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In the garage is a shiny new white bathroom suite & new
power shower unit waiting yours truly to bodge into place.

But - tiling.

The bathroom is currently fully tiled with the same orrible
beige tiles that were in place when we bought the house 16
years ago.
There are 2 external walls, and 2 internal flimsy
plasterboard walls.
Removing the old tiles from the external walls, whilst
being a not to easy nor pleasant job, is doable. Removing
the tiles from the 2 internal walls is likely, I think, to
result in major structural mayhem.

So, is tiling over old tiles a reasonable proposition?
Is it worth removing the tiles from the external walls or
just over-tile these as well?

Is is preferable to remove the old suite and re-tile then
replace, or install suite and tile afterwards?

Recommendations for attractive but expensive gizzmos will
be ignored, as I am currently *extremely* broke.


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Rope wrote:
In the garage is a shiny new white bathroom suite & new
power shower unit waiting yours truly to bodge into place.

But - tiling.

The bathroom is currently fully tiled with the same orrible
beige tiles that were in place when we bought the house 16
years ago.
There are 2 external walls, and 2 internal flimsy
plasterboard walls.
Removing the old tiles from the external walls, whilst
being a not to easy nor pleasant job, is doable. Removing
the tiles from the 2 internal walls is likely, I think, to
result in major structural mayhem.

So, is tiling over old tiles a reasonable proposition?
Is it worth removing the tiles from the external walls or
just over-tile these as well?

Is is preferable to remove the old suite and re-tile then
replace, or install suite and tile afterwards?

Recommendations for attractive but expensive gizzmos will
be ignored, as I am currently *extremely* broke.


This has been covered many a time on so people will say to you search the
archives in google. I'm a noob in here but thats the response you will get
methinks.


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Posted by Erik the Viking
http://www.thetiledoctor.com/howto/wallsinterior.cfm


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Rope wrote:

Removing the old tiles from the external walls, whilst
being a not to easy nor pleasant job, is doable. Removing
the tiles from the 2 internal walls is likely, I think, to
result in major structural mayhem.


Personally I hate tiled-over tiles, but that may be just me... it can
be, and is often, done though.

The 'structural mayhem' you describe is unlikely to be more than a need
to replace a couple of sheets of plasterboard, which isn't really a big
deal, especially if they are completely tiled over.

Is is preferable to remove the old suite and re-tile then
replace, or install suite and tile afterwards?


1. Take out the old suite
2. Remove the old tiles if you are going to - jut omit this step if you want
3. Fit new tiles

David
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Rope wrote:

So, is tiling over old tiles a reasonable proposition?


If they are well fixed, then give them a quick sand with some coarse
glass paper to make a key for the adhesive and tile away.

Is is preferable to remove the old suite and re-tile then
replace, or install suite and tile afterwards?


Remove old suite
Fit Bath
Tile
Fit loo and sink

That way to can have the tiles drain down onto the lip of the bath. It
should make getting a good seal with the silicone simpler.

Recommendations for attractive but expensive gizzmos will
be ignored, as I am currently *extremely* broke.


OK I will recommend two cheapish ones then: proper rubber faced grout
float - makes the job of grouting so quick and easy. Costs about a fiver.

Lithofin grout protector - paint it onto the grout after it drys to make
it non absorbent and repel water. Should keep it looking good for years.
Cost about 20 quid for a bottle that will do the whole room.

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John.

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John Rumm wrote:

Lithofin grout protector - paint it onto the grout after it drys to make
it non absorbent and repel water. Should keep it looking good for years.


That sounds like just what I need actually.
Now, what would be a good method of throuroughly cleaning old, badly
stained grout prior to applying this stuff? Steam cleaning?

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Lobster wrote:

That sounds like just what I need actually.
Now, what would be a good method of throuroughly cleaning old, badly
stained grout prior to applying this stuff? Steam cleaning?


I would guess the only really acceptable way to sort that would be to
rake it out, regrout, and protect it while clean. Otherwise there is a
danger you will just seal any dirt and discolouration into the grout.

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John.

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