heating problems
 

Hi there,

I think I might have a problem with our combi boiler but before I call a
plumber out I thought Id ask here.

Basically, at the moment the house feels cold all the time. The radiators
are hot but not boiling. I did recently take out a radiator (and not yet
replace) and refill the system.

The radiator that I have temporarily removed is in the hall where the
thermostat is so this room is cold but Id have thought that this would
resuilt in the rest of the house being warmer as the thermostat tries to
bring the hall up to temperature.

The thermostat is an old mechanical type and the "click" when it turns on or
off is way below the desired level although Im sure there is some degree of
inaccruacy in these devices.

However, when I turn the thermostat right up (so the heating should come
on), the boiler does not always light up. Should I expect to be on all the
time, if the house is trying to be heated or does it have to come on and off
(hope that makes sense).

The only other thing I can think of of use is that after refilling the
system, although the "boiler off" pressure is between 0.5bar and 1bar as
recommended, the hot pressure goes to nearly 2.5bar.

Any ideas?

Thansk

Tim

YOU DID BLEED THE SYSTEM WHEN YOU REFILLED THE SYSTEM AFTER REMOVING A RAD??

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:18:57 +0100, Tim Smith wrote:

Hi there,

I think I might have a problem with our combi boiler but before I call a
plumber out I thought Id ask here.

Basically, at the moment the house feels cold all the time. The radiators
are hot but not boiling. I did recently take out a radiator (and not yet
replace) and refill the system.

The radiator that I have temporarily removed is in the hall where the
thermostat is so this room is cold but Id have thought that this would
resuilt in the rest of the house being warmer as the thermostat tries to
bring the hall up to temperature.

The thermostat is an old mechanical type and the "click" when it turns on or
off is way below the desired level although Im sure there is some degree of
inaccruacy in these devices.

However, when I turn the thermostat right up (so the heating should come
on), the boiler does not always light up. Should I expect to be on all the
time, if the house is trying to be heated or does it have to come on and off
(hope that makes sense).

The only other thing I can think of of use is that after refilling the
system, although the "boiler off" pressure is between 0.5bar and 1bar as
recommended, the hot pressure goes to nearly 2.5bar.

Most of the problems sound like poor circulation.
The pressure rise is a problem with the expansion vessel see FAQ below.

Perhaps the auto air bleed on the boiler is closed?
Perhaps there is a debris on a return strainer?
Perhaps the boiler was isolated using the flow/return isolators and not
fully returned to service?
perhaps the _boiler's_ thermostat is set too low?

HTH

--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html

I did notice the other day that there were a few drips of water coming out
of the pressure relief overflow pipe which goes through the outside wall.

Would this support any of your suggestions ?

Tim


"Ed Sirett" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:18:57 +0100, Tim Smith wrote:

Hi there,

I think I might have a problem with our combi boiler but before I call a
plumber out I thought Id ask here.

Basically, at the moment the house feels cold all the time. The radiators
are hot but not boiling. I did recently take out a radiator (and not yet
replace) and refill the system.

The radiator that I have temporarily removed is in the hall where the
thermostat is so this room is cold but Id have thought that this would
resuilt in the rest of the house being warmer as the thermostat tries to
bring the hall up to temperature.

The thermostat is an old mechanical type and the "click" when it turns on
or
off is way below the desired level although Im sure there is some degree
of
inaccruacy in these devices.

However, when I turn the thermostat right up (so the heating should come
on), the boiler does not always light up. Should I expect to be on all
the
time, if the house is trying to be heated or does it have to come on and
off
(hope that makes sense).

The only other thing I can think of of use is that after refilling the
system, although the "boiler off" pressure is between 0.5bar and 1bar as
recommended, the hot pressure goes to nearly 2.5bar.

Most of the problems sound like poor circulation.
The pressure rise is a problem with the expansion vessel see FAQ below.

Perhaps the auto air bleed on the boiler is closed?
Perhaps there is a debris on a return strainer?
Perhaps the boiler was isolated using the flow/return isolators and not
fully returned to service?
perhaps the _boiler's_ thermostat is set too low?

HTH

--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:57:50 +0100, Tim Smith wrote:

I did notice the other day that there were a few drips of water coming out
of the pressure relief overflow pipe which goes through the outside wall.

Would this support any of your suggestions ?

Tim

Please read the FAQ.
But the other problem is about either poor circulation or you have the
radiators half full of air. (hot at the bottom but less hot/not at the
top).



"Ed Sirett" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:18:57 +0100, Tim Smith wrote:

Hi there,

I think I might have a problem with our combi boiler but before I call a
plumber out I thought Id ask here.

Basically, at the moment the house feels cold all the time. The radiators
are hot but not boiling. I did recently take out a radiator (and not yet
replace) and refill the system.

The radiator that I have temporarily removed is in the hall where the
thermostat is so this room is cold but Id have thought that this would
resuilt in the rest of the house being warmer as the thermostat tries to
bring the hall up to temperature.

The thermostat is an old mechanical type and the "click" when it turns on
or
off is way below the desired level although Im sure there is some degree
of
inaccruacy in these devices.

However, when I turn the thermostat right up (so the heating should come
on), the boiler does not always light up. Should I expect to be on all
the
time, if the house is trying to be heated or does it have to come on and
off
(hope that makes sense).

The only other thing I can think of of use is that after refilling the
system, although the "boiler off" pressure is between 0.5bar and 1bar as
recommended, the hot pressure goes to nearly 2.5bar.

Most of the problems sound like poor circulation.
The pressure rise is a problem with the expansion vessel see FAQ below.

Perhaps the auto air bleed on the boiler is closed?
Perhaps there is a debris on a return strainer?
Perhaps the boiler was isolated using the flow/return isolators and not
fully returned to service?
perhaps the _boiler's_ thermostat is set too low?

HTH

--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html


--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html

Thanks Ed,

I did read the FAQ but still didnt understand completely. Anyway I think Ill
get a plumber in to have a look.

Thanks agian,

Tim

"Ed Sirett" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:57:50 +0100, Tim Smith wrote:

I did notice the other day that there were a few drips of water coming
out
of the pressure relief overflow pipe which goes through the outside wall.

Would this support any of your suggestions ?

Tim

Please read the FAQ.
But the other problem is about either poor circulation or you have the
radiators half full of air. (hot at the bottom but less hot/not at the
top).



"Ed Sirett" wrote in message
n.co.uk...
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:18:57 +0100, Tim Smith wrote:

Hi there,

I think I might have a problem with our combi boiler but before I call
a
plumber out I thought Id ask here.

Basically, at the moment the house feels cold all the time. The
radiators
are hot but not boiling. I did recently take out a radiator (and not
yet
replace) and refill the system.

The radiator that I have temporarily removed is in the hall where the
thermostat is so this room is cold but Id have thought that this would
resuilt in the rest of the house being warmer as the thermostat tries
to
bring the hall up to temperature.

The thermostat is an old mechanical type and the "click" when it turns
on
or
off is way below the desired level although Im sure there is some
degree
of
inaccruacy in these devices.

However, when I turn the thermostat right up (so the heating should
come
on), the boiler does not always light up. Should I expect to be on all
the
time, if the house is trying to be heated or does it have to come on
and
off
(hope that makes sense).

The only other thing I can think of of use is that after refilling the
system, although the "boiler off" pressure is between 0.5bar and 1bar
as
recommended, the hot pressure goes to nearly 2.5bar.

Most of the problems sound like poor circulation.
The pressure rise is a problem with the expansion vessel see FAQ below.

Perhaps the auto air bleed on the boiler is closed?
Perhaps there is a debris on a return strainer?
Perhaps the boiler was isolated using the flow/return isolators and not
fully returned to service?
perhaps the _boiler's_ thermostat is set too low?

HTH

--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html


--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:57:05 +0100, Tim Smith wrote:

Thanks Ed,

I did read the FAQ but still didnt understand completely. Anyway I think Ill
get a plumber in to have a look.

I'm keen to make the FAQ as clear as possible so if you have found
something not clear I'd like to know.


Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html