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how to adjust the staionary control track/mono audio head ?
Hello all,
I'm trying to realign this VHS vcr head without any special equipment. It has three adjustment screws,each on springs. One in the front, to control the front height, and two at the back (like a triangular arrangement) to control the back height / azimuth angle. I don't think it's critical, not using the mono sound track. A problem I'm observing is the 2 to 3 inches of tape between this head, and the rightmost roller guide. As the tape is playing, there is not even tension on the tape, visible here as an occasional "flap" of the tape on the top edge. The bottom edge of the tape is tight but the top is comparatively loose. Not sure if this due to this heads alignment, or possibly a worn switch roller. Any tips appreciated. Dave |
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davexnet:
The A/C head "tilt" adjustment can straighten out the problem you described with the apparent slack at the top of the tape; just don't over do it; make certain that the tape is smooth at both the top and bottom just before it goes past the A/C head. And yes, the "pinch roller" (switch roller?) can have a lot to do with smooth tape handling and proper running past the A/C head, replace it if the A/C head tilt adjustment is not providing proper results. electricitym = davexnet02 wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to realign this VHS vcr head without any special equipment. It has three adjustment screws,each on springs. One in the front, to control the front height, and two at the back (like a triangular arrangement) to control the back height / azimuth angle. I don't think it's critical, not using the mono sound track. A problem I'm observing is the 2 to 3 inches of tape between this head, and the rightmost roller guide. As the tape is playing, there is not even tension on the tape, visible here as an occasional "flap" of the tape on the top edge. The bottom edge of the tape is tight but the top is comparatively loose. Not sure if this due to this heads alignment, or possibly a worn switch roller. Any tips appreciated. Dave |
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"davexnet02" bravely wrote to "All" (02 Jan 05 01:57:24)
--- on the heady topic of "how to adjust the staionary control track/mono audio = head ?" da From: davexnet02 da Xref: aeinews sci.electronics.repair:5552 da Hello all, da I'm trying to realign this VHS vcr head without any special da equipment. It has three adjustment screws,each on springs. da One in the front, to control the front height, and two at da the back (like a triangular arrangement) to control the da back height / azimuth angle. da I don't think it's critical, not using the mono da sound track. da A problem I'm observing is the 2 to 3 inches of tape da between this head, and the rightmost roller guide. da As the tape is playing, there is not even tension on the tape, da visible here as an occasional "flap" of the tape on the top edge. da The bottom edge of the tape is tight but the top is da comparatively loose. da Not sure if this due to this heads alignment, or possibly da a worn switch roller. da Any tips appreciated. Dave, it's never supposed to ride over the edge, only beside it. The AC head isn't supposed to change top or bottom tension but if the tape path is wrong then it might. I would suspect wear or an improperly sitting load arm. Don't mess with the AC unless you are sure the path is good. I bet you will find it to be okay then. A*s*i*m*o*v .... This message transmitted on 100% recycled photons. |
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davexnet: The A/C head "tilt" adjustment can straighten out the problem you described with the apparent slack at the top of the tape; just don't over do it; make certain that the tape is smooth at both the top and bottom just before it goes past the A/C head. And yes, the "pinch roller" (switch roller?) can have a lot to do with smooth tape handling and proper running past the A/C head, replace it if the A/C head tilt adjustment is not providing proper results. electricitym If no one messed with the A/C adjustments, they haven't changed on their own! First try cleaning the pinch roller very thoroughly. If that seems to help, replace it. --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ Mirror: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/ Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/ +Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/lasersam.htm | Mirror Sites: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/F_mirror.html Note: These links are hopefully temporary until we can sort out the excessive traffic on Repairfaq.org. Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above is ignored unless my full name is included in the subject line. Or, you can contact me via the Feedback Form in the FAQs. davexnet02 wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to realign this VHS vcr head without any special equipment. It has three adjustment screws,each on springs. One in the front, to control the front height, and two at the back (like a triangular arrangement) to control the back height / azimuth angle. I don't think it's critical, not using the mono sound track. A problem I'm observing is the 2 to 3 inches of tape between this head, and the rightmost roller guide. As the tape is playing, there is not even tension on the tape, visible here as an occasional "flap" of the tape on the top edge. The bottom edge of the tape is tight but the top is comparatively loose. Not sure if this due to this heads alignment, or possibly a worn switch roller. |
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On 02 Jan 2005 10:14:08 -0500, Sam Goldwasser
wrote: writes: If no one messed with the A/C adjustments, they haven't changed on their own! Obviously. I'm responsible for it being moved, for reasons that are besides the point. I've got it back into a reasonalbe position. No tracking problems, and good audio from the mono head. First try cleaning the pinch roller very thoroughly. If that seems to help, replace it. The pinch roller is shot. I started cleaning it and it's crumbling before my eyes. Now, the tape is being driven up slightly by this roller, resulting in a small tape crease on one of the guides. Where can I get a new roller. Any sources? I'll call http://www.partsolver.com/Default.asp It looks like they have a bunch of parts for this model (slv-798hf). regards, Dave |
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On Saturday, 01 Jan 2005 23:00:00 -500, "Asimov"
wrote: Dave, it's never supposed to ride over the edge, only beside it. The AC head isn't supposed to change top or bottom tension but if the tape path is wrong then it might. I would suspect wear or an improperly sitting load arm. Don't mess with the AC unless you are sure the path is good. I bet you will find it to be okay then. ... This message transmitted on 100% recycled photons. Hi A*s*i*m*o*v thanks for the info. Video and hifi audio alignment is perfect, the two roller guides that align around the drum have never been moved. The main problem I have is actually the rubber pinch roller; I'll have to find a replacement (any sources appreciated) I seem to have realigned the A/C head to a reasonable accuracy. cheers, Dave |
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Dave
After replacing the pinch roller, assuming you find one, then DO set the azimuth accurately for maximum treble response when playing a pre-recorded tape in mono lo-fi mode. If the azimuth is out, recordings you make will sound horrible on other non-hifi machines, and anyway you can cause the control pulses to be poorly recorded causing yet more problems. The tape riding up as you describe is a common symptom of a ruined pinch roller. Colin (www.colin99.co.uk) davexnet02 wrote: On Saturday, 01 Jan 2005 23:00:00 -500, "Asimov" wrote: Dave, it's never supposed to ride over the edge, only beside it. The AC head isn't supposed to change top or bottom tension but if the tape path is wrong then it might. I would suspect wear or an improperly sitting load arm. Don't mess with the AC unless you are sure the path is good. I bet you will find it to be okay then. ... This message transmitted on 100% recycled photons. Hi A*s*i*m*o*v thanks for the info. Video and hifi audio alignment is perfect, the two roller guides that align around the drum have never been moved. The main problem I have is actually the rubber pinch roller; I'll have to find a replacement (any sources appreciated) I seem to have realigned the A/C head to a reasonable accuracy. cheers, Dave |
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 19:56:09 +0000, Colin McCormick
wrote: Dave After replacing the pinch roller, assuming you find one, then DO set the azimuth accurately for maximum treble response when playing a pre-recorded tape in mono lo-fi mode. If the azimuth is out, recordings you make will sound horrible on other non-hifi machines, and anyway you can cause the control pulses to be poorly recorded causing yet more problems. The tape riding up as you describe is a common symptom of a ruined pinch roller. Colin (www.colin99.co.uk) Thanks for the info Colin, I will indeed endeavor to properly align the azimuth once I get the pinch roller replaced. I've located it at www.partsolver.com for $20 - could be worse. Cheers, Dave |
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On Saturday, 01 Jan 2005 23:00:00 -500, "Asimov"
wrote: "davexnet02" bravely wrote to "All" (02 Jan 05 01:57:24) --- on the heady topic of "how to adjust the staionary control track/mono audio head ?" da From: davexnet02 da Xref: aeinews sci.electronics.repair:5552 da Hello all, da I'm trying to realign this VHS vcr head without any special da equipment. It has three adjustment screws,each on springs. da One in the front, to control the front height, and two at da the back (like a triangular arrangement) to control the da back height / azimuth angle. snip Dave, it's never supposed to ride over the edge, only beside it. The AC head isn't supposed to change top or bottom tension but if the tape path is wrong then it might. I would suspect wear or an improperly sitting load arm. Don't mess with the AC unless you are sure the path is good. I bet you will find it to be okay then. A*s*i*m*o*v ... This message transmitted on 100% recycled photons. Hi A*s*i*m*o*v I realigned the A/C as best as I can. I'm observing reasonable production of the mono audio track, and no obvious control track errors. One thing that seems flexible on this head is the absolute height. Just made a guess on this; I think I left it slightly higher than it was. I actually fixed the old rubber pinch roller - at least till I can get it replaced. I ended up filing it down with a nail file, until the crud was off and it was even as best as I could get it. regards, Dave |
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