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Converting a ATX PS to 13.8v
Just to say it's sorted. All the guff about the overvoltage protection
with the SG 6105 proved a red herring in this case. As the spec covers the range 10.1 - 14.5v (typical) without mods. All that was needed was to alter the voltage on the 'IN' pin. But with the fan plugged in. Without it any alteration to that voltage caused the PS to shut down. With it, I've got my 13.8v (approx) without problems. 270K was the value (original 120K) needed in this case. But probably won't help others since this is a generic PS with no maker's name. -- *Acupuncture is a jab well done* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Converting a ATX PS to 13.8v
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:48:07 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
put finger to keyboard and composed: Just to say it's sorted. All the guff about the overvoltage protection with the SG 6105 proved a red herring in this case. As the spec covers the range 10.1 - 14.5v (typical) without mods. All that was needed was to alter the voltage on the 'IN' pin. You are not actually altering the IN voltage. It remains at +2.5V due to the action of the error amp. The other input to the amp is internal to the IC and is fixed at +2.5V. But with the fan plugged in. Without it any alteration to that voltage caused the PS to shut down. Were you testing the supply without a load? With it, I've got my 13.8v (approx) without problems. 270K was the value (original 120K) needed in this case. But probably won't help others since this is a generic PS with no maker's name. If you did not remove the +5V sense resistor, then the output may fluctuate as the load varies. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Converting a ATX PS to 13.8v
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Franc Zabkar wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:48:07 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" put finger to keyboard and composed: Just to say it's sorted. All the guff about the overvoltage protection with the SG 6105 proved a red herring in this case. As the spec covers the range 10.1 - 14.5v (typical) without mods. All that was needed was to alter the voltage on the 'IN' pin. You are not actually altering the IN voltage. It remains at +2.5V due to the action of the error amp. The other input to the amp is internal to the IC and is fixed at +2.5V. Right - so what is happening to alter the output voltage? But with the fan plugged in. Without it any alteration to that voltage caused the PS to shut down. Were you testing the supply without a load? No - I was loading it with a 55 watt car headlamp bulb. With it, I've got my 13.8v (approx) without problems. 270K was the value (original 120K) needed in this case. But probably won't help others since this is a generic PS with no maker's name. If you did not remove the +5V sense resistor, then the output may fluctuate as the load varies. Seems pretty stable - at least for my purposes. - Franc Zabkar -- *Age is a very high price to pay for maturity. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Converting a ATX PS to 13.8v
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:57:08 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
put finger to keyboard and composed: In article , Franc Zabkar wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:48:07 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" put finger to keyboard and composed: Just to say it's sorted. All the guff about the overvoltage protection with the SG 6105 proved a red herring in this case. As the spec covers the range 10.1 - 14.5v (typical) without mods. All that was needed was to alter the voltage on the 'IN' pin. You are not actually altering the IN voltage. It remains at +2.5V due to the action of the error amp. The other input to the amp is internal to the IC and is fixed at +2.5V. Right - so what is happening to alter the output voltage? I don't know much more about the black art of switchmode PSUs than the average tech, but AFAICS in this particular case all one needs to understand is that the error amp inputs must be equal when the supply is regulating correctly. If the output is too high, then the error amp reduces the drive to the chopper (by narrowing the pulse), thus bringing the output back down. Conversely, if the output is too low, then the error amp increases the drive to the chopper. But with the fan plugged in. Without it any alteration to that voltage caused the PS to shut down. Were you testing the supply without a load? No - I was loading it with a 55 watt car headlamp bulb. With it, I've got my 13.8v (approx) without problems. 270K was the value (original 120K) needed in this case. But probably won't help others since this is a generic PS with no maker's name. If you did not remove the +5V sense resistor, then the output may fluctuate as the load varies. Seems pretty stable - at least for my purposes. - Franc Zabkar I mentioned this possibility because I had a fake 400W PSU (really only 200W) where the +12V rail moved about in response to changes in the +5V load. Also ISTR that some HDD enclosures include a dummy load resistor for load balancing. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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