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"Dave Plowman (News)" writes: In article .com, wrote: I don't think this will matter, as it will be illegal for the electronic products containing lead etc to be sold in the EU - so if they want to continue selling products here they will have to change. Wonder why? I thought it was health and safety issues at the point of manufacture, not use? No, it's health and safety issues at the point of disposal. -- Andrew Gabriel |
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 21:21:49 GMT, raden wrote:
In message , MM writes On 1 Aug 2005 12:27:17 -0700, "Weatherlawyer" wrote: I don't think landfill is the problem but other more eurofriendly methods of recycling. If these things are put in incinerators they all produce harmful toxins that might easily reach the atmosphere. I rather think the general trend is a move away from landfill. And as for China, I think the move to more eco friendly ingredients would be a lifesaver there, as old computer parts are sent to China where illegal back street workshops maim (and even kill) hundreds if not thousands in the recovery of lead solder from pcb boards. One of the problems with pcb boards is the plethora of connections that need soldering. We should have a lot more solid state devices that can be snapped together without solder. Modern motherboards look like they've been designed by that "Shakespeare" group of monkeys who have taken time off from their rows of typewriters. When will a "motherboard" be 1 inch square, consisting largely of take off points for network, modem, printer, VDU etc, all moulded into, not soldered onto, the package housing? I think you have a lot to learn grasshopper So have motherboard designers. MM |
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 21:45:02 +0100, Chris Bacon
wrote: MM wrote: Chris Bacon wrote: Andrew Gabriel wrote: Chris Bacon writes: Chris McBrien wrote: ........ and aren't dental fillings made with a percentage of Mercury in them? Yes, they're a mercury/silver/tin/copper/zinc amalgam. There's been a "scare" about it for years. There was a Dispatches, or Horizon, or similar on this probably some 15 or more years ago. My recollection is that mercury release to the environment from crematoria chimneys is actually quite significant, at around 3g per person. That's why the flue is fitted with an expensive "scrubber" (ooh-er!). Apart from in Britain, of course... So there are no strictures? Emission of mercury vapour (etc.) is legitimate? *I think not*. I was referring to expensive scrubbers. MM |
In message , MM
writes On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 21:21:49 GMT, raden wrote: In message , MM writes On 1 Aug 2005 12:27:17 -0700, "Weatherlawyer" wrote: I don't think landfill is the problem but other more eurofriendly methods of recycling. If these things are put in incinerators they all produce harmful toxins that might easily reach the atmosphere. I rather think the general trend is a move away from landfill. And as for China, I think the move to more eco friendly ingredients would be a lifesaver there, as old computer parts are sent to China where illegal back street workshops maim (and even kill) hundreds if not thousands in the recovery of lead solder from pcb boards. One of the problems with pcb boards is the plethora of connections that need soldering. We should have a lot more solid state devices that can be snapped together without solder. Modern motherboards look like they've been designed by that "Shakespeare" group of monkeys who have taken time off from their rows of typewriters. When will a "motherboard" be 1 inch square, consisting largely of take off points for network, modem, printer, VDU etc, all moulded into, not soldered onto, the package housing? I think you have a lot to learn grasshopper So have motherboard designers. You said pcbs initially ... not motherboards -- geoff |
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