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Peter September 29th 05 02:15 PM

Where can I buy a blowtorch head that connects to a regular LP gas supply? i.e. not propane
 
I am looking for a supplier of a blowtorch head that is suitable for
connection to the low pressure gas mains as opposed to a propane tank.
Does anyone know of a supplier?

The3rd Earl Of Derby September 29th 05 02:27 PM

Peter wrote:
I am looking for a supplier of a blowtorch head that is suitable for
connection to the low pressure gas mains as opposed to a propane tank.
Does anyone know of a supplier?


you could try..
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/
Welders and accessories

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Bob Mannix September 29th 05 02:27 PM


"Peter" wrote in message
...
I am looking for a supplier of a blowtorch head that is suitable for
connection to the low pressure gas mains as opposed to a propane tank.
Does anyone know of a supplier?


Aren't "low pressure" and "blowtorch" mutually exclusive?


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Bob Mannix September 29th 05 02:39 PM


"Bob Mannix" wrote in message
...

"Peter" wrote in message
...
I am looking for a supplier of a blowtorch head that is suitable for
connection to the low pressure gas mains as opposed to a propane tank.
Does anyone know of a supplier?


Aren't "low pressure" and "blowtorch" mutually exclusive?


Assuming the OP didn't mean blowtorch but just some sort of torch, one can
get brazing torches which are suitable for NG or LPG from (eg):

http://www.flamefast.co.uk/heat-trea...r-torches.html


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Peter September 29th 05 04:25 PM

Assuming the OP didn't mean blowtorch but just some sort of torch, one can
get brazing torches which are suitable for NG or LPG from (eg):


Yes, my mistake, just a reasonably direction and hand held torch that
does not need an air supply tube and/or air pump. I am just looking
for something I can connect to a natural gas supply bench tap.

Thanks for the FlameFast link, the nearest they supply is the pencil
torch, however, it is produces a flame rather to fine for my needs.

Bob Mannix September 29th 05 04:36 PM


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Assuming the OP didn't mean blowtorch but just some sort of torch, one
can
get brazing torches which are suitable for NG or LPG from (eg):


Yes, my mistake, just a reasonably direction and hand held torch that
does not need an air supply tube and/or air pump. I am just looking
for something I can connect to a natural gas supply bench tap.

Thanks for the FlameFast link, the nearest they supply is the pencil
torch, however, it is produces a flame rather to fine for my needs.


Yes it's the no air requirement that gets you. LPG supplies are higher
pressure and can suck in enough air to work. To use NG you need pressured
air to produce the right mix to do anything. Most small lab- based brazing
set ups run off bench gas taps but have a compressed air supply as well. You
could buy a compressor of course but a propane cylinder may be better. If
you haven't got one, the cheapest way of getting one is to "liberate" one
from the nearest tip (assuming they have an area for dumping them) and then
go and get it refilled. That way you only pay for the refill. Naturally I
would never do this as, in theory, they belong to the tip operators and it
would be thieving but I have heard of it being done.


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Set Square September 29th 05 04:39 PM

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Peter wrote:

Assuming the OP didn't mean blowtorch but just some sort of torch,
one can get brazing torches which are suitable for NG or LPG from
(eg):


Yes, my mistake, just a reasonably direction and hand held torch that
does not need an air supply tube and/or air pump. I am just looking
for something I can connect to a natural gas supply bench tap.

Thanks for the FlameFast link, the nearest they supply is the pencil
torch, however, it is produces a flame rather to fine for my needs.


Bunsen burner?
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The3rd Earl Of Derby September 29th 05 04:39 PM

Peter wrote:
Assuming the OP didn't mean blowtorch but just some sort of torch,
one can get brazing torches which are suitable for NG or LPG from
(eg):


Yes, my mistake, just a reasonably direction and hand held torch that
does not need an air supply tube and/or air pump. I am just looking
for something I can connect to a natural gas supply bench tap.

Thanks for the FlameFast link, the nearest they supply is the pencil
torch, however, it is produces a flame rather to fine for my needs.


Hmmm! this might be what your looking for then?

http://www.bes.ltd.uk/nav_graf/frames_cat.htm
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[email protected] September 29th 05 05:02 PM


Bob Mannix wrote:
could buy a compressor of course but a propane cylinder may be better. If
you haven't got one, the cheapest way of getting one is to "liberate" one
from the nearest tip (assuming they have an area for dumping them) and then
go and get it refilled. That way you only pay for the refill. Naturally I
would never do this as, in theory, they belong to the tip operators and it
would be thieving but I have heard of it being done.


My local gas supplier almost refused to sell me a new cyclinder, saying
I could buy one from the local tip for a fiver. I didn't have time to
do that and managed to persuade him. He did warn me that cylinders
cannot be returned for re-filling unless they still have the plastic
cap.

MBQ


The3rd Earl Of Derby September 29th 05 05:08 PM

wrote:
Bob Mannix wrote:
could buy a compressor of course but a propane cylinder may be
better. If you haven't got one, the cheapest way of getting one is
to "liberate" one from the nearest tip (assuming they have an area
for dumping them) and then go and get it refilled. That way you only
pay for the refill. Naturally I would never do this as, in theory,
they belong to the tip operators and it would be thieving but I have
heard of it being done.


My local gas supplier almost refused to sell me a new cyclinder,
saying I could buy one from the local tip for a fiver. I didn't have
time to do that and managed to persuade him. He did warn me that
cylinders cannot be returned for re-filling unless they still have
the plastic cap.

MBQ


You can find the larger bottles anywhere, but try and find one thats 4.5 or
6.9 kilos and its like looking for gold dust.
I went to a local gas supplier and he charged me £10 deposite for the
bottle and £10 for the gas/Propane.

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Set Square September 29th 05 05:45 PM

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:

Peter wrote:
Assuming the OP didn't mean blowtorch but just some sort of torch,
one can get brazing torches which are suitable for NG or LPG from
(eg):


Yes, my mistake, just a reasonably direction and hand held torch that
does not need an air supply tube and/or air pump. I am just looking
for something I can connect to a natural gas supply bench tap.

Thanks for the FlameFast link, the nearest they supply is the pencil
torch, however, it is produces a flame rather to fine for my needs.


Hmmm! this might be what your looking for then?

http://www.bes.ltd.uk/nav_graf/frames_cat.htm



Are you going to give us a clue as to which item in the BES catalogue you're
referring?
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The3rd Earl Of Derby September 29th 05 06:01 PM

Set Square wrote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:

Peter wrote:
Assuming the OP didn't mean blowtorch but just some sort of torch,
one can get brazing torches which are suitable for NG or LPG from
(eg):

Yes, my mistake, just a reasonably direction and hand held torch
that does not need an air supply tube and/or air pump. I am just
looking for something I can connect to a natural gas supply bench
tap.

Thanks for the FlameFast link, the nearest they supply is the pencil
torch, however, it is produces a flame rather to fine for my needs.


Hmmm! this might be what your looking for then?

http://www.bes.ltd.uk/nav_graf/frames_cat.htm



Are you going to give us a clue as to which item in the BES catalogue
you're referring?


No, notice the question mark on the end of the response. :-)
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Peter September 29th 05 07:51 PM

Bunsen burner?

Well, yes, this is exactly the flame I want but I want something more
comfortable in the hand, more compact, and with a more convenient
flame control.

Peter September 29th 05 08:01 PM

No, notice the question mark on the end of the response. :-)

Ok my friend, stop teasing. What was it that you saw in the BES
catalogue?


Bob Mannix September 30th 05 08:32 AM


"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message
.uk...
wrote:
Bob Mannix wrote:
could buy a compressor of course but a propane cylinder may be
better. If you haven't got one, the cheapest way of getting one is
to "liberate" one from the nearest tip (assuming they have an area
for dumping them) and then go and get it refilled. That way you only
pay for the refill. Naturally I would never do this as, in theory,
they belong to the tip operators and it would be thieving but I have
heard of it being done.


My local gas supplier almost refused to sell me a new cyclinder,
saying I could buy one from the local tip for a fiver. I didn't have
time to do that and managed to persuade him. He did warn me that
cylinders cannot be returned for re-filling unless they still have
the plastic cap.

MBQ


You can find the larger bottles anywhere, but try and find one thats 4.5
or


Heh heh! Took three trips looking at the masses of big ones but there she
was, a single 4.5 (which was what I was after!)

Persevere.


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Bob Mannix September 30th 05 08:34 AM


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Bunsen burner?


Well, yes, this is exactly the flame I want but I want something more
comfortable in the hand, more compact, and with a more convenient
flame control.


We are getting dangerously close to DIY here (which will bring the safety
police down on us but is, at least, on-topic). Cut and shut bunsen burner?


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Andy Dingley September 30th 05 10:54 PM

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:15:38 +0100, Peter
wrote:

I am looking for a supplier of a blowtorch head that is suitable for
connection to the low pressure gas mains as opposed to a propane tank.


Go for propane. Although you can get natural gas torches, and you can
ever get natural draught natural gas torches that don't need an air
blower, they're a pretty pathetic thing to try and use.

Propane is cheap and effective. Oxy-propane is even more fun.

Andy Dingley September 30th 05 10:56 PM

On 29 Sep 2005 09:02:53 -0700, wrote:

My local gas supplier almost refused to sell me a new cyclinder, saying
I could buy one from the local tip for a fiver.


Only £2 from my local tip. Many of them are still half-full too, if you
hunt. We run the kiln and smithing forge entirely on dump-bought
propane, then turn the empties into woodstoves.


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