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Mr Fizzion July 27th 05 05:01 PM

Are these TRVs any good?
 
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...30518&ts=77832



Christian McArdle July 27th 05 05:07 PM

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...30518&ts=77832

Personaly, I think TRVs are one of the few plumbing items I think it is
worth buying a brand name for.

Christian.



Doctor Drivel July 27th 05 05:18 PM


"Mr Fizzion" wrote in message
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http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...30518&ts=77832



No. Buy Danfoss at http://www.bes.org.uk Cheap enough there.


Jim Scott July 27th 05 05:34 PM

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:18:23 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Mr Fizzion" wrote in message
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http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...30518&ts=77832



No. Buy Danfoss at http://www.bes.org.uk Cheap enough there.


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Alex July 27th 05 05:37 PM

Jim Scott wrote:
No. Buy Danfoss at http://www.bes.org.uk Cheap enough there.



I cannot get that page to render correctly in either Ffox or IE


It uses an evil Java applet with a broken font...

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Christian McArdle July 27th 05 05:45 PM

No. Buy Danfoss at http://www.bes.org.uk Cheap enough there.

I cannot get that page to render correctly in either Ffox or IE


He meant http://www.bes.ltd.uk.

Christian.



r.p.mcmurphy July 27th 05 06:52 PM


"Mr Fizzion" wrote in message
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http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...30518&ts=77832



no,ivehadseveralfail.buyabrandname.

steve



woodglass July 27th 05 07:07 PM

I'd be cautious about buying any 'Reversible' TRV's from Screwfix.
I bought 10 from them (they don't appear to sell the type I bought any more,
& I can't remember the manufacturer)
I ended up having to reverse more than half of them - what a pain in the
a**e !!!.

CG...



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Andy Hall July 27th 05 07:55 PM

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:01:57 +0100, Mr Fizzion
wrote:

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...30518&ts=77832


Cheap TRVs are a false economy. Better choices are Invensys TRV4,
Pegler Terrier or Danfoss.



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Set Square July 27th 05 08:13 PM

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Alex wrote:

Jim Scott wrote:
No. Buy Danfoss at http://www.bes.org.uk Cheap enough there.



I cannot get that page to render correctly in either Ffox or IE


It uses an evil Java applet with a broken font...

alex



Try www.bes.ltd.uk

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Dave Plowman (News) July 27th 05 09:15 PM

In article ,
Christian McArdle wrote:
Personaly, I think TRVs are one of the few plumbing items I think it is
worth buying a brand name for.


Yup. I think you gets what you pay for. I've had Wicks and Homebase own
brands fail after about 5 years, but the current Drayton ones have passed
that deadline and still working fine.

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John Rumm July 28th 05 04:01 AM

Jim Scott wrote:

No. Buy Danfoss at http://www.bes.org.uk Cheap enough there.



I cannot get that page to render correctly in either Ffox or IE


That's because the plonker always posts the wrong url ;-)

http://www.bes.co.uk works.

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O.B. July 28th 05 10:48 AM

My view too. You don't want the hassle of draining down the system
again because cheapo TRV has failed.
I've foundt he Pegler ones SF sell ( Item 23130) are good.


Ben Willcox July 28th 05 11:16 AM

O.B. wrote:
My view too. You don't want the hassle of draining down the system
again because cheapo TRV has failed.


Hi Guys, interesting thread, I didn't know that there was such a
variation in quality on TRVs and have always just used cheap 5 quid
jobs. Just wondering what you all mean when you say they fail - I
understood that they all have a limited lifespan something do to with
the wax capsule or something, and therefore the heads will need to be
replaced after a number of years.
Is this what you're referring to? I don't get it as surely the heads
just unscrew and can be replaced without draining down? Or do the valves
fail too?

Cheers,
Ben.

Christian McArdle July 28th 05 11:37 AM

Is this what you're referring to? I don't get it as surely the heads
just unscrew and can be replaced without draining down? Or do the valves
fail too?


Both parts fail, although the head usually goes first. With a branded valve,
you're more likely to find a compatible replacement head in 10 years time,
than you are in 5 years time for some unbranded make.

Christian.



Andy Hall July 28th 05 12:26 PM

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:16:35 +0100, Ben Willcox
wrote:

O.B. wrote:
My view too. You don't want the hassle of draining down the system
again because cheapo TRV has failed.


Hi Guys, interesting thread, I didn't know that there was such a
variation in quality on TRVs and have always just used cheap 5 quid
jobs. Just wondering what you all mean when you say they fail - I
understood that they all have a limited lifespan something do to with
the wax capsule or something, and therefore the heads will need to be
replaced after a number of years.
Is this what you're referring to? I don't get it as surely the heads
just unscrew and can be replaced without draining down? Or do the valves
fail too?

Cheers,
Ben.



Various failure mechanisms. Typical ones:

- valve body mechanism jams because of poor manufacturing tolerance
coupled with crud in the system.

- seal on valve begins to leak

- wax capsule fails and the valve locks on, off or simply has no
thermostatic action.


If you take a product like the Invensys TRV4, it has been available
for at least 25 years and the capsules last a good 7-10 years at
least. I have some that are 15 years old. You can buy the
replacement heads and swap them out. often it's cheaper to buy the
complete valve and not bother replacing the base.

On the cheap ones, failure usually means changing the whole valve,
base and all because often they have a proprietary fitting.





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Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk July 28th 05 04:38 PM

Andy Hall wrote:

Cheap TRVs are a false economy. Better choices are Invensys TRV4,
Pegler Terrier or Danfoss.


Most of the cheapies I have found tend to give a high pitched squeeling
on the last bit of the close. in-audible to the slightly older
generation, but a PITA as it can last several minutes.

The ones on our very old and being replaced radiators are "Myson" look
as old as the rads themselves, but definately in excess of 10 years, and
worked exceptionally when the old system was in operation.


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