glass fibre wallpaper/lining
 

Hi guys,

maybe more of a translation question.

We've got walls in the kitchen with a not so smooth surface. An ideal
way of covering it would be what we call in French "toile de verre", a
kind of thick and tough possibly embossed wall paper, solid, durable,
fire proof, that you can paint over, that would hide the defects and
provide with a convenient washable surface.

I can't find the English word for it, and I'm not too sure whether they
can be found easily in B&Q's. As I'm currently in France for a few
days, I was wondering if it was worth bringing some back in my luggage.

So, my question is: how is it called in English? And can it be found in
Edinburgh DIY or wall covering stores?

Many thanks in advance,
Stephane.

Stephane wrote:
Hi guys,

maybe more of a translation question.

We've got walls in the kitchen with a not so smooth surface. An ideal
way of covering it would be what we call in French "toile de verre", a
kind of thick and tough possibly embossed wall paper, solid, durable,
fire proof, that you can paint over, that would hide the defects and
provide with a convenient washable surface.

I can't find the English word for it, and I'm not too sure whether
they can be found easily in B&Q's. As I'm currently in France for a
few days, I was wondering if it was worth bringing some back in my
luggage.

So, my question is: how is it called in English? And can it be found
in Edinburgh DIY or wall covering stores?

Many thanks in advance,
Stephane.

the word your looking for is..."glass canvas", in English

"ben" wrote
[...]
We've got walls in the kitchen with a not so smooth surface. An ideal
way of covering it would be what we call in French "toile de verre", a
kind of thick and tough possibly embossed wall paper, solid, durable,
fire proof, that you can paint over, that would hide the defects and
provide with a convenient washable surface.

[...]
the word your looking for is..."glass canvas", in English

Thanks Ben,

I'm not too sure we're speaking of the same thing, google was not very
helpful on "glass canvas". What I have in mind is really just like
wallpaper.
Except that instead of being made of wood fibre paper, it's made
of glass fibre paper. It's sold in rolls just like wallpaper, except it is
generally 1m wide instead of the 53cm more comonly found in wall papers.

Is it something one can find at B&Q/Wickes/Homebase?

Thanks,
Stephane

Stephane wrote:
We've got walls in the kitchen with a not so smooth surface. An ideal
way of covering it would be what we call in French "toile de verre", a
kind of thick and tough possibly embossed wall paper, solid, durable,
fire proof, that you can paint over, that would hide the defects and
provide with a convenient washable surface.
So, my question is: how is it called in English? And can it be found in
Edinburgh DIY or wall covering stores?

Gray's of George Street. According to news:ed.general they sell
*everything* that other shops don't :-)

Owain

Stephane Chazelas wrote:
"ben" wrote
[...]
We've got walls in the kitchen with a not so smooth surface. An
ideal way of covering it would be what we call in French "toile de
verre", a kind of thick and tough possibly embossed wall paper,
solid, durable, fire proof, that you can paint over, that would
hide the defects and provide with a convenient washable surface.

[...]
the word your looking for is..."glass canvas", in English

Thanks Ben,

I'm not too sure we're speaking of the same thing, google was not very
helpful on "glass canvas". What I have in mind is really just like
wallpaper.
Except that instead of being made of wood fibre paper, it's made
of glass fibre paper. It's sold in rolls just like wallpaper, except
it is generally 1m wide instead of the 53cm more comonly found in
wall papers.

Is it something one can find at B&Q/Wickes/Homebase?

Thanks,
Stephane

I doubt you would find a supplier of that type in the UK and if you do it
would probably very exspensive.

I translated the french wording here...
http://www.freetranslation.com/

In article , "ben"
says...
Stephane wrote:
Hi guys,

maybe more of a translation question.

We've got walls in the kitchen with a not so smooth surface. An ideal
way of covering it would be what we call in French "toile de verre", a
kind of thick and tough possibly embossed wall paper, solid, durable,
fire proof, that you can paint over, that would hide the defects and
provide with a convenient washable surface.

I can't find the English word for it, and I'm not too sure whether
they can be found easily in B&Q's. As I'm currently in France for a
few days, I was wondering if it was worth bringing some back in my
luggage.

So, my question is: how is it called in English? And can it be found
in Edinburgh DIY or wall covering stores?

Many thanks in advance,
Stephane.

the word your looking for is..."glass canvas", in English

That's just a literal translation, the generic term for this cladding
is FRP, Glasbord is one of the trade names.

In article , "Rob
Morley" says...
In article , "ben"
says...
Stephane wrote:
Hi guys,

maybe more of a translation question.

We've got walls in the kitchen with a not so smooth surface. An ideal
way of covering it would be what we call in French "toile de verre", a
kind of thick and tough possibly embossed wall paper, solid, durable,
fire proof, that you can paint over, that would hide the defects and
provide with a convenient washable surface.

I can't find the English word for it, and I'm not too sure whether
they can be found easily in B&Q's. As I'm currently in France for a
few days, I was wondering if it was worth bringing some back in my
luggage.

So, my question is: how is it called in English? And can it be found
in Edinburgh DIY or wall covering stores?

Many thanks in advance,
Stephane.

the word your looking for is..."glass canvas", in English

That's just a literal translation, the generic term for this cladding
is FRP, Glasbord is one of the trade names.

OK, scrap that - the OP is actually talking about a textile, not a
composite panel.

On 25 Jul 2005 03:26:48 -0700, "Stephane"
wrote:

Hi guys,

maybe more of a translation question.

We've got walls in the kitchen with a not so smooth surface. An ideal
way of covering it would be what we call in French "toile de verre", a
kind of thick and tough possibly embossed wall paper, solid, durable,
fire proof, that you can paint over, that would hide the defects and
provide with a convenient washable surface.

I can't find the English word for it, and I'm not too sure whether they
can be found easily in B&Q's. As I'm currently in France for a few
days, I was wondering if it was worth bringing some back in my luggage.

So, my question is: how is it called in English? And can it be found in
Edinburgh DIY or wall covering stores?

Many thanks in advance,
Stephane.

I have seen this in France and elsewhere in Europe such as Sweden, but
never in the UK.

I would bring some back..





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I have never seen glass fibre wallpaper. However, I have seen 1m wide glass
fibre geotextile, for putting under gravel in driveways. It could be used as
a wallpaper I
suppose, although it does not have a pattern as such, just a swirly random
fibrous
appearance. I bought some in Wickes, near the masonry and cement area.

I would have though anaglypta would be better for your purposes covers a
multitude
of sins, many attractive patterns.

Andy.

Stephane Chazelas wrote:
"ben" wrote
[...]
We've got walls in the kitchen with a not so smooth surface. An ideal
way of covering it would be what we call in French "toile de verre", a
kind of thick and tough possibly embossed wall paper, solid, durable,
fire proof, that you can paint over, that would hide the defects and
provide with a convenient washable surface.

[...]
the word your looking for is..."glass canvas", in English

Thanks Ben,

I'm not too sure we're speaking of the same thing, google was not very
helpful on "glass canvas". What I have in mind is really just like
wallpaper.
Except that instead of being made of wood fibre paper, it's made
of glass fibre paper. It's sold in rolls just like wallpaper, except it is
generally 1m wide instead of the 53cm more comonly found in wall papers.

Is it something one can find at B&Q/Wickes/Homebase?

Thanks,
Stephane

I believe the English for toile de verre is fibreglass. Fibreglass
wallpaper is not available here - or at least I've never seen or heard
of it.

The British equivalent is woodchip. This is 2 sheets of paper with bits
of wood crumb between them, glued together. Its not very nice.


NT

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:49:23 +0100, "andrewpreece"
wrote:

I have never seen glass fibre wallpaper. However, I have seen 1m wide glass
fibre geotextile, for putting under gravel in driveways. It could be used as
a wallpaper I
suppose, although it does not have a pattern as such, just a swirly random
fibrous
appearance. I bought some in Wickes, near the masonry and cement area.

I would have though anaglypta would be better for your purposes covers a
multitude
of sins, many attractive patterns.

Andy.


I've seen it in Sweden where it comes in a variety of patterns and
textures and is quite popular. Highly durable and certainly better
than woodchip or anaglypta. Typically it's then painted.



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To email, substitute .nospam with .gl

Andy Hall wrote in
:

I've seen it in Sweden where it comes in a variety of patterns and
textures and is quite popular. Highly durable and certainly better
than woodchip or anaglypta. Typically it's then painted.

Google translation of a part of a document from www.ac-
strasbourg.fr/sections/entreprises/marches_en_cours/travaux_de_mise_en_s/do
wnloadFile/attachedFile...

3.3. Fabric of glass with painting Supports: - new Plasterboards -
Characteristic plaster Connections: - decorative Fabric of glass (fibres)
to paint identical to existing Description: - Reception of the supports
and preparation - Supply and poses decorative fabric of glass to paint.
Reason with the choice of the Project superintendent in the range suggested
by the manufacturer - Classification with fi M1 - Installation free in
and out by joining according to indication of the manufacturer - Impression
on all the supports - Implementation on fabric of glass of two coats of
furnishing paint acrylic glossed completion. Colour with the choice of the
Project superintendent - Included/understood all subjections of connections
and perfect completion - Scaffolding - Cleaning Localization: - new
Partitions staircases n° 1 and n° 3 - Sheath of smoke clearing staircase n°
1 - Partition 1st stage on vacuum of the ground floor - Room photocopies
1st stage (2 faces) - Stepping of circulations of 1st on the 5th floor -
Circulation towards fire escape of 4th and 5th stages

Sounds a bit like the type of glass material that used to be used as
curtains. Can't remember why that disappeared - health & safety?
unwashability? ugliness?

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Rod

Rod wrote in
. 4:

Sounds a bit like the type of glass material that used to be used as
curtains. Can't remember why that disappeared - health & safety?
unwashability? ugliness?

Bad form following up one's own post - apologies. But I think that our
antipodean friends may provide a fuller answer:

http://www.swinson.co.nz/glass_tex.htm

--
Rod

On 25 Jul 2005 20:28:28 GMT, Rod wrote:

Andy Hall wrote in
:

I've seen it in Sweden where it comes in a variety of patterns and
textures and is quite popular. Highly durable and certainly better
than woodchip or anaglypta. Typically it's then painted.



Sounds a bit like the type of glass material that used to be used as
curtains. Can't remember why that disappeared - health & safety?
unwashability? ugliness?



http://www.vetrotexglassmat.com/Glas...lcover_fr.html

http://www.malerlager.dk/user.produk...=list&CatID=24

or look for trhe words "tapet" (wallpaper) and "glasfiber"




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"Andy Hall" wrote:
On 25 Jul 2005 20:28:28 GMT, Rod wrote:

Andy Hall wrote in
m:

I've seen it in Sweden where it comes in a variety of patterns and
textures and is quite popular. Highly durable and certainly better
than woodchip or anaglypta. Typically it's then painted.



Sounds a bit like the type of glass material that used to be used as
curtains. Can't remember why that disappeared - health & safety?
unwashability? ugliness?



http://www.vetrotexglassmat.com/Glas...lcover_fr.html

http://www.malerlager.dk/user.produk...=list&CatID=24

or look for trhe words "tapet" (wallpaper) and "glasfiber"

Thanks everybody,

I eventually got some in a French store, as it doesn't look so
common in Britain. Actually, I got one that prouded itself not to
contain glass fibre, as there's a health hasard when you strip it off
(tiny bits of sharp glass fibre, not so good for lungs and eyes).

Thanks again,
Stephane

"Stephane Chazelas" wrote in
:

Thanks everybody,

I eventually got some in a French store, as it doesn't look so
common in Britain. Actually, I got one that prouded itself not to
contain glass fibre, as there's a health hasard when you strip it off
(tiny bits of sharp glass fibre, not so good for lungs and eyes).

Stephane,

But what is toile de verre without any verre? What do they use instead?

I was also concerned about the health issues - and surprised to see it so
widely available (except here in the UK).

--
Rod

2005-07-26, 17:10(+00), Rod:
[...]
But what is toile de verre without any verre? What do they use instead?

Well, that one's not called "toile de verre". "toile textilisée
à peindre" (textile-type canvas to be painted). It's made of (in
French) /polyester/, /celulose/, /résine/ and /charges/ (?).

It's not woven contrary to the /glass canvas/. Note that there's
also "voil de verre" which is thinner and not woven (and flat).

I was also concerned about the health issues - and surprised to see it so
widely available (except here in the UK).

Actually, I can't find anywhere where it's mentionned it's
dangerous. Competitors may play with the fact that glass fibre
wool is know to be dangerous. Actually, we've got bare glass
wool in the building roof space. There's a dust of it flying all
around the roof space and probably infiltrating through the
holes in the ceiling. So a painted (3 times is recommanded which
makes it expensive, especially when you consider you need a lot
of special glue as well) glass canvas is nothing when compared
to glass fibre wool.

regards,
Stéphane

Stephane CHAZELAS wrote in
lid:

2005-07-26, 17:10(+00), Rod:
[...]
But what is toile de verre without any verre? What do they use
instead?

Well, that one's not called "toile de verre". "toile textilisée
à peindre" (textile-type canvas to be painted). It's made of (in
French) /polyester/, /celulose/, /résine/ and /charges/ (?).

It's not woven contrary to the /glass canvas/. Note that there's
also "voil de verre" which is thinner and not woven (and flat).

I was also concerned about the health issues - and surprised to see
it so widely available (except here in the UK).

Actually, I can't find anywhere where it's mentionned it's
dangerous. Competitors may play with the fact that glass fibre
wool is know to be dangerous. Actually, we've got bare glass
wool in the building roof space. There's a dust of it flying all
around the roof space and probably infiltrating through the
holes in the ceiling. So a painted (3 times is recommanded which
makes it expensive, especially when you consider you need a lot
of special glue as well) glass canvas is nothing when compared
to glass fibre wool.

Thank you - that helps.

--
Rod