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yitzak August 30th 05 03:35 PM

Acrylic paint
 
Having some new sash windows being put in - the fitter is priming them
with an acrylic primer. Never heard of this paint which drys very fast
- hence the interest.

I'm interested if it exists; an equivalent Acrylic top coat similar in
ware and durabilty to gloss.

I will paint the rest of the windows - exposed wood in undercoat &
gloss. But would like to use a quick drying paint to paint the box
frame where the slash windows slide so the window can be closed
a.s.a.p. Must be completely dry before I slide windows over freshly
painted wood. Gloss takes 16hrs for this


Frank Erskine August 30th 05 03:37 PM

On 30 Aug 2005 07:35:09 -0700, "yitzak"
wrote:

Having some new sash windows being put in - the fitter is priming them
with an acrylic primer. Never heard of this paint which drys very fast
- hence the interest.

I'm interested if it exists; an equivalent Acrylic top coat similar in
ware and durabilty to gloss.

I will paint the rest of the windows - exposed wood in undercoat &
gloss. But would like to use a quick drying paint to paint the box
frame where the slash windows slide so the window can be closed
a.s.a.p. Must be completely dry before I slide windows over freshly
painted wood. Gloss takes 16hrs for this


I was once told by an old joiner that it's traditional to use only
primer for sash window "runners".

--
Frank Erskine

yitzak August 30th 05 04:44 PM

See your point - not sticking - but esp near the bottom you need a
wipeable surface - otherwise primer goes grey with dust.


Peter Johnson August 30th 05 06:29 PM

On 30 Aug 2005 07:35:09 -0700, "yitzak"
wrote:

Having some new sash windows being put in - the fitter is priming them
with an acrylic primer. Never heard of this paint which drys very fast
- hence the interest.

I'm interested if it exists; an equivalent Acrylic top coat similar in
ware and durabilty to gloss.

Acrylic gloss is only fit for interior use at present. Decorators like
the acrylic undercoat (or often acrylic primer undercoat) because it
means they can get two coats (undercoat and gloss) applied in a day
and the gloss can dry overnight.

RedOnRed August 30th 05 09:13 PM


"yitzak" wrote in message
oups.com...
Having some new sash windows being put in - the fitter is priming them
with an acrylic primer. Never heard of this paint which drys very fast
- hence the interest.

I'm interested if it exists; an equivalent Acrylic top coat similar in
ware and durabilty to gloss.

I will paint the rest of the windows - exposed wood in undercoat &
gloss. But would like to use a quick drying paint to paint the box
frame where the slash windows slide so the window can be closed
a.s.a.p. Must be completely dry before I slide windows over freshly
painted wood. Gloss takes 16hrs for this


Just pop down to your local decorators merchant. Not your local large DIY
B&Q place.

If it's any thing like our local one it will have every brand of paint,
stain etc on earth - no matter how obscure.



Stuart Noble August 31st 05 11:56 AM

Peter Johnson wrote:

Acrylic gloss is only fit for interior use at present. Decorators like
the acrylic undercoat (or often acrylic primer undercoat) because it
means they can get two coats (undercoat and gloss) applied in a day
and the gloss can dry overnight.


Most of the sheds do acrylic gloss branded as Stay White or somesuch.
A nasty synthetic shine, not unlike a plastic bag, with virtually zero
resistance to wear and bad adhesion to surfaces that aren't perfect.
However, it doesn't yellow with age and looks fine from a distance so is
ideal for stuff you need a ladder to get to.
I use acrylic undercoat all the time but usually topcoat with oil based
gloss. The only way you can tell the products apart on the shelf now is
the "quick drying" label, oh and the price.

newman September 15th 06 05:08 PM

Acrylic paint
 
yitzak wrote:

Having some new sash windows being put in - the fitter is priming them
with an acrylic primer. Never heard of this paint which drys very fast
- hence the interest.

I'm interested if it exists; an equivalent Acrylic top coat similar in
ware and durabilty to gloss.

I will paint the rest of the windows - exposed wood in undercoat &
gloss. But would like to use a quick drying paint to paint the box
frame where the slash windows slide so the window can be closed
a.s.a.p. Must be completely dry before I slide windows over freshly
painted wood. Gloss takes 16hrs for this


I am considering using white acrylic eggshell for interior doors and
staircase.
Are there any advantages or disadvantages over an oil based eggshell
paint?

Regards

Christian McArdle September 15th 06 05:17 PM

Acrylic paint
 
I am considering using white acrylic eggshell for interior doors and
staircase.
Are there any advantages or disadvantages over an oil based eggshell
paint?


Advantages (of water based acrylic):

Easier to paint (opinions do vary, however)
Environmentally friendlier
Does not yellow with age
Does not stink
Fewer nasty chemicals

Disadvantages:

Less hard wearing
Less easy to clean

I always use water based acrylic myself, as the environmental aspect is of
high importance to me.

Christian.



Scabbydug September 15th 06 06:48 PM

Acrylic paint
 

"newman" wrote in message
...
yitzak wrote:

Having some new sash windows being put in - the fitter is priming them
with an acrylic primer. Never heard of this paint which drys very fast
- hence the interest.

I'm interested if it exists; an equivalent Acrylic top coat similar in
ware and durabilty to gloss.

I will paint the rest of the windows - exposed wood in undercoat &
gloss. But would like to use a quick drying paint to paint the box
frame where the slash windows slide so the window can be closed
a.s.a.p. Must be completely dry before I slide windows over freshly
painted wood. Gloss takes 16hrs for this


I am considering using white acrylic eggshell for interior doors and
staircase.
Are there any advantages or disadvantages over an oil based eggshell
paint?


I heard somewhere that within a few years all paint will be water based,
even the likes of hammerite.



Lobster September 15th 06 07:06 PM

Acrylic paint
 
Christian McArdle wrote:
I am considering using white acrylic eggshell for interior doors and
staircase.
Are there any advantages or disadvantages over an oil based eggshell
paint?


Advantages (of water based acrylic):

Easier to paint (opinions do vary, however)
Environmentally friendlier
Does not yellow with age
Does not stink
Fewer nasty chemicals

Disadvantages:

Less hard wearing
Less easy to clean

I always use water based acrylic myself, as the environmental aspect is of
high importance to me.


I like it too (and TBH I'm not particularly fussed about the eco-aspect
I'm afraid). I'd add:

Advantages:
Easier to clean up equipment/spills/overpainting and easier to stay
clean while painting!
Dries very quickly

Disadvantages:
Pretty expensive compared with oil-based.

David

Stuart Noble September 15th 06 07:17 PM

Acrylic paint
 
Scabbydug wrote:
"newman" wrote in message
...
yitzak wrote:
Having some new sash windows being put in - the fitter is priming them
with an acrylic primer. Never heard of this paint which drys very fast
- hence the interest.

I'm interested if it exists; an equivalent Acrylic top coat similar in
ware and durabilty to gloss.

I will paint the rest of the windows - exposed wood in undercoat &
gloss. But would like to use a quick drying paint to paint the box
frame where the slash windows slide so the window can be closed
a.s.a.p. Must be completely dry before I slide windows over freshly
painted wood. Gloss takes 16hrs for this

I am considering using white acrylic eggshell for interior doors and
staircase.
Are there any advantages or disadvantages over an oil based eggshell
paint?


I heard somewhere that within a few years all paint will be water based,
even the likes of hammerite.



Emulsion technology has a long way to go before they'll be a match for
solvent based paints. The resins exist but they need a controlled
environment to cure, restricting their use mainly to industry.
IIRC some car manufacturers use water based paints.

Guy King September 15th 06 07:44 PM

Acrylic paint
 
The message
from "Christian McArdle" contains
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Advantages (of water based acrylic):


Easier to paint (opinions do vary, however)
Environmentally friendlier
Does not yellow with age
Does not stink
Fewer nasty chemicals


Dries quicker, too. A lot quicker.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.


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