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david lang September 27th 05 09:05 AM

Property Ladder
 
Hi All

Anyone watch this last night?

Couple of no brainer idiots restoring a house in Richmond who managed to go
over budget by about £60K. Unusable bathroom, pointless downstairs loo etc.
Spent £20K on a kitchen when their budget was £4.5K.

I suppose it wouldn't make good telly if they listened to Sarah Beaney and
kept to a sensible budget, but these losers needed to sell for £460K just to
break even.

I wonder if they will ever make a follow up show so we can find out what
happened in the end? Did they ever sell?

My fav was the two sisters in Poole who tarted up a 1930's house so it
looked like a Turkish brothel.

Dave





Séan Connolly September 27th 05 09:14 AM

I suppose it wouldn't make good telly if they listened to Sarah Beaney and
kept to a sensible budget, but these losers needed to sell for £460K just
to break even.


I'd kill for a professionals advice in the renovation we're doing at the
moment, and I'd make damn sure I listened to it as well!

I wonder if they will ever make a follow up show so we can find out what
happened in the end? Did they ever sell?


The do a follow up series called Property Ladder Revisited. Its actually
quite amazing how so many of them completely f**k up the 1st development,
sell it on at a decent profit and manage in later developments to actually
get it right !



Matt September 27th 05 09:53 AM

"david lang" wrote:

Hi All

Anyone watch this last night?


No, because it wasn't on.


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[email protected] September 27th 05 10:23 AM

Unusable bathroom, pointless downstairs loo etc.
I didn't see it, but a renovation I am going to do I will be "doing"
the bathroom and maybe a downstairs loo. Can you tell me what was the
problem with these rooms, so that I might not repeat their mistakes ?
Cheers,
Simon.


Richard Conway September 27th 05 10:42 AM

Séan Connolly wrote:
I suppose it wouldn't make good telly if they listened to Sarah Beaney and
kept to a sensible budget, but these losers needed to sell for £460K just
to break even.



I'd kill for a professionals advice in the renovation we're doing at the
moment, and I'd make damn sure I listened to it as well!


I wonder if they will ever make a follow up show so we can find out what
happened in the end? Did they ever sell?



The do a follow up series called Property Ladder Revisited. Its actually
quite amazing how so many of them completely f**k up the 1st development,
sell it on at a decent profit and manage in later developments to actually
get it right !


I think that is mostly down to the fact that while the majority of the
developments featured on the show took place, the housming market rose a
lot so they would have made money if they'd done no work at all (as
Beaney often reminds them!)

Séan Connolly September 27th 05 11:40 AM

Anyone watch this last night?

No, because it wasn't on.


yeah it was, Discovery H&L



Richard Conway September 27th 05 12:09 PM

Séan Connolly wrote:
Anyone watch this last night?


No, because it wasn't on.



yeah it was, Discovery H&L


Whilst channel hopping the other day, me and the missus came to the
conclusion that it won't be long before, at any time of the day, on some
channel or other, you will be able to find Delia Smith cooking any
recipe ever concocted.

Or maybe its already happened!

Séan Connolly September 27th 05 01:39 PM

I think that is mostly down to the fact that while the majority of the
developments featured on the show took place, the housming market rose a
lot so they would have made money if they'd done no work at all (as Beaney
often reminds them!)


Sure (which is always rather amusing when you think about it). I saw one
where the guy was totally clueless, started messing about with the party
walls without permission, flooded his neighbours flat, generally couldn't
score in a brothel etc etc. In revisited program he ended up as a project
manager for other peoples developments! Beggars belief really...



Séan Connolly September 27th 05 01:42 PM

Whilst channel hopping the other day, me and the missus came to the
conclusion that it won't be long before, at any time of the day, on some
channel or other, you will be able to find Delia Smith cooking any recipe
ever concocted.



Well if they can manage to synchronise adverts over god knows how many
channels then I can't see why not!



Peter Taylor September 27th 05 01:56 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Unusable bathroom, pointless downstairs loo etc.

I didn't see it, but a renovation I am going to do I will be "doing"
the bathroom and maybe a downstairs loo. Can you tell me what was the
problem with these rooms, so that I might not repeat their mistakes ?
Cheers,
Simon.


Simon, the problem was that these people were given good sensible advice
from someone who knows what they are doing, but they decided to ignore it.
My advice to you, as a professional myself, is to find your own Chartered
Architect or Building Surveyor who knows what they are doing, and make sure
you follow their advice. It may cost a few hundred bucks up front, but it
could save you thousands.

Peter


[email protected] September 27th 05 02:18 PM

Simon, the problem was that these people were given good sensible advice
from someone who knows what they are doing, but they decided to ignore it.
My advice to you, as a professional myself, is to find your own Chartered
Architect or Building Surveyor who knows what they are doing, and make sure
you follow their advice. It may cost a few hundred bucks up front, but it
could save you thousands.

I will be using an architect, but above response sounds a bit uppity
(!)
Can anyone tell me what was wrong with the rooms in question ?
Simon.


david lang September 27th 05 05:34 PM

wrote:
Unusable bathroom, pointless downstairs loo etc.

I didn't see it, but a renovation I am going to do I will be "doing"
the bathroom and maybe a downstairs loo. Can you tell me what was the
problem with these rooms, so that I might not repeat their mistakes ?



Hi Simon

The upstairs bathroom was between two bedrooms with shared access, but was
simply too small. They were going to put a Japanese style bath in, but even
that was too big, so they ended up with a smaller one still. It wasn't big
enough to lay in, but too high to easily step into for a shower.

The downstairs loo used up a lot of space and made the kitchen just too
small for a table & chairs.

Dave



Peter Taylor September 27th 05 06:03 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Simon, the problem was that these people were given good sensible advice
from someone who knows what they are doing, but they decided to ignore
it.
My advice to you, as a professional myself, is to find your own Chartered
Architect or Building Surveyor who knows what they are doing, and make
sure
you follow their advice. It may cost a few hundred bucks up front, but
it
could save you thousands.

I will be using an architect, but above response sounds a bit uppity
(!)


Take it however you like, it was meant in good faith. I'm glad to see
you're taking professional advice - I was concerned about that, because many
of your questions here recently have indicated that you are taking on a
project yourself which is, shall I say, maybe a little too complicated for
your current knowledge (e.g. Party Wall procedures, Building Regs
applications etc). Anyway, good luck to you.

Peter


[email protected] September 27th 05 09:00 PM


david lang wrote:
Hi All

Anyone watch this last night?

Couple of no brainer idiots restoring a house in Richmond who managed to =

go
over budget by about =A360K. Unusable bathroom, pointless downstairs loo=

etc.
Spent =A320K on a kitchen when their budget was =A34.5K.

I suppose it wouldn't make good telly if they listened to Sarah Beaney and
kept to a sensible budget, but these losers needed to sell for =A3460K ju=

st to
break even.

I wonder if they will ever make a follow up show so we can find out what
happened in the end? Did they ever sell?

My fav was the two sisters in Poole who tarted up a 1930's house so it
looked like a Turkish brothel.

Dave


Saw this one the first time around. The lady just thought she was some
hot **** designer and probably tried to use the program as a platform
to launch her career as one. Husband obviously had enough money to let
her play with and I think their claim that they'd already been offered
1/2 million was total tosh.


david lang September 28th 05 08:20 AM

Last nights episode was a treat to watch. A couple who listened to Sarah,
keep very close to budget, didn't go overboard with their personal foibles
and renovated to suit the local market.

Sold the house on day one & made £14K!

I thought it was better telly that some of the nutters.

Dave



[email protected] September 28th 05 10:01 AM

I will be using an architect, but above response sounds a bit uppity
(!)


Take it however you like, it was meant in good faith


Peter, sorry for the tone ! It is too complicated for my current
knowledge, which is why I am asking questions. I got an architect
because I realised he would be double-checking
my ideas. However, as others have said, its not rocket science !


Dave Plowman (News) September 28th 05 10:38 AM

In article ,
Séan Connolly mrcATseanDASHconnollyDOTcoDOTuk wrote:
Sure (which is always rather amusing when you think about it). I saw
one where the guy was totally clueless, started messing about with the
party walls without permission, flooded his neighbours flat, generally
couldn't score in a brothel etc etc. In revisited program he ended up
as a project manager for other peoples developments! Beggars belief
really...


Did they give his name? Drivel exposed?

--
*A nest isn't empty until all their stuff is out of the attic

Dave Plowman London SW
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