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Hamie May 15th 05 10:17 PM

Plasterboard pattresses... How strong?
 
Subject says it all really... How strong is a plasterboard pattress?
I've only ever had experience of either metal ones in a brick wall, and
so afstened quite securely to brick with a screw, or metal ones in a
plasterboard wall, but fastened to a batten behind it (Also nice &
strong) in NZ houses...

The UK plasterboard ones are new to me & I've never put one to test.
Since I've possibly got some going in RSN, I'd like to know how string
they are, and whether it's possible to rip them out of the wall (Along
with a big piece of plasterboard) when pulling a plug from a socket when
they become a little... Stuck (As they seem to do on occasion).

Anyone had a problem like that? How big is the tab that goes behind the
plasterboard that provides the strength for pulling it outwards?

TIA

Hamish.

Mike May 15th 05 10:26 PM


"Hamie" wrote in message
...
Subject says it all really... How strong is a plasterboard pattress?
I've only ever had experience of either metal ones in a brick wall, and
so afstened quite securely to brick with a screw, or metal ones in a
plasterboard wall, but fastened to a batten behind it (Also nice &
strong) in NZ houses...

The UK plasterboard ones are new to me & I've never put one to test.
Since I've possibly got some going in RSN, I'd like to know how string
they are, and whether it's possible to rip them out of the wall (Along
with a big piece of plasterboard) when pulling a plug from a socket when
they become a little... Stuck (As they seem to do on occasion).

Anyone had a problem like that? How big is the tab that goes behind the
plasterboard that provides the strength for pulling it outwards?


The tab is about a half inch by and inch each side. It is probably quite
easy to rip the whole lot out of the wall if you put your mind to it. We
do have the approaches you use in NZ as well if you are likely to need
strong sockets :-)



Stuart May 16th 05 12:02 AM

On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:17:51 +0100, Hamie
wrote:

Subject says it all really... How strong is a plasterboard pattress?
I've only ever had experience of either metal ones in a brick wall, and
so afstened quite securely to brick with a screw, or metal ones in a
plasterboard wall, but fastened to a batten behind it (Also nice &
strong) in NZ houses...

The UK plasterboard ones are new to me & I've never put one to test.
Since I've possibly got some going in RSN, I'd like to know how string
they are, and whether it's possible to rip them out of the wall (Along
with a big piece of plasterboard) when pulling a plug from a socket when
they become a little... Stuck (As they seem to do on occasion).

Anyone had a problem like that? How big is the tab that goes behind the
plasterboard that provides the strength for pulling it outwards?

TIA

Hamish.


I must admit to not having thought about that as all the ones I have
fitted to plasterboard have been where the board was tiled as well .I
think if I was doing it without tiles I might well be a bit wary about
them tearing out the wall but inreality I doubt it would happen .Why
not get a box and mount it on to a piece of board and try pulling out
the plug to see how it feels /acts .
Stuart






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John Rumm May 16th 05 02:58 AM

Hamie wrote:

Subject says it all really... How strong is a plasterboard pattress?


assuming you don't over tighten the screws when you fit it then they are
plenty strong enough for most applications. Try and cut the holes so
they are snug, and skim after they are fitted (but before the faceplates).

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Cheers,

John.

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. May 16th 05 11:35 AM


Subject says it all really... How strong is a plasterboard pattress?
I've only ever had experience of either metal ones in a brick wall, and
so afstened quite securely to brick with a screw, or metal ones in a
plasterboard wall, but fastened to a batten behind it (Also nice &
strong) in NZ houses...

The UK plasterboard ones are new to me & I've never put one to test.
Since I've possibly got some going in RSN, I'd like to know how string
they are, and whether it's possible to rip them out of the wall (Along
with a big piece of plasterboard) when pulling a plug from a socket when
they become a little... Stuck (As they seem to do on occasion).

Anyone had a problem like that? How big is the tab that goes behind the
plasterboard that provides the strength for pulling it outwards?


There are some in our house that have been there 16 years with a lot of
use. There has been no problem with them.

--
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Paul May 16th 05 12:14 PM

"Hamie" wrote in message
...
Subject says it all really... How strong is a plasterboard pattress?
I've only ever had experience of either metal ones in a brick wall, and
so afstened quite securely to brick with a screw, or metal ones in a
plasterboard wall, but fastened to a batten behind it (Also nice &
strong) in NZ houses...

The UK plasterboard ones are new to me & I've never put one to test.
Since I've possibly got some going in RSN, I'd like to know how string
they are, and whether it's possible to rip them out of the wall (Along
with a big piece of plasterboard) when pulling a plug from a socket when
they become a little... Stuck (As they seem to do on occasion).

Anyone had a problem like that? How big is the tab that goes behind the
plasterboard that provides the strength for pulling it outwards?

TIA

Hamish.



The socket that is screwed to the box is actually pulling on the tabs behind
and that in turn pulls the box into the wall so when you pull on the plug it
is transferring the load through the screws to the tabs so if you were to
pull hard enough it would only really pull a couple of cresent shaped peices
from the sides.

Paul




Hamie May 16th 05 06:20 PM

Paul wrote:
"Hamie" wrote in message
...

Subject says it all really... How strong is a plasterboard pattress?
I've only ever had experience of either metal ones in a brick wall, and
so afstened quite securely to brick with a screw, or metal ones in a
plasterboard wall, but fastened to a batten behind it (Also nice &
strong) in NZ houses...

The UK plasterboard ones are new to me & I've never put one to test.
Since I've possibly got some going in RSN, I'd like to know how string
they are, and whether it's possible to rip them out of the wall (Along
with a big piece of plasterboard) when pulling a plug from a socket when
they become a little... Stuck (As they seem to do on occasion).

Anyone had a problem like that? How big is the tab that goes behind the
plasterboard that provides the strength for pulling it outwards?

TIA

Hamish.




The socket that is screwed to the box is actually pulling on the tabs behind
and that in turn pulls the box into the wall so when you pull on the plug it
is transferring the load through the screws to the tabs so if you were to
pull hard enough it would only really pull a couple of cresent shaped peices
from the sides.

Paul




Cheers for that. I wasn't sure how large those tabs were at the back of
the board...

No horror stories from here about them, so it can't be that bad. I guess
if it all goes tits up I can always rip them out & redo it with metal
ones fastened to something solid.

H




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