Hi all

Further to my little rant here recently about BCOs and 'means of
escape' windows, I've been talking further with mine about the 3
windows which she wants me to replace.

It turns out that one of them (which already opens, but is too low for
safety) can be legitimised if I fit a restrictor to prevent it opening
far enough to fall out of, but which can be overridden in the case of
emergency. Anyone got any ideas where I'd get one of these (or how I
could make one even?)

The window concerned is one of those uPVC one which has hinges along
the bottom as well as up the side, to allow both modes of opening.
The model is no longer made, so no chance of finding 'spares' or
alternative fittings for it.

Any thoughts on this much appreciated.

David

On 14 Jul 2004 07:05:06 -0700,
(Lobster) wrote:

Hi all

Further to my little rant here recently about BCOs and 'means of
escape' windows, I've been talking further with mine about the 3
windows which she wants me to replace.

It turns out that one of them (which already opens, but is too low for
safety) can be legitimised if I fit a restrictor to prevent it opening
far enough to fall out of, but which can be overridden in the case of
emergency. Anyone got any ideas where I'd get one of these (or how I
could make one even?)

The window concerned is one of those uPVC one which has hinges along
the bottom as well as up the side, to allow both modes of opening.
The model is no longer made, so no chance of finding 'spares' or
alternative fittings for it.

Any thoughts on this much appreciated.

David
From experience in our house, I could have offered suggestions for top
hinged windows but not your type.

On 14 Jul 2004 07:05:06 -0700,
(Lobster) wrote:

Hi all

Further to my little rant here recently about BCOs and 'means of
escape' windows, I've been talking further with mine about the 3
windows which she wants me to replace.

It turns out that one of them (which already opens, but is too low for
safety) can be legitimised if I fit a restrictor to prevent it opening
far enough to fall out of, but which can be overridden in the case of
emergency. Anyone got any ideas where I'd get one of these (or how I
could make one even?)

The window concerned is one of those uPVC one which has hinges along
the bottom as well as up the side, to allow both modes of opening.
The model is no longer made, so no chance of finding 'spares' or
alternative fittings for it.

Any thoughts on this much appreciated.

David

Sir

I had a HUGE window issue, the BCO wanted one thing, the planner a
different thing. To save another argument, I was tired of moths of
these two arguing, I purchased two windows, and swaped them in and out
depending who I expected to turn up next. The other window was always
left on the floor.

What I suggest you do is go down to the local rehau factory, buy a
window the BCO likes, swap it over. When she won't come back again,
put your nice window back in.

Rick

Rick Dipper wrote in message . ..

I had a HUGE window issue, the BCO wanted one thing, the planner a
different thing. To save another argument, I was tired of moths of
these two arguing, I purchased two windows, and swaped them in and out
depending who I expected to turn up next. The other window was always
left on the floor.

What I suggest you do is go down to the local rehau factory, buy a
window the BCO likes, swap it over. When she won't come back again,
put your nice window back in.

Wow - one way of sorting it I suppose! In my case the existing window
isn't particularly special though; I'm merely trying to avoid having
to buy and fit a replacement, a little add-on accessory would be much
cheaper and easier if such a thing exists, which is looking unlikely
at the moment :-(

Thanks anyway
David

"Lobster" wrote in message
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Rick Dipper wrote in message
. ..

I had a HUGE window issue, the BCO wanted one thing, the planner a
different thing. To save another argument, I was tired of moths of
these two arguing, I purchased two windows, and swaped them in and out
depending who I expected to turn up next. The other window was always
left on the floor.

What I suggest you do is go down to the local rehau factory, buy a
window the BCO likes, swap it over. When she won't come back again,
put your nice window back in.

Wow - one way of sorting it I suppose! In my case the existing window
isn't particularly special though; I'm merely trying to avoid having
to buy and fit a replacement, a little add-on accessory would be much
cheaper and easier if such a thing exists, which is looking unlikely
at the moment :-(

Thanks anyway
David

Never had one of those dual opening windows so these ideas may be shots in
the dark.
Could a childs safety lock that are fitted to kitchen cupboards be a basis
for an idea ( the kind when you open the doorway a little then depress them
to open fully )
If it was a 'normal' upvc window then I would say glue a little plastic
block in the track the hinge slides in or you could use a piece of soft
metal i.e. aluminium that had been sawn through a little so that it
restricted the opening in normal use but in an emergency the window could be
pushed out fully with a little force ( idea behind this were those glass
firedoor bolts) or you could fit a set of restrictor hinges from toolstation
etc
Talking of firedoors what about those cable tie type things they use on the
doors that break at a certain force but keeps the doors together if the
levers are operated by accident

Anyway just a few ideas that came to mind

Steve

Could a childs safety lock that are fitted to kitchen cupboards be a basis
for an idea ( the kind when you open the doorway a little then depress
them
to open fully )

Would a horizontal steel bar protecting the low down bit look out of place?
I imagine it wouldn't look too bad in some (mostly modern) contexts.

Christian.

"Christian McArdle" wrote in message . net...
Could a childs safety lock that are fitted to kitchen cupboards be a basis
for an idea ( the kind when you open the doorway a little then depress
them
to open fully )

Would a horizontal steel bar protecting the low down bit look out of place?
I imagine it wouldn't look too bad in some (mostly modern) contexts.

I'd thought about that one but BCO said it would need to conform to
the 'child's head' test (ie need railings rather than a single rail);
and being an internally opening window it would need to be on the
outside, which BCO reckoned the planners would kick off about (maybe a
Rick Dipper - type trick could work though!!)

Thanks
David

"Steve" wrote in message ...

Never had one of those dual opening windows so these ideas may be shots in
the dark.
Could a childs safety lock that are fitted to kitchen cupboards be a basis
for an idea ( the kind when you open the doorway a little then depress them
to open fully )
If it was a 'normal' upvc window then I would say glue a little plastic
block in the track the hinge slides in or you could use a piece of soft
metal i.e. aluminium that had been sawn through a little so that it
restricted the opening in normal use but in an emergency the window could be
pushed out fully with a little force ( idea behind this were those glass
firedoor bolts) or you could fit a set of restrictor hinges from toolstation
etc
Talking of firedoors what about those cable tie type things they use on the
doors that break at a certain force but keeps the doors together if the
levers are operated by accident

Thanks a lot Steve, some useful thoughts there.

I visited a window supplier today in fact, and as I suspected, they
have a neat gizmo to attach to a normal window, but it would be fouled
by the tilt'n turn mechanism. I was mulling it over with the bloke
though, and he came up with the idea of a standard front-door security
chain, which sounds just the job. Now waiting to hear back from
BCO-lady to see if she will give it the seal of approval...!

David