be read.


That is only part of the problem, the other part is the
numbers embossed on the card. While the expiry date
would normally be obsolete, its often possible to guess
the new one that is on the card that replaced it.

So, while its easy enough to remove the magnetic stripe
and signature strip, its harder to get rid of the embossed
numbers and still have a useful bit of plastic.

What is the best way to destroy that data
without messing up the card for D-I-Y work.


Hard to say if you dont say what you use them for.

Does a domestic microwave detroy data on a magnetic strip?


Nope.

I tried using some of those strong magnets taken from a hard
drive. I put one above and one below the bank card and then
slowly drew the magnets along the magnetic strip. Is this enough?


Normally, but its hard to be sure that the data cant be
extracted by someone who cares enough to go to the
trouble. The card isnt much use without the pin tho.

Is it better to do this relatively quickly or relatively slowly?


Doesnt matter.

ISTR something about vertical and horizontal magnetic polarization
and maybe this is something I have to deal with in case it makes the
magnetic data harder to destroy???


Its better to just remove the entire magnetic stripe.

Is it better to scratch the magnetic strip with a sharp point?


Sandpaper is better or run it against an abrasive wheel
or wire brush on an angle grinder. Bit risky finger wise tho.



Dave November 11th 05 08:18 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
Alistair Riddell wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Sammy wrote:

I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.



I had cause to test this recently with mag stripe cards we use at work.

A few wipes with a rare earth metal magnet from a hard drive will
usually do the trick.

It is probably a good idea to sandpaper off the mag stripe and signature
strip including card verification value. There is significantly more
information on the mag stripe than appears embossed on the card, but the
card itself may be potentially more useful to fraudsters than the
information in it.

I don't think a microwave oven would be a particularly good way of
erasing a magnetic strip but it would probably be a good way of ensuring
that any smart chip never functions again.


Is this a good idea if ID cards are introduced :-)

Dave


mike November 11th 05 10:58 PM

Destroying data on bank card
 
Not sure how you delete the information on them but I'm curious about
what you use them for??


Andrew Mawson November 11th 05 11:04 PM

Destroying data on bank card
 

"mike" wrote in message
oups.com...
Not sure how you delete the information on them but I'm curious

about
what you use them for??


I can positively confirm that you can erase them if they are in your
pocket when you have an mri scan !

AWEM



Arno Wagner November 11th 05 11:05 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Sammy wrote:
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.


What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.


The only way to be sure on the cheap is not to use the cards. Blank
cards are not that expensive.

Arno

Dave C. November 12th 05 01:37 AM

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wrote in message
ups.com...

Chris Bacon wrote:
Sammy wrote:
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.

What is the best way to destroy that data without messing up the card
for D-I-Y work.


Scrape it off with a sharp knife.

What do you use the card for, AAMOI?


They're good for mixing epoxy on, applying polyfilla, extra shims for
tile spacing. Lots of other uses too.

In addition to using old credit cards, buy a new deck of playing cards to
use for some of these purposes. You can use two or more at a time to
increase stiffness. We've done that in certain hobby building.

As Alex says, your pin or password are not on your card. Running a small dc
magnet should remagnitize the strip unreadable. Might take a good one, run
a magnet over it, and try it in a reader. I am betting it won't get read.

Dave C



[email protected] November 12th 05 12:14 PM

[OT?] Destroying data on bank card
 
In article 953df.536360$_o.495179@attbi_s71,
Sam Wormley wrote:
Sammy wrote:
I like to keep my old bank cards intact and use them for jobs around
the house. My worry is that the data on the magnetic strip can still
be read.


Bulk tape degausser works well, but, in my opinion, these cards
should be totally destroyed. You can get a small copper plate
for "jobs around the house".


This is a future business opportunity. There will come the
day, if it's not already here, when even the packaging of
food will be bugged.

Now, out of curiousity..what jobs does one use these cards
around the house?

/BAH


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