Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Many thanks,

Alan.

Alan Deane wrote:
I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Use CAT 5 inside plastic cable pipe.

alex


--
Alex Meaden
Technical Support Officer
Computing Service
University of Kent

In article ,
Alex writes:
Alan Deane wrote:
I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Use CAT 5 inside plastic cable pipe.

WAP with directional high-gain antenna, perhaps?
--
SAm.

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:22:28 GMT, "Alan Deane"
wrote:

Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Many thanks,

Alan.

I'm told that these people do external grade PE-sheathed CAT6 cable:-

www.wadsworth.co.uk

HTH -
--
Frank Erskine
Sunderland

In article ,
Alan Deane wrote:
Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Do you have mains power to the garage? If it's on the same phase as the
house, then this might work:

http://www.eazynetworks.co.uk/product.php?sku=00001

I put in a pair of these recently to get ethernet out to a barn which
saved me the hassle of running a catenarry wire and strapping cat5
to that...

Gordon

"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Alan Deane wrote:
Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I
use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Do you have mains power to the garage? If it's on the same phase as the
house, then this might work:

http://www.eazynetworks.co.uk/product.php?sku=00001

I put in a pair of these recently to get ethernet out to a barn which
saved me the hassle of running a catenarry wire and strapping cat5
to that...

Gordon

Gordon,

I like that idea, however I'm already sending X10 signals across the mains
to/from the garage as well, I don't know if the two systems would get along,
and 14mb/s is a bit on the slow side as I plan to use the PC in the garage
for "offsite" file storage amongst other things.
If I run CAT5 / CAT6 I can use gigabit network which is far better for
moving lots of data over!

Alan.

"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Alan Deane wrote:
Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I
use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Do you have mains power to the garage? If it's on the same phase as the
house, then this might work:

http://www.eazynetworks.co.uk/product.php?sku=00001

I put in a pair of these recently to get ethernet out to a barn which
saved me the hassle of running a catenarry wire and strapping cat5
to that...

Gordon

Hi Gordon,

Is this to just replace a point to point link, or can several be plugged in
and run concurrently
albeit at possibly a slower rate ?

Thanks,

Nick

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:40:29 +0000 (UTC), Frank Erskine
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:22:28 GMT, "Alan Deane"
wrote:

Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Many thanks,

Alan.

I'm told that these people do external grade PE-sheathed CAT6 cable:-

www.wadsworth.co.uk

In fact here's the page. It's Cat 5e actually...

http://www.wadsworth.co.uk/catalogue..._5e_Cable.html

--
Frank Erskine

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:22:28 GMT, "Alan Deane"
wrote:

Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Many thanks,

Alan.



Some small external antennas for the access points?

You can configure the access points as point to point mode and create
a separate wired network in the garage, or if for one device just add
the external antenna to the card.


--

..andy

In article ,
"Alan Deane" writes:
I plan to use the PC in the garage
for "offsite" file storage amongst other things.
If I run CAT5 / CAT6 I can use gigabit network which is far better for
moving lots of data over!

You'll need it wired, then. Nothing else is going to do the job.
--
SAm.

"Frank Erskine" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:40:29 +0000 (UTC), Frank Erskine
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:22:28 GMT, "Alan Deane"
wrote:

Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I
use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Many thanks,

Alan.

I'm told that these people do external grade PE-sheathed CAT6 cable:-

www.wadsworth.co.uk

In fact here's the page. It's Cat 5e actually...

http://www.wadsworth.co.uk/catalogue..._5e_Cable.html

--
Frank Erskine


Thanks, I've requested a price from them.

Alan.

Sam Nelson wrote:
In article ,
"Alan Deane" writes:
I plan to use the PC in the garage
for "offsite" file storage amongst other things.
If I run CAT5 / CAT6 I can use gigabit network which is far better for
moving lots of data over!

You'll need it wired, then. Nothing else is going to do the job.

Perhaps that's why he asked for wire?

MBQ

In article ,
Alan Deane wrote:

"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Alan Deane wrote:
Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I
use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Do you have mains power to the garage? If it's on the same phase as the
house, then this might work:

http://www.eazynetworks.co.uk/product.php?sku=00001

I put in a pair of these recently to get ethernet out to a barn which
saved me the hassle of running a catenarry wire and strapping cat5
to that...

Gordon

Gordon,

I like that idea, however I'm already sending X10 signals across the mains
to/from the garage as well, I don't know if the two systems would get along,
and 14mb/s is a bit on the slow side as I plan to use the PC in the garage
for "offsite" file storage amongst other things.
If I run CAT5 / CAT6 I can use gigabit network which is far better for
moving lots of data over!

Ah well, in that case, you want an OrthogonSystems Spectra unit. 300Mb/sec
aggregate bandwidth over a non line of sight radio link

However, since you probably can't afford a pair of those, (~$20K) personally,
I'd run cat5(e) down a bit of garden hose...

Actually, I'd just run ordinary cat5e.. It'll last 2 years underground.
When you take it up at each end, hang a loop down and file off the
underside of the insulation - that way, any moisture that does get into
the cable can escape before going up to the connector (in theory). You're
probably OK without it though - I've been dealing with some outdoor units
that pump 50 volts on top of the signal to power the remote radio units
and those corrode quickly when damp!

You might also want to look at how you are doing the backups - I use
rsync which only copies differences, and keep gigabytes offline and
updated overnight over relatively slow links,, but you might not have
the luxury of a nice *nix server set ...

Gordon

In article , Nick wrote:

"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Alan Deane wrote:
Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I
use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Do you have mains power to the garage? If it's on the same phase as the
house, then this might work:

http://www.eazynetworks.co.uk/product.php?sku=00001

I put in a pair of these recently to get ethernet out to a barn which
saved me the hassle of running a catenarry wire and strapping cat5
to that...

Gordon

Hi Gordon,

Is this to just replace a point to point link, or can several be plugged in
and run concurrently
albeit at possibly a slower rate ?

You can run lots of these together - just like a big old Ethernet
Hub. Point to point you get the full bandwidth, but when 2 or more
stations try to use it, you get colisions (a natural part of the Ethernet
CSMA-CD protocol) and performance suffers a little.

I don't have too many details - I've just used a pair which just plugged
in and worked - there is some Windoze management software avalable though.
There are also faster speed units by the looks of it, but I've absolutely
no idea how well they work!

Gordon

"Alan Deane" wrote in message
...

"Frank Erskine" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:40:29 +0000 (UTC), Frank Erskine
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:22:28 GMT, "Alan Deane"
wrote:

Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I
use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Many thanks,

Alan.

I'm told that these people do external grade PE-sheathed CAT6 cable:-

www.wadsworth.co.uk

In fact here's the page. It's Cat 5e actually...

http://www.wadsworth.co.uk/catalogue..._5e_Cable.html

--
Frank Erskine


Thanks, I've requested a price from them.

Alan.


£47.57 + VAT for a 305m (1000') roll. Not too bad then.
Black outer sheath is better for SWMBO friendlyness also!

"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Alan Deane wrote:

"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Alan Deane wrote:
Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I
use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Do you have mains power to the garage? If it's on the same phase as the
house, then this might work:

http://www.eazynetworks.co.uk/product.php?sku=00001

I put in a pair of these recently to get ethernet out to a barn which
saved me the hassle of running a catenarry wire and strapping cat5
to that...

Gordon

Gordon,

I like that idea, however I'm already sending X10 signals across the mains
to/from the garage as well, I don't know if the two systems would get
along,
and 14mb/s is a bit on the slow side as I plan to use the PC in the garage
for "offsite" file storage amongst other things.
If I run CAT5 / CAT6 I can use gigabit network which is far better for
moving lots of data over!

Ah well, in that case, you want an OrthogonSystems Spectra unit. 300Mb/sec
aggregate bandwidth over a non line of sight radio link

However, since you probably can't afford a pair of those, (~$20K)
personally,
I'd run cat5(e) down a bit of garden hose...

Actually, I'd just run ordinary cat5e.. It'll last 2 years underground.
When you take it up at each end, hang a loop down and file off the
underside of the insulation - that way, any moisture that does get into
the cable can escape before going up to the connector (in theory). You're
probably OK without it though - I've been dealing with some outdoor units
that pump 50 volts on top of the signal to power the remote radio units
and those corrode quickly when damp!

You might also want to look at how you are doing the backups - I use
rsync which only copies differences, and keep gigabytes offline and
updated overnight over relatively slow links,, but you might not have
the luxury of a nice *nix server set ...

Gordon

I have a large DLT tape autochanger to be attached to the PC in the garage,
coz it's too big to go into the house :-)
I have *lots* of data to keep backed up, and just don't trust disk enough to
keep it online only.

.....But I work in the data backup / storage industry so getting hold of
hardware / software is easy enough!

Alan.

I installed a CAT 6 network at home. The part outdoors went inside a PVC conduit cable.

"Alan Deane" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I
use "normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Many thanks,

Alan.


Don't give up on Wireless if you enjoy Whisky....

http://flakey.info/antenna/waveguide/

David

In article , asalcedo asalcedo.1xj68d@di
ybanter.com writes

Alan Deane Wrote:
Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from
the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage
and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I
use
"normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Many thanks,

Alan.

I installed a CAT 6 network at home. The part outdoors went inside a
PVC conduit cable.



Theres been a bit of CAT5 cable outside here exposed to the elements for
some 5 years now and it's still working fine, and another lump carries
the phone down to the shed and that was buried some 10 odd years ago and
is still fine

Perhaps they make it too well?.....
--
Tony Sayer

Alan Deane wrote:
"Gordon Henderson" wrote
Alan Deane wrote:
"Gordon Henderson" wrote
Alan Deane wrote:

You might also want to look at how you are doing the backups - I use
rsync which only copies differences, and keep gigabytes offline and
updated overnight over relatively slow links,, but you might not have
the luxury of a nice *nix server set ...

I have a large DLT tape autochanger to be attached to the PC in the garage,
coz it's too big to go into the house :-)

I hope it's climate controlled in there, there's no way i'd keep or
back up to DLT tapes in my damp garage ;-)

I have *lots* of data to keep backed up, and just don't trust disk enough to
keep it online only.

Disk space is (relatively) cheap as chips at the moment, our near line
storage is all on netapp. A tad cheaper than our EMC storage

....But I work in the data backup / storage industry so getting hold of
hardware / software is easy enough!

At home I backup to disk on a UPS protected PC. I could back up to my
Sun solaris mirrored box using samba, but that's just overkill ;-)

Cheers

Paul.

"vortex2" wrote in message
...

"Alan Deane" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I need to get network access into my garage which is about 40m from the
house. I've tried wireless but the signal is terrible in the garage and
typically only 2mb/s at best.
So CAT 5 it is. Does anyone know of an outdoor grade cable, or should I
use "normal" cable sheathed in garden hose or something?
Any other soultions people have used with success?

Many thanks,

Alan.


Don't give up on Wireless if you enjoy Whisky....

http://flakey.info/antenna/waveguide/

David


That is brilliant! I'll give it a try - I like home-brew solutions!

alan.