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Dyson The Ball
Has any one bought one yet? any opinions? my hoover has given up the
ghost, and i bought a dc07 all floors for work and was quite impressed. before i go and buy a dc07 i was wondering if its worth going for a 'Ball' model? Steve |
Buy a Numatic Henry instead - runs rings round a Dyson at less than
half the price and more reliable to boot. Dave |
On 8 Apr 2005 08:01:12 -0700, "Magician"
wrote: Buy a Numatic Henry instead - runs rings round a Dyson at less than half the price and more reliable to boot. I'd second that. Haven't bought one yet but intend to when our Dysons give up the ghost. spon |
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"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:13:11 UTC, (s--p--o--n--i--x) wrote: On 8 Apr 2005 08:01:12 -0700, "Magician" wrote: Buy a Numatic Henry instead - runs rings round a Dyson at less than half the price and more reliable to boot. I'd second that. Haven't bought one yet but intend to when our Dysons give up the ghost. Thirded. Must remember to put the Dyson on eBay....! -- Bob Eager Fourthed. Get a Henry for each floor. Toby |
On 8 Apr 2005 08:01:12 -0700, "Magician"
wrote: Buy a Numatic Henry instead - runs rings round a Dyson at less than half the price and more reliable to boot. It depends on what the original poster wants the cleaner for. If you want a machine that can suction up crap in the workshop or you want a cleaner that you can really bash around then possibly a Henry. However, if you want a cleaner that does not rapidly loose suction after you change the bag then a Dyson. We have a Henry at work. There is a significant drop off in suction power after a few minutes of use with a new bag. Graham |
Hi Graham
However, if you want a cleaner that does not rapidly loose suction after you change the bag then a Dyson. Depends on the suction you have to begin with. Last test figures I saw, a Henry with an 80% full bag still had more suction than a Dyson. Apart from which, no need for a bag in a Henry anyway. The main filter does the job and just needs ahaking out. Dave |
it will be used for carpets, deep pile and short, solid wood floor and solid
tiled kitchen floors...we have 3 large hairy dogs, and two fluffy cats, so must have a beater bar to remove hairs. we have log burning fires, so dust is a problem in our house, so maximum retention is needed. steve |
r.p.mcmurphy wrote:
it will be used for carpets, deep pile and short, solid wood floor and solid tiled kitchen floors...we have 3 large hairy dogs, and two fluffy cats, so must have a beater bar to remove hairs. we have log burning fires, so dust is a problem in our house, so maximum retention is needed. Dunno how much they cost (not cheap I expect) but Mieles seem quite good. Haven't got one myslef but I've used them a few times at other people's places and always been impressed by them |
Hi Steve
You need an upright vac. Not the cheapest, but if you can get hold of a Sebo www.sebo.co.uk it will cope with everything you can throw at it and more. Dave |
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John Stumbles wrote: Dunno how much they cost (not cheap I expect) but Mieles seem quite good. Haven't got one myslef but I've used them a few times at other people's places and always been impressed by them My parents just last week gave up with their dyson and got a miele (cat and dog model I seem to recall). They are very impressed so far and for under 20 quid a year you can get a parts and labour warranty from miele - that includes them sending you 13 quids worth of bags and filters each year for 5 years. It is quite and has a brush head that is powered by the suction - for another 90 quid or so you can get an electric powered brush head. They paid 200 quid give or take a quid. Beware of places selling them cheaper online - most of them seemed to be the lower powered model (my parents one is 2kw). As I say, they are well happy with it so far and its first go across the living room picked up a lot of crap left by the dyson. Darren - has a dyson and is relatively happy with it |
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Magician writes Hi Graham However, if you want a cleaner that does not rapidly loose suction after you change the bag then a Dyson. Depends on the suction you have to begin with. Last test figures I saw, a Henry with an 80% full bag still had more suction than a Dyson. Apart from which, no need for a bag in a Henry anyway. The main filter does the job and just needs ahaking out. I've lived in two places with Henrys, and was pretty happy with them - and considered buying one when we moved tot his house. but have since owned 2 Dysons (first one was stolen). I still think the performance of the Dysons is better than the Henrys (hence buying the replacement). Of course given the price differential, the Henry may well be considered to be better value for money. -- Chris French, Leeds |
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r.p.mcmurphy writes it will be used for carpets, deep pile and short, solid wood floor and solid tiled kitchen floors...we have 3 large hairy dogs, and two fluffy cats, so must have a beater bar to remove hairs. we have log burning fires, so dust is a problem in our house, so maximum retention is needed. Well, I'm still a fan of our Dyson (we have DC07 I think). We have the 'Turbo head' pipe attachment that works well at removing cat hairs from places like rugs, upholstery, stairs etc. it's general performance at removing our cat hairs seems fine. If you prefer a cylinder then one of the models has motorized brush head IIRC. -- Chris French, Leeds |
dmc wrote:
My parents just last week gave up with their dyson and got a miele (cat and dog model I seem to recall). They are very impressed so far and for under 20 quid a year you can get a parts and labour warranty from miele - that includes them sending you 13 quids worth of bags and filters each year for 5 years. It is quite and has a brush head that is powered by the suction - for another 90 quid or so you can get an electric powered brush head. The turbo brush is brilliant. Until it gets long hair wound round it. I have had to strip ours down numerous times and it is surprisingly awkward to get it working well again. Also, it is truly dumb of them to supply just one filter with each pack of bags. They must cost all of, umm, 0.2p each to make them - and plaster really clogs them up quickly. A new filter with each bag would be more sensible. Rod |
wrote in message ... On 8 Apr 2005 08:01:12 -0700, "Magician" wrote: Buy a Numatic Henry instead - runs rings round a Dyson at less than half the price and more reliable to boot. It depends on what the original poster wants the cleaner for. If you want a machine that can suction up crap in the workshop or you want a cleaner that you can really bash around then possibly a Henry. However, if you want a cleaner that does not rapidly loose suction after you change the bag then a Dyson. We have a Henry at work. There is a significant drop off in suction power after a few minutes of use with a new bag. We have a DC08 Animal indoors and a Henry in the garage, I agree about the drop in suction with the Henry. although it doesn't have anywhere near the same amount of suction as the DC08 to start with. The Henry is more robust and ok if you don't have dogs hairs to contend with, but the DC08 copes much better with pet hairs, as we found with our 2 GSD's. |
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:09:09 +0100, "Toby Sleigh"
wrote: Fourthed. Get a Henry for each floor. Get the steel cased Henry (25 quid more) and you can just drop it between floors. |
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:39:03 +0100, "r.p.mcmurphy"
wrote: it will be used for carpets, deep pile and short, solid wood floor and solid tiled kitchen floors...we have 3 large hairy dogs, and two fluffy cats, so must have a beater bar to remove hairs. we have log burning fires, so dust is a problem in our house, so maximum retention is needed. Try a Dyson with a hepper filter. I used to suffer from a mild dust alergy. Since we got a dyson with the hepper filter my dust alergy has gone. Graham |
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 23:00:49 +0100, "Kaiser" wrote:
The Henry is more robust and ok if you don't have dogs hairs to contend with, but the DC08 copes much better with pet hairs, as we found with our 2 GSD's. GSD's? Graham |
wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 23:00:49 +0100, "Kaiser" wrote: The Henry is more robust and ok if you don't have dogs hairs to contend with, but the DC08 copes much better with pet hairs, as we found with our 2 GSD's. GSD's? German Shepard Dogs |
r.p.mcmurphy wrote:
Has any one bought one yet? any opinions? my hoover has given up the ghost, and i bought a dc07 all floors for work and was quite impressed. before i go and buy a dc07 i was wondering if its worth going for a 'Ball' model? Steve No way. Having had to take all te dysons in to get them unblocked, I am sick of teh ruddy things. Designed by a man to be bought by women, to be fixed by men. There a moral in there somewhere. |
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... r.p.mcmurphy wrote: Has any one bought one yet? any opinions? my hoover has given up the ghost, and i bought a dc07 all floors for work and was quite impressed. before i go and buy a dc07 i was wondering if its worth going for a 'Ball' model? Steve No way. Having had to take all te dysons in to get them unblocked, I am sick of teh ruddy things. Designed by a man to be bought by women, to be fixed by men. There a moral in there somewhere. Firstly you can't take Dysons in, they come out to you. They are amongst the easiest to take apart when you get a blockage. After owning several Dysons over the years I have never known any of them to get blocked. So god knows what you are doing with yours. |
Kaiser wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... r.p.mcmurphy wrote: Has any one bought one yet? any opinions? my hoover has given up the ghost, and i bought a dc07 all floors for work and was quite impressed. before i go and buy a dc07 i was wondering if its worth going for a 'Ball' model? Steve No way. Having had to take all te dysons in to get them unblocked, I am sick of teh ruddy things. Designed by a man to be bought by women, to be fixed by men. There a moral in there somewhere. Firstly you can't take Dysons in, they come out to you. Oh? sorry. I'll have to tell that to the wife who took them in to the vaccum repairt shop and got them fixed. Obviosuly she is in as much danger as bathing in paraffin and handling candles. They are amongst the easiest to take apart when you get a blockage. No they are not actually..if the blockage happens inside the large tube that connects the brush area to the cylinder area.. In fact you cannot take them apart at all. Its a rod job there, and I hand't got a suitable one. I do love poepl who know so much, that ones actual direct physical experience is obviously hallucinatory. After owning several Dysons over the years I have never known any of them to get blocked. So god knows what you are doing with yours. I frankly don't touch them She was vacuuming up threads and bits of dog hair and probably some of the lamb shank he had left gnawed on the carpet. Its a ditzy product for people who live ditzy lives. It doesn't cope with REAL cleaning. |
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Kaiser wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... r.p.mcmurphy wrote: Has any one bought one yet? any opinions? my hoover has given up the ghost, and i bought a dc07 all floors for work and was quite impressed. before i go and buy a dc07 i was wondering if its worth going for a 'Ball' model? Steve No way. Having had to take all te dysons in to get them unblocked, I am sick of teh ruddy things. Designed by a man to be bought by women, to be fixed by men. There a moral in there somewhere. Firstly you can't take Dysons in, they come out to you. Oh? sorry. I'll have to tell that to the wife who took them in to the vaccum repairt shop and got them fixed. Obviosuly she is in as much danger as bathing in paraffin and handling candles. They are amongst the easiest to take apart when you get a blockage. No they are not actually..if the blockage happens inside the large tube that connects the brush area to the cylinder area.. In fact you cannot take them apart at all. Its a rod job there, and I hand't got a suitable one. I do love poepl who know so much, that ones actual direct physical experience is obviously hallucinatory. True then, I thought you may have been hallucinating. After owning several Dysons over the years I have never known any of them to get blocked. So god knows what you are doing with yours. I frankly don't touch them And you a dedicated DIY'er. She was vacuuming up threads and bits of dog hair and probably some of the lamb shank he had left gnawed on the carpet. Probably vacuuming bull****. |
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r.p.mcmurphy writes Has any one bought one yet? any opinions? my hoover has given up the ghost, and i bought a dc07 all floors for work and was quite impressed. before i go and buy a dc07 i was wondering if its worth going for a 'Ball' model? Maybe it should be renamed the "Testicle" -- geoff |
Kaiser wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Kaiser wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... r.p.mcmurphy wrote: Has any one bought one yet? any opinions? my hoover has given up the ghost, and i bought a dc07 all floors for work and was quite impressed. before i go and buy a dc07 i was wondering if its worth going for a 'Ball' model? Steve No way. Having had to take all te dysons in to get them unblocked, I am sick of teh ruddy things. Designed by a man to be bought by women, to be fixed by men. There a moral in there somewhere. Firstly you can't take Dysons in, they come out to you. Oh? sorry. I'll have to tell that to the wife who took them in to the vaccum repairt shop and got them fixed. Obviosuly she is in as much danger as bathing in paraffin and handling candles. They are amongst the easiest to take apart when you get a blockage. No they are not actually..if the blockage happens inside the large tube that connects the brush area to the cylinder area.. In fact you cannot take them apart at all. Its a rod job there, and I hand't got a suitable one. I do love poepl who know so much, that ones actual direct physical experience is obviously hallucinatory. True then, I thought you may have been hallucinating. After owning several Dysons over the years I have never known any of them to get blocked. So god knows what you are doing with yours. I frankly don't touch them And you a dedicated DIY'er. More than my lifes worth. There are problems its dangerous to take ownership of. Fixing (or not fixing) a machine I despise that SHE thinks is fantastic, because she spent a ****load of cash on it and can't admit what a pile of crap it is, is one of them., |
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said Ian Johnston Wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:00:46 UTC, wrote: However, if you want a cleaner that does not rapidly loose suction after you change the bag then a Dyson. Have you noticed that they are always very careful never to give absolute values for suction ... while a Dyson may well lose less, it may equally well have a lot less to lose in the first place ... Ian -- Ill go with that, they are poor when new and go Worse with age, Ive tried plenty of them and wouldn't give them a second thought. Electrolux make a 1600w one , still bagless and half the price. the main filter does start to block up but you just throw it in the washer and it comes out as new again and it will suck the brushes of a Dyson! Had a DC-01 and it was fantastic so when that went west we got a DC-07 which (nothing I could put my finger on) failed to impress me so when that died got a BOSCH (Bosch BUC-17000-GB Extraa xx) which seems to be the bees knees. By the way never had a blockage in an inaccesible part of a Dyson only managed to get blockages in a removable section through gross misuse (ahem!! picking up shredded paper from a shredder bucket). -- yours S Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione |
At last here is the key to Dysons. Bought DC01at a boot sale 5 years
ago for =A320 and use in my woodwork shop for all that dust. If i suck up the big shavings by mistake i use a piece of metal rod to push out of bottom chute. No hoses to flap around and empties in seconds. The filters - blow out with an air gun - so simple. And easy to repair, the cable was eventually pulled too tight at entry and repaired in 5 mins. As a designer myself I can appreciate every design detail. |
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