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Using bread to block pipes while soldering
I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was
soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? |
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"kd" wrote in message ... I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? What did you expect?? How will the bread ever get out of the system?? |
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well the site said it would disolve. Am I the only one to have done this?
"Alan" wrote in message ... "kd" wrote in message ... I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? What did you expect?? How will the bread ever get out of the system?? |
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"kd" writes: well the site said it would disolve. Am I the only one to have done this? Did you manage to create a 1" plug in a 15mm pipe using the whole loaf, by any chance? -- Andrew Gabriel |
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kd wrote:
well the site said it would disolve. Am I the only one to have done this? "Alan" wrote in message ... snip What did you expect?? How will the bread ever get out of the system?? Me thinks you read the site wrong? They where trying to tell you to use your loaf(not literally) |
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ben wrote:
kd wrote: well the site said it would disolve. Am I the only one to have done this? "Alan" wrote in message ... snip What did you expect?? How will the bread ever get out of the system?? Me thinks you read the site wrong? They where trying to tell you to use your loaf(not literally) None of you are proving anything you know. |
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Ian Stirling wrote:
ben wrote: kd wrote: They where trying to tell you to use your loaf(not literally) None of you are proving anything you know. Yeast ill worrying about that? Now, its getting late, time for bread. NT |
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"Ian Stirling" wrote in message ... ben wrote: kd wrote: well the site said it would disolve. Am I the only one to have done this? "Alan" wrote in message ... snip What did you expect?? How will the bread ever get out of the system?? Me thinks you read the site wrong? They where trying to tell you to use your loaf(not literally) None of you are proving anything you know. That's why we're getting all these half baked replies. Mary |
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"Alan" wrote in message ... "kd" wrote in message ... I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? What did you expect?? How will the bread ever get out of the system?? It's not bread any more though, is it? It's toast. Mary |
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writes I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Eat the bread sorry, no idea -- geoff |
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kd wrote: I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Sticklebacks. |
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"Aidan" wrote in message ups.com... kd wrote: I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Sticklebacks. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Love it. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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"Aidan" wrote in
ups.com: kd wrote: I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Sticklebacks. Introduced by the feed tank? Must admit, I thought bread and dripping was something people ate... -- Rod |
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"Rod" wrote in message . 4... "Aidan" wrote in ups.com: kd wrote: I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Sticklebacks. Introduced by the feed tank? Must admit, I thought bread and dripping was something people ate... That's in the marmalade thread ... Mary -- Rod |
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kd wrote:
I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? kd, Recipe for bread pudding: Fill the heating system, add 1 litre of Fernox, 1 litre of noise reducer and the turn the boiler on to gas mark 6, boil for twenty minutes and... :-) You could try leaving the water in the system for around twenty four hours to 'break' the bread down and then open the nearest drain valve, empty the system, connect a hose pipe to the cold water supply and then flush the system through at mains pressure - that should get rid of most of it. Or, you could spend a few hundred pounds and get someone to pressure flush the system - ouch! Brian G |
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kd wrote:
I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Never tried it. Always sounded dodgy to me. :¬) Might be a point you hadn't considered, but is it on a direct flow or return pipe or is it on a brsnch off the flow or return tp/from a radiator and/or smalle circuit ? You might want to try shutting down all (other) radiators in the house, thereby forcing ALL the water through your dreaded breaded joint. -- http://gymratz.co.uk - Best Gym Equipment & Bodybuilding Supplements UK. http://trade-price-supplements.co.uk - TRADE PRICED SUPPLEMENTS for ALL! http://fitness-equipment-uk.com - UK's No.1 Fitness Equipment Suppliers. http://gymratz.co.uk/hot-seat.htm - Live web-cam! (sometimes) |
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"kd" wrote in message ... I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? You are supposed to use a little bit of bread to soak up any small drips, and it means a very little bit of bread. Jamming a whole slice in the pipe to stop a huge flow of water isn't a really good idea, and you may have caused more problems to the system now. Take heart though, as the bread will dissolve down small enough to do no harm, but it might be in about two to three years time. :-) Did you drain the system down completely first? Right down to the point of having very tiny amounts of water left in the pipes? Don't do it again, and use the technique of heating the pipework along a good length so the water left in the pipe boils off. This stops the drips long enough to make a good solder joint. |
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Its an 8mm microbore system. The bread (very small amount) was a desperate
measure after heating the pipe to boil off the water (but as this was on the ground floor there was always more water comming through). The bread was inserted just after a 90 degree bend. All the other radiators work fine and I have flushed the system a few times and raised the preasure to 2.6 bar (normally operates at 1 bar). Is it possible to have fitted the connections the wrong way round? i.e. flow onto return (or would this make no difference?) "BigWallop" wrote in message . uk... "kd" wrote in message ... I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? You are supposed to use a little bit of bread to soak up any small drips, and it means a very little bit of bread. Jamming a whole slice in the pipe to stop a huge flow of water isn't a really good idea, and you may have caused more problems to the system now. Take heart though, as the bread will dissolve down small enough to do no harm, but it might be in about two to three years time. :-) Did you drain the system down completely first? Right down to the point of having very tiny amounts of water left in the pipes? Don't do it again, and use the technique of heating the pipework along a good length so the water left in the pipe boils off. This stops the drips long enough to make a good solder joint. |
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"kd" wrote in message ... Its an 8mm microbore system. The bread (very small amount) was a desperate measure after heating the pipe to boil off the water (but as this was on the ground floor there was always more water comming through). The bread was inserted just after a 90 degree bend. All the other radiators work fine and I have flushed the system a few times and raised the preasure to 2.6 bar (normally operates at 1 bar). Is it possible to have fitted the connections the wrong way round? i.e. flow onto return (or would this make no difference?) All I can think of for your to try, is to remove the fittings on either end of the pipe you worked on. Place you lips over one end, preferably the end furthest away from the bread wad, and then blow the shi........begeezes out of it. The other method is to turn the system on but keep it cold, as in turn the pump on but not the boiler, and open the end of the pipe with the dough ball in it, in the hope that the pressure will be enough to blow the bugger out. You may need a bug bucket or a long hose to do this though, so be prepared. The third method is to leave the system running hot until the bread has dissolved away, but his could take days, weeks, months or even years if you used a good loaf like Kingsmill. :-) But it will eventually clear. |
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"kd" wrote in message ... I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Could it be that you have an airlock, so that the bread cannot dissolve? I've used this method sucessfully many times, but only on rising main lead pipes where the stop cock wouln't totally turn off. In these instances there was no problem with mains pressure pushing the bread out of the kitchen tap! AWEM |
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"kd" wrote in message ... I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? I suppose cutting the pipe by the bread, remove it, and reconnect with a compression joint might do it. -- Keith Willcocks (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!) |
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I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? kd another IMM handle? -- Grunff |
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kd wrote:
I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? too funny. Drill into the bread using nearly zero pressure on the drill. A hook shaped bit would be ideal, but a standard twisst drill shoudl do, but /dont/ press on it. NT |
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kd wrote:
I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Did it get sorted? Please let us know. -- http://gymratz.co.uk - Best Gym Equipment & Bodybuilding Supplements UK. http://trade-price-supplements.co.uk - TRADE PRICED SUPPLEMENTS for ALL! http://fitness-equipment-uk.com - UK's No.1 Fitness Equipment Suppliers. http://gymratz.co.uk/hot-seat.htm - Live web-cam! (sometimes) |
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Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk wrote:
kd wrote: I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Did it get sorted? Please let us know. id expect its dissolved by now. NT |
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wrote in message oups.com... Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk wrote: kd wrote: I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Did it get sorted? Please let us know. id expect its dissolved by now. NT A good Kingsmill loaf can last a few days. :-) LOL |
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BigWallop wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk wrote: kd wrote: I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Did it get sorted? Please let us know. id expect its dissolved by now. A good Kingsmill loaf can last a few days. :-) LOL hehe. With all those 50+ preservatives in, and boiling water to semi sterilise it regularly, it might last years. NT |
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wrote in message ups.com... BigWallop wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk wrote: kd wrote: I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Did it get sorted? Please let us know. id expect its dissolved by now. A good Kingsmill loaf can last a few days. :-) LOL hehe. With all those 50+ preservatives in, and boiling water to semi sterilise it regularly, it might last years. NT Oh Dough!!!! |
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"BigWallop" wrote:
A good Kingsmill loaf can last a few days. :-) LOL And a crap one we bought last week 2 days inside its sell by date was peppered with green blue mould. -- |
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"Matt" wrote in message ... "BigWallop" wrote: A good Kingsmill loaf can last a few days. :-) LOL And a crap one we bought last week 2 days inside its sell by date was peppered with green blue mould. Should've shoved it in your central heating system then. ROFL!!!! (sorry, couldn't resist it) |
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Yes it did! Simple task really.Here are the steps with time scales
1. Dig up the concrete overfill that you laid over the pipes (3 hours) making sure that your wife calls you an idiot every 5 minutes and complains about the new mess 2. Carefully remove the concrete from around the shroud protecting the pipes (1 hours) 3. Remove soldered joint, making sure that it takes 2 hours as water keeps cooling the solder 3. Insert various sized objects into the pipe until you find the right size and flexibility. (1 hour) 4. Try to re-solder the joint until you realise that its impossible and then apply a compression joint instead (3 hours) 5. test the flow and have wife lecture you on being an idiot and never to believe theses bloody news group postings "Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk" wrote in message . uk... kd wrote: I used a tip of pushing bread into a central heating pipe that I was soldering (it was constantly dripping) and it worked fine. Problem is, the pipe is still blocked. Any ideas on how to unblock it? Did it get sorted? Please let us know. -- http://gymratz.co.uk - Best Gym Equipment & Bodybuilding Supplements UK. http://trade-price-supplements.co.uk - TRADE PRICED SUPPLEMENTS for ALL! http://fitness-equipment-uk.com - UK's No.1 Fitness Equipment Suppliers. http://gymratz.co.uk/hot-seat.htm - Live web-cam! (sometimes) |
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"kd" wrote in message ... Yes it did! Simple task really.Here are the steps with time scales 1. Dig up the concrete overfill that you laid over the pipes (3 hours) making sure that your wife calls you an idiot every 5 minutes and complains about the new mess 2. Carefully remove the concrete from around the shroud protecting the pipes (1 hours) 3. Remove soldered joint, making sure that it takes 2 hours as water keeps cooling the solder 3. Insert various sized objects into the pipe until you find the right size and flexibility. (1 hour) 4. Try to re-solder the joint until you realise that its impossible and then apply a compression joint instead (3 hours) 5. test the flow and have wife lecture you on being an idiot and never to believe theses bloody news group postings Should you perhaps have tested your work BEFORE you back filled ? AWEM |
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"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message ... .... Should you perhaps have tested your work BEFORE you back filled ? AWEM Now you're talking like a wife ... Mary |
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kd wrote:
Yes it did! Simple task really.Here are the steps with time scales 1. Dig up the concrete overfill that you laid over the pipes (3 hours) making sure that your wife calls you an idiot every 5 minutes and complains about the new mess Hang on - this just keeps getting better! So not only did you stuff a load of bread up an 8mm microbore pipe and solder it up, you actually buried it in concrete? We all occasionally do silly things, but I'd say unless your reasoning ability was severely impaired (e.g. through drink) at the time, you really should avoid plumbing at all costs in future. -- Grunff |
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"Grunff" wrote in message ... kd wrote: Yes it did! Simple task really.Here are the steps with time scales 1. Dig up the concrete overfill that you laid over the pipes (3 hours) making sure that your wife calls you an idiot every 5 minutes and complains about the new mess Hang on - this just keeps getting better! So not only did you stuff a load of bread up an 8mm microbore pipe and solder it up, you actually buried it in concrete? We all occasionally do silly things, but I'd say unless your reasoning ability was severely impaired (e.g. through drink) at the time, you really should avoid plumbing at all costs in future. Without being unduly nasty to the poor OP... it's quite funny really! -- Bob Mannix (anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not) |
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"Bob Mannix" wrote in message ... .... We all occasionally do silly things, but I'd say unless your reasoning ability was severely impaired (e.g. through drink) at the time, you really should avoid plumbing at all costs in future. Without being unduly nasty to the poor OP... it's quite funny really! Yes, and such personal comments as "Grunff's" say more about him than the OP. If the whole story is true I admire the OP for having the good humour and courage to share it with us. Mary |
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wrote: We all occasionally do silly things, but I'd say unless your reasoning ability was severely impaired (e.g. through drink) at the time, you really should avoid plumbing at all costs in future. Proves the point once again about those so clueless that they post upside down and leave all the original material trailing in the wake :-) -- AJL Electronics (G6FGO) Ltd : Satellite and TV aerial systems http://www.classicmicrocars.co.uk : http://www.ajlelectronics.co.uk |
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In message , kd
writes Yes it did! Simple task really.Here are the steps with time scales 1. Dig up the concrete overfill that you laid over the pipes (3 hours) making sure that your wife calls you an idiot every 5 minutes and complains about the new mess 2. Carefully remove the concrete from around the shroud protecting the pipes (1 hours) 3. Remove soldered joint, making sure that it takes 2 hours as water keeps cooling the solder 3. Insert various sized objects into the pipe until you find the right size and flexibility. (1 hour) 4. Try to re-solder the joint until you realise that its impossible and then apply a compression joint instead (3 hours) 5. test the flow and have wife lecture you on being an idiot and never to believe theses bloody news group postings 6. Get wife to lecture you on the dangers of top posting -- geoff |
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