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Cost of central heating oil?
I need to buy some more oil but am scared by what it might cost. I'll do
some ringing round in a moment but just wondered if anyone else has bought any recently and what you paid per litre as a bit of a benchmark. Normally prices drop a bit in the summer but as it's so freezing today I cant see summer ever arriving! What are your predictions for heating costs in the year or so ahead? Has anyone done any comparisons for example would it be cheaper now to buy more electric heaters and use those instead? I can't get gas here but am very cosy in front of blazing log fire! Thanks Liz |
EN wrote:
I need to buy some more oil but am scared by what it might cost. I'll do some ringing round in a moment but just wondered if anyone else has bought any recently and what you paid per litre as a bit of a benchmark. Normally prices drop a bit in the summer but as it's so freezing today I cant see summer ever arriving! What are your predictions for heating costs in the year or so ahead? Has anyone done any comparisons for example would it be cheaper now to buy more electric heaters and use those instead? I can't get gas here but am very cosy in front of blazing log fire! 24.5p a few weeks ago. Oil is much, much cheaper than electricity. Don't even consider electric heating if you have oil. -- Grunff |
-- Blair "Grunff" wrote in message ... EN wrote: I need to buy some more oil but am scared by what it might cost. I'll do some ringing round in a moment but just wondered if anyone else has bought any recently and what you paid per litre as a bit of a benchmark. Normally prices drop a bit in the summer but as it's so freezing today I cant see summer ever arriving! What are your predictions for heating costs in the year or so ahead? Has anyone done any comparisons for example would it be cheaper now to buy more electric heaters and use those instead? I can't get gas here but am very cosy in front of blazing log fire! 24.5p a few weeks ago. Oil is much, much cheaper than electricity. Don't even consider electric heating if you have oil. -- Grunff I paid 29.1p last week! Living in Pitlochry,Perthshire Blair |
EN wrote:
I need to buy some more oil but am scared by what it might cost. I'll do some ringing round in a moment but just wondered if anyone else has bought any recently and what you paid per litre as a bit of a benchmark. Normally prices drop a bit in the summer but as it's so freezing today I cant see summer ever arriving! What are your predictions for heating costs in the year or so ahead? Has anyone done any comparisons for example would it be cheaper now to buy more electric heaters and use those instead? I can't get gas here but am very cosy in front of blazing log fire! Since the price of our oil is based on Brent Crude Oil, you may find the following BBC page of interest. http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/f...es/default.stm If you select the twelve months graph, you will see that the price of oil is close to its highest level during that time. -- Howard Neil |
"EN" wrote in message ... I need to buy some more oil but am scared by what it might cost. I'll do some ringing round in a moment but just wondered if anyone else has bought any recently and what you paid per litre as a bit of a benchmark. Normally prices drop a bit in the summer but as it's so freezing today I cant see summer ever arriving! What are your predictions for heating costs in the year or so ahead? Has anyone done any comparisons for example would it be cheaper now to buy more electric heaters and use those instead? I can't get gas here but am very cosy in front of blazing log fire! Thanks Liz Boilerjuice is good for price comparisons. http://www.boilerjuice.com/ If you can wait a few weeks summer prices should kick in - usually a few p per litre cheaper. John |
Grunff wrote:
24.5p a few weeks ago. Oil is much, much cheaper than electricity. Don't even consider electric heating if you have oil. About the only way to get a sensible price using leccky is with a heat pump aircon unit. That way you can dump 4kW of heat into the room for 1kW worth of electricity. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
"John Rumm" wrote in message ... Grunff wrote: 24.5p a few weeks ago. Oil is much, much cheaper than electricity. Don't even consider electric heating if you have oil. About the only way to get a sensible price using leccky is with a heat pump aircon unit. That way you can dump 4kW of heat into the room for 1kW worth of electricity. Why is this? I had assumed they'd be less efficent at heating than a traditional heating element. Alan. |
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About the only way to get a sensible price using leccky is with a heat pump aircon unit. That way you can dump 4kW of heat into the room for 1kW worth of electricity. Why is this? I had assumed they'd be less efficent at heating than a traditional heating element. No, because you're using the electricity to drive the heat pump not to provide the heat: the heat itself is being extracted from the outside air (the reverse to running it in a/c mode during the summer). -- Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk Free SEDBUK boiler database browser http://www.sda.co.uk/qsedbuk.htm [Latest version QSEDBUK 1.10 released 4 April 2005] |
"EN" wrote in message ... I need to buy some more oil but am scared by what it might cost. I'll do some ringing round in a moment but just wondered if anyone else has bought any recently and what you paid per litre as a bit of a benchmark. Normally prices drop a bit in the summer but as it's so freezing today I cant see summer ever arriving! What are your predictions for heating costs in the year or so ahead? Has anyone done any comparisons for example would it be cheaper now to buy more electric heaters and use those instead? I can't get gas here but am very cosy in front of blazing log fire! Forget electricity - unless you have your own windmill/hydro plant. Oil is still second only to mains gas in energy/£ so try haggling. Some suppliers have rather a lot of stock at the moment and I've had two 10% off vouchers through the door recently. |
EN wrote:
I need to buy some more oil but am scared by what it might cost. I'll do some ringing round in a moment but just wondered if anyone else has bought any recently and what you paid per litre as a bit of a benchmark. Normally prices drop a bit in the summer but as it's so freezing today I cant see summer ever arriving! What are your predictions for heating costs in the year or so ahead? Has anyone done any comparisons for example would it be cheaper now to buy more electric heaters and use those instead? I can't get gas here but am very cosy in front of blazing log fire! Thanks Liz I cjecked today and in my area it was 28.5p a liter. Try www.boilerjuice.com for a quick quote in yours. Oil dipped below $50 a barrel briefly last week - its back over $55 for Brent Crude, and I've now made enough for 3 tankfuls on buying futures in it ;) |
Alan wrote: "John Rumm" wrote in message ... Grunff wrote: 24.5p a few weeks ago. Oil is much, much cheaper than electricity. Don't even consider electric heating if you have oil. About the only way to get a sensible price using leccky is with a heat pump aircon unit. That way you can dump 4kW of heat into the room for 1kW worth of electricity. Why is this? I had assumed they'd be less efficent at heating than a traditional heating element. Because the 1KW is used to pump 3kw of heat from elsewhere that's already there(like outside air). The 1 kw heat from the compressor is added to this so you get 4kw. It's a refrigerator back to front, with a fan. You could say it's cooling the outside air and transferring the heat to inside. I gather some heat pumps are even more efficient than just 300%. In some places they have pipes under their garden which collect heat from the ground instead of the air, but britain is a bit ecologically backward, so most people haven't even heard of "ground source heating" and the efficiency of heat pumps(1,800,000 gooogle hits) : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+S earch M.K. Alan. |
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:43:32 +0100, "EN" wrote:
I need to buy some more oil but am scared by what it might cost. I'll do some ringing round in a moment but just wondered if anyone else has bought any recently and what you paid per litre as a bit of a benchmark. Normally prices drop a bit in the summer but as it's so freezing today I cant see summer ever arriving! What are your predictions for heating costs in the year or so ahead? Has anyone done any comparisons for example would it be cheaper now to buy more electric heaters and use those instead? I can't get gas here but am very cosy in front of blazing log fire! Thanks Liz Work out how many tress you burn a year, and plant that many, then every time you chop one down, plant 2, you have an endless supply of virtually free wood. I have a friend with 40 tress, he burns 1 a year. Rick |
wrote in message oups.com... Alan wrote: "John Rumm" wrote in message ... Grunff wrote: 24.5p a few weeks ago. Oil is much, much cheaper than electricity. Don't even consider electric heating if you have oil. About the only way to get a sensible price using leccky is with a heat pump aircon unit. That way you can dump 4kW of heat into the room for 1kW worth of electricity. Why is this? I had assumed they'd be less efficent at heating than a traditional heating element. Because the 1KW is used to pump 3kw of heat from elsewhere that's already there(like outside air). The 1 kw heat from the compressor is added to this so you get 4kw. It's a refrigerator back to front, with a fan. You could say it's cooling the outside air and transferring the heat to inside. I gather some heat pumps are even more efficient than just 300%. In some places they have pipes under their garden which collect heat from the ground instead of the air, but britain is a bit ecologically backward, so most people haven't even heard of "ground source heating" and the efficiency of heat pumps(1,800,000 gooogle hits) : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+S earch M.K. Alan. Thanks, I often wondered about the efficiency of running A/C heat pump systems all year to heat and cool a building as required. I guess by the same token, the cooling process is reasonably energy efficient also. Alan. |
Alan wrote:
Thanks, I often wondered about the efficiency of running A/C heat pump systems all year to heat and cool a building as required. It works well in places with mild climates. The greater the temp diff between outdoor and in, the less effieicnt it gets. So its inefficienct in the coldest weather, not ideal. Still better than plug in leccy heaters tho. The other issue is the upfront cost. I gather this has fallen a lot now tho. I guess by the same token, the cooling process is reasonably energy efficient also. not compared to the other options, no. NT |
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"Alan" wrote in message ... Thanks, I often wondered about the efficiency of running A/C heat pump systems all year to heat and cool a building as required. I guess by the same token, the cooling process is reasonably energy efficient also. Heat pumps are very expensive to install. Running cost is the same as natural gas. No need to cool domestic houses in the UK, if proper insulation, shading, ventilation is done. |
"Tony Bryer" wrote in message ... In article , Alan wrote: About the only way to get a sensible price using leccky is with a heat pump aircon unit. That way you can dump 4kW of heat into the room for 1kW worth of electricity. Why is this? I had assumed they'd be less efficent at heating than a traditional heating element. No, because you're using the electricity to drive the heat pump not to provide the heat: the heat itself is being extracted from the outside air (the reverse to running it in a/c mode during the summer). Heat pumps move heat. They are less efficient in winter, when you want them, as there is less heat to move. They require careful thought, understanding and a lot of figures worked out before buying one. |
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