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Diagnosing reversing trigger switch on drill
I have a Porter Cable hammer drill (#7750) and the reverse isn't working. I have opened
up the handle and accessed the trigger switch, but there are a few too many wires going into it for me to figure out where to test. I see the main current wires(one white and one black) coming into it, and the two wires(one black and one red) going to the two brushes. But I don't understand how the reversing action occurs. Is it a simple reversing of the polarity going to the brushes? If so, how to test? Do I have to test it live, or energize the wires with a small battery? I'd like to ask for some ideas on this. John |
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"jbclem" wrote in message ... | I have a Porter Cable hammer drill (#7750) and the reverse isn't working. I have opened | up the handle and accessed the trigger switch, but there are a few too many wires going | into it for me to figure out where to test. I see the main current wires(one white and | one black) coming into it, and the two wires(one black and one red) going to the two | brushes. But I don't understand how the reversing action occurs. Is it a simple | reversing of the polarity going to the brushes? If so, how to test? Do I have to test | it live, or energize the wires with a small battery? I'd like to ask for some ideas on | this. An AC/DC motor can be reversed by reversing the current flow to the armature OR the field but not both (since it IS an AC motor). N |
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 17:36:18 -0800, "jbclem" wrote:
I have a Porter Cable hammer drill (#7750) and the reverse isn't working. I have opened up the handle and accessed the trigger switch, but there are a few too many wires going into it for me to figure out where to test. I see the main current wires(one white and one black) coming into it, and the two wires(one black and one red) going to the two brushes. But I don't understand how the reversing action occurs. Is it a simple reversing of the polarity going to the brushes? Yes If so, how to test? Do I have to test it live, or energize the wires with a small battery? I'd like to ask for some ideas on this. I went to Google - typed in - "Porter Cable" 7750 & the third result was this page: http://www.acetoolrepair.com/PorterCableHTML/7750.htm which contains a picture type schematic better viewed as: http://www.acetoolrepair.com/PorterC...es/7750pg2.gif The above gif has two versions with the reversing switch wired the same in both. From the drawing reversing is done on the armature leads (the black & red leads to the brushes). The reversing switch is the rectangle on top of the switch - with the armature connected to the "A" & "D" terminals. In one direction: "A" connects to "B" and "D" connects to "C" In the other direction: "A" connects to "C" and "D" connects to "B" If you want to test it independently then disconnect the wires & test with any continuity tester. Test for continuity between terminals mentioned above. One set of contacts will be open if it is defective. From your description the trouble is almost certainly in the reversing switch. If the drill runs in one direction & not the other the trouble must be in this switch. Maybe something you can see is preventing full movement of the reversing switch lever? A replacement may be available..... Hmmm... Looking at the exploded diagram the switch/triac is item #4 & the parts list shows it as "switch/triac" assembly. It seems the switch assembly is not available separately. Also two different styles of switch/triac assemblies were shipped for this model & only the later design is available as a replacement (per drawing note). A hammer drill puts _lots_ of extra stress on the whole switch assembly/wiring & can vibrate internal parts enough to break. As these switches are usually sealed replacement is required. The "switch/triac" part number seems to be 873498. Going to Sears parts http://www3.sears.com/ & inputting this p/n it seems they have it for $41.75. It is described as a "Switch". Or just don't use reverse No guarantees - Double check everything I say - Please be safe! Kim |
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Kim,
Thanks for laying it out for me. I actually have the same schematic(s) that you found at Acetoolrepair, but I hadn't noticed the part that was the reversing switch on top of the trigger switch, and wouldn't have been too sure which wires to test. I'll test for continuity, and I expect it'll show what we already suspect...bad switch. Since this is a borrowed tool I don't have the option of going without reverse, I found a web site with the switch for $32 and the Sears price will be a good backup. Regards, John "Kim Clay" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 17:36:18 -0800, "jbclem" wrote: I have a Porter Cable hammer drill (#7750) and the reverse isn't working. I have opened up the handle and accessed the trigger switch, but there are a few too many wires going into it for me to figure out where to test. I see the main current wires(one white and one black) coming into it, and the two wires(one black and one red) going to the two brushes. But I don't understand how the reversing action occurs. Is it a simple reversing of the polarity going to the brushes? Yes If so, how to test? Do I have to test it live, or energize the wires with a small battery? I'd like to ask for some ideas on this. I went to Google - typed in - "Porter Cable" 7750 & the third result was this page: http://www.acetoolrepair.com/PorterCableHTML/7750.htm which contains a picture type schematic better viewed as: http://www.acetoolrepair.com/PorterC...es/7750pg2.gif The above gif has two versions with the reversing switch wired the same in both. From the drawing reversing is done on the armature leads (the black & red leads to the brushes). The reversing switch is the rectangle on top of the switch - with the armature connected to the "A" & "D" terminals. In one direction: "A" connects to "B" and "D" connects to "C" In the other direction: "A" connects to "C" and "D" connects to "B" If you want to test it independently then disconnect the wires & test with any continuity tester. Test for continuity between terminals mentioned above. One set of contacts will be open if it is defective. From your description the trouble is almost certainly in the reversing switch. If the drill runs in one direction & not the other the trouble must be in this switch. Maybe something you can see is preventing full movement of the reversing switch lever? A replacement may be available..... Hmmm... Looking at the exploded diagram the switch/triac is item #4 & the parts list shows it as "switch/triac" assembly. It seems the switch assembly is not available separately. Also two different styles of switch/triac assemblies were shipped for this model & only the later design is available as a replacement (per drawing note). A hammer drill puts _lots_ of extra stress on the whole switch assembly/wiring & can vibrate internal parts enough to break. As these switches are usually sealed replacement is required. The "switch/triac" part number seems to be 873498. Going to Sears parts http://www3.sears.com/ & inputting this p/n it seems they have it for $41.75. It is described as a "Switch". Or just don't use reverse No guarantees - Double check everything I say - Please be safe! Kim |
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