Don't try this at home children
 

Having just discovered that I've cocked-up, I'll expose my error in the
hope that someone is saved from doing the same thing.
I'm just refitting the kitchen and set the carcass tops at the standard
height recommended by the supplier of the carcasses (Homebase).
Everything was fine until today when I installed the dishwasher (which
only just fitted under the worktop); as I was doing this a little light
glimmered between the ears - what about the flooring?
You'll have guessed by now - once the flooring is down it's not going to
be possible to get the dishwasher out!
I suppose I could remove the worktops, plumbing and hob so I can get to
the screws fixing the carcasses to the walls and then adjust all the
carcass legs, but my inclination at the moment is to leave it and deal
with it if the dishwasher fails before we move house - it's new so the
odds might be in my favour ;-)

On a related note: the Homebase carcasses are pretty poor quality and I
wouldn't recommend them; the doors and "luxury drawers" are excellent
though.

Dave

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Having just discovered that I've cocked-up, I'll expose my error in the
hope that someone is saved from doing the same thing.
I'm just refitting the kitchen and set the carcass tops at the standard
height recommended by the supplier of the carcasses (Homebase). Everything
was fine until today when I installed the dishwasher (which only just
fitted under the worktop); as I was doing this a little light glimmered
between the ears - what about the flooring?
You'll have guessed by now - once the flooring is down it's not going to
be possible to get the dishwasher out!
I suppose I could remove the worktops, plumbing and hob so I can get to
the screws fixing the carcasses to the walls and then adjust all the
carcass legs, but my inclination at the moment is to leave it and deal
with it if the dishwasher fails before we move house - it's new so the
odds might be in my favour ;-)

On a related note: the Homebase carcasses are pretty poor quality and I
wouldn't recommend them; the doors and "luxury drawers" are excellent
though.

Dave

You are not the first - I was called out to a friends DW, fortunatly it was
a programmer fault which I was able to change from the front:-) There was no
way the DW was coming out without destroying the worktop or the laminate
floor.

Peter

In article ,
Dave writes:
Having just discovered that I've cocked-up, I'll expose my error in the
hope that someone is saved from doing the same thing.
I'm just refitting the kitchen and set the carcass tops at the standard
height recommended by the supplier of the carcasses (Homebase).
Everything was fine until today when I installed the dishwasher (which
only just fitted under the worktop); as I was doing this a little light
glimmered between the ears - what about the flooring?
You'll have guessed by now - once the flooring is down it's not going to
be possible to get the dishwasher out!

When I do a kitchen, I put all the flooring down, wall to wall,
before the cabinets go in.

Perhaps if I was using some low grade plastic floor which I
didn't expect to last the life of the cabinets, then I would
fit it after the cabinets so it could easily be replaced.

--
Andrew Gabriel

Dave wrote:
Having just discovered that I've cocked-up, I'll expose my error in
the hope that someone is saved from doing the same thing.
I'm just refitting the kitchen and set the carcass tops at the
standard height recommended by the supplier of the carcasses
(Homebase). Everything was fine until today when I installed the
dishwasher (which only just fitted under the worktop); as I was doing
this a little light glimmered between the ears - what about the
flooring?
[snip]

Dont dishwashers have adjustable feet? mine has for uneven floors.
Same as fridges,washing machines, ect.

"ben" wrote in message
. uk...
Dave wrote:
Having just discovered that I've cocked-up, I'll expose my error in
the hope that someone is saved from doing the same thing.
I'm just refitting the kitchen and set the carcass tops at the
standard height recommended by the supplier of the carcasses
(Homebase). Everything was fine until today when I installed the
dishwasher (which only just fitted under the worktop); as I was doing
this a little light glimmered between the ears - what about the
flooring?
[snip]

Dont dishwashers have adjustable feet? mine has for uneven floors.
Same as fridges,washing machines, ect.


If dishwasher feet don't act as vibration absorbers cut the things off and
place a
a piece of very thick (abount 0.25") vinyl flooring under it.

Arthur

Dave wrote:

Everything was fine until today when I installed the dishwasher (which
only just fitted under the worktop); as I was doing this a little light
glimmered between the ears - what about the flooring?
You'll have guessed by now - once the flooring is down it's not going to
be possible to get the dishwasher out!


You could add a packing piece on top of the cabinets before you fit the
worktop...

--
Cheers,

John.

/================================================== ===============\
| Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk |
\================================================= ================/

Any chance that the appliance has a removeable worktop? My dishwasher has
and it saves 2-3cm of height if necessary. Or maybe it could just live
without the top panel of its case, if that's how it's made.

Dave wrote:
I suppose I could remove the worktops, plumbing and hob so I can get to
the screws fixing the carcasses to the walls and then adjust all the
carcass legs, but my inclination at the moment is to leave it and deal
with it if the dishwasher fails before we move house - it's new so the
odds might be in my favour ;-)

In my experience of making similar cock-ups, I think you're better off
doing the hard work to fix the problem now. Then at least once it's
done, you'll bask in the warm glow of satisfaction of a job done
properly, rather than suffer that nagging twinge of regret and doubt
every time you force the dishwasher door open.... :)

John Rumm wrote:
Dave wrote:

Everything was fine until today when I installed the dishwasher (which
only just fitted under the worktop); as I was doing this a little
light glimmered between the ears - what about the flooring?
You'll have guessed by now - once the flooring is down it's not going
to be possible to get the dishwasher out!



You could add a packing piece on top of the cabinets before you fit the
worktop...


An interesting idea but it would leave an awkward gap between the door
and the worksurface, also quite a lot of work to make it look good. I've
decided to bite the bullet and fix it properly!

Dave

rrh wrote:
Any chance that the appliance has a removeable worktop? My dishwasher has
and it saves 2-3cm of height if necessary. Or maybe it could just live
without the top panel of its case, if that's how it's made.



A good thought but unfortunately not, it's a s/s box.

Dave

Vaci wrote:
Dave wrote:

I suppose I could remove the worktops, plumbing and hob so I can get
to the screws fixing the carcasses to the walls and then adjust all
the carcass legs, but my inclination at the moment is to leave it and
deal with it if the dishwasher fails before we move house - it's new
so the odds might be in my favour ;-)


In my experience of making similar cock-ups, I think you're better off
doing the hard work to fix the problem now. Then at least once it's
done, you'll bask in the warm glow of satisfaction of a job done
properly, rather than suffer that nagging twinge of regret and doubt
every time you force the dishwasher door open.... :)

The door opens and looks fine it's just that once the flooring is down
it will be tough to get the D/W out. However, you've pricked my
conscience and told me what my inner self had nagged about all night, so
I've started to refit it all 10mm higher.
I wonder if there's a "smiley" for £$%^&*^&*&£*!! ;-)

Dave

Dave wrote:
Having just discovered that I've cocked-up, I'll expose my error in the
hope that someone is saved from doing the same thing.
I'm just refitting the kitchen and set the carcass tops at the standard
height recommended by the supplier of the carcasses (Homebase).
Everything was fine until today when I installed the dishwasher (which
only just fitted under the worktop); as I was doing this a little light
glimmered between the ears - what about the flooring?
You'll have guessed by now - once the flooring is down it's not going to
be possible to get the dishwasher out!

If It Was Me.
I'd be tempted to get enough spare flooring to replace the area in front of
the dishwasher several times.

ben wrote:

Dont dishwashers have adjustable feet? mine has for uneven floors.
Same as fridges,washing machines, ect.

Yes

I spent an entire evening/night chopping and re-plumbing the pipes that
were to run behind our new dishwasher/kitchen as there wasn't enough
space, only to find on fitting the dishwasher I had to wind the legs
down about 2 1/2" to bring the top level with the top of the units
either side which would have provided ample space for the pipes as they
were !

This also gives loads of room to get dishwasher out over 15mm flooring
lip should removal ever be required


--
http://gymratz.co.uk - Best Gym Equipment & Bodybuilding Supplements UK.
http://trade-price-supplements.co.uk - TRADE PRICED SUPPLEMENTS for ALL!
http://fitness-equipment-uk.com - UK's No.1 Fitness Equipment Suppliers.
http://gymratz.co.uk/hot-seat.htm - Live web-cam! (sometimes)

Dave wrote:

An interesting idea but it would leave an awkward gap between the door
and the worksurface, also quite a lot of work to make it look good. I've

Depends on how thick your flooring will be I guess. The doors usually
allow some adjustment up and down.

decided to bite the bullet and fix it properly!

Probably best ;-)

(having said that, the appliances in my kitchen fit under the worktop
with about an inch to spare - so even adding thicker flooring does not
make that much difference)

--
Cheers,

John.

/================================================== ===============\
| Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk |
\================================================= ================/

You'll have guessed by now - once the flooring is down it's not going to
be possible to get the dishwasher out!

My brother in law recently moved to a house where he inherited this problem
off the predecessors. I suppose it explained why they were willing to leave
the appliance behind.

In this case, it was the washing machine that failed and had been floor
tiled in. I believe they managed to get it out by some-how hack sawing the
legs off.

Dave wrote:
Having just discovered that I've cocked-up, I'll expose my error in the
hope that someone is saved from doing the same thing.
I'm just refitting the kitchen and set the carcass tops at the standard
height recommended by the supplier of the carcasses (Homebase).
Everything was fine until today when I installed the dishwasher (which
only just fitted under the worktop); as I was doing this a little light
glimmered between the ears - what about the flooring?
You'll have guessed by now - once the flooring is down it's not going to
be possible to get the dishwasher out!
I suppose I could remove the worktops, plumbing and hob so I can get to
the screws fixing the carcasses to the walls and then adjust all the
carcass legs, but my inclination at the moment is to leave it and deal
with it if the dishwasher fails before we move house - it's new so the
odds might be in my favour ;-)

On a related note: the Homebase carcasses are pretty poor quality and I
wouldn't recommend them; the doors and "luxury drawers" are excellent
though.

Dave

Well, I jacked everything up by 10mm, changed the plumbing and the hob
feed, and there's now about 10mm available for flooring. It took about 4
hours once I'd stopped moaning about what an awful job it was going to
be - not too bad really.

Dave