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stuck oil filter!
I have a 96 chevy 350 1500 4x4. The oil filter is almost impossible to
get to. To make a long story short. the filter is a crumpled up mess. I took the housing that fiton on the block off and still cant get the reminents of the folter off. I have tried using a screwdriver and hammer to turn the old filter, did not work. Any ideas? Also, this truck has two wcrew in lines to this housing that go to a factory oil cooler. Anyone know if these lines have seals in them? I appreciate your help! |
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stuck oil filter!
"stryped" wrote in message ... I have a 96 chevy 350 1500 4x4. The oil filter is almost impossible to get to. To make a long story short. the filter is a crumpled up mess. I took the housing that fiton on the block off and still cant get the reminents of the folter off. I have tried using a screwdriver and hammer to turn the old filter, did not work. Any ideas? Also, this truck has two wcrew in lines to this housing that go to a factory oil cooler. Anyone know if these lines have seals in them? I appreciate your help! Cut enough of the filter can off to expose the nut or threaded area of the filter. Then try two things. Using a hammer and chisel at an angle to spin the nut off, or chisel the nut to expand it's diameter by chiseling directly toward the center line of the nut in 5 or 6 places, and revert to step one. |
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stuck oil filter!
"stryped" wrote in message ... I have a 96 chevy 350 1500 4x4. The oil filter is almost impossible to get to. To make a long story short. the filter is a crumpled up mess. I took the housing that fiton on the block off and still cant get the reminents of the folter off. I have tried using a screwdriver and hammer to turn the old filter, did not work. Any ideas? Also, this truck has two wcrew in lines to this housing that go to a factory oil cooler. Anyone know if these lines have seals in them? I appreciate your help! 1. what tim said - usually a cold chisel on the rim of the filter where it is rolled together will spin it off 2. on my 93, there is an o-rin seal on these lines at the radiator end, I have never pulled the other end |
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stuck oil filter!
On Jul 25, 11:37*pm, "Bill Noble" wrote:
"stryped" wrote in message ... I have a 96 chevy 350 1500 4x4. The oil filter is almost impossible to get to. To make a long story short. the filter is a crumpled up mess. I took the housing that fiton on the *block off and still cant get the reminents of the folter off. I have tried using a screwdriver and hammer to turn the old filter, did not work. Any ideas? Also, this truck has two wcrew in lines to this housing that go to a factory oil cooler. Anyone know if these lines have seals in them? I appreciate your help! 1. what tim said - usually a cold chisel on the rim of the filter where it is rolled together will spin it off 2. on my 93, there is an o-rin seal on these lines at the radiator end, I have never pulled the other end I have learned that some models have a different filter housing where the filter sits vertically instead of horizontally. These do not use an oil cooler. Will there be any issues if I convert to this and not use an oil cooler? |
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stuck oil filter!
On 2009-07-26, stryped wrote:
On Jul 25, 11:37*pm, "Bill Noble" wrote: [ ... ] I have learned that some models have a different filter housing where the filter sits vertically instead of horizontally. These do not use an oil cooler. Will there be any issues if I convert to this and not use an oil cooler? Based on my experience years ago -- converting an MGA's filter mounting point to one which turned the filter vertically (much easier to change the filter -- I no longer had to jack the engine up in the motor mounts to clear the frame), and keeping the oil cooler, I had both flex oil lines to the oil cooler fail shortly after the conversion -- because the lines had been cooked into shape over the years and had become rather brittle. If you totally remove all the existing oil lines going to the cooler and don't need to re-route any other flexible lines, you might get away with it -- but I would suggest replacing the oil lines with new and keeping the cooler so the engine does not get as hot -- particularly in the oil pan. Good Luck, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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stuck oil filter!
"stryped" wrote in message ... On Jul 25, 11:37 pm, "Bill Noble" wrote: "stryped" wrote in message ... I have a 96 chevy 350 1500 4x4. The oil filter is almost impossible to get to. To make a long story short. the filter is a crumpled up mess. I took the housing that fiton on the block off and still cant get the reminents of the folter off. I have tried using a screwdriver and hammer to turn the old filter, did not work. Any ideas? Also, this truck has two wcrew in lines to this housing that go to a factory oil cooler. Anyone know if these lines have seals in them? I appreciate your help! 1. what tim said - usually a cold chisel on the rim of the filter where it is rolled together will spin it off 2. on my 93, there is an o-rin seal on these lines at the radiator end, I have never pulled the other end I have learned that some models have a different filter housing where the filter sits vertically instead of horizontally. These do not use an oil cooler. Will there be any issues if I convert to this and not use an oil cooler? ---- The oil cooler is there to cool the oil - if you don't anticipate situations where the oil will require the additional cooling - for example you won't be towing anything or operating in high temperatures, then you are probably OK - you are going from "heavy duty" to "light duty" - personally, I wouldn't but it's your car |
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stuck oil filter!
I once had a Chev O/F so tight, after cutting the can off, I had to
use a cutting torch to cut the webs between the holes in the base plate to remove it. I planned a slow death for whoever installed it, if I ever found him. JR Dweller in the cellar On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:01:55 -0500, "Tim" wrote: "stryped" wrote in message ... I have a 96 chevy 350 1500 4x4. The oil filter is almost impossible to get to. To make a long story short. the filter is a crumpled up mess. I took the housing that fiton on the block off and still cant get the reminents of the folter off. I have tried using a screwdriver and hammer to turn the old filter, did not work. Any ideas? Also, this truck has two wcrew in lines to this housing that go to a factory oil cooler. Anyone know if these lines have seals in them? I appreciate your help! Cut enough of the filter can off to expose the nut or threaded area of the filter. Then try two things. Using a hammer and chisel at an angle to spin the nut off, or chisel the nut to expand it's diameter by chiseling directly toward the center line of the nut in 5 or 6 places, and revert to step one. -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
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stuck oil filter!
"JR North" wrote in message ... I once had a Chev O/F so tight, after cutting the can off, I had to use a cutting torch to cut the webs between the holes in the base plate to remove it. I planned a slow death for whoever installed it, if I ever found him. Fortunately the worst I have encountered could be removed by driving a punch through them, and using it for a tee handle. I always use the old standard of wetting the seal with oil, spinning down until the seal contacts, and adding 1/3 of a turn. I have never had one leak, and have always been able to remove them by hand. This info used to be printed on some filters. |
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stuck oil filter!
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:17:23 -0500, "Tim" wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message .. . I once had a Chev O/F so tight, after cutting the can off, I had to use a cutting torch to cut the webs between the holes in the base plate to remove it. I planned a slow death for whoever installed it, if I ever found him. Fortunately the worst I have encountered could be removed by driving a punch through them, and using it for a tee handle. I always use the old standard of wetting the seal with oil, spinning down until the seal contacts, and adding 1/3 of a turn. I have never had one leak, and have always been able to remove them by hand. This info used to be printed on some filters. You have the adapter off? Chuck it into a good vise, tear the can off and arc-weld a solid steel bar to the base-plate of the filter. The heat will release the gasket as well as any seizure to the center-post thread - the bar will give you leverage to remove it. |
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