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Slightly OT - Superglue
I bought an ounce of 3M CA40H from Mcmaster-
Carr, to replace the expired Locktite superglue that we normally use. I like the 3M much better. No white fur around the bond, seems to harden in a linear and predictable way, giving you a little time to fine-tune the positioning of the parts and an excellent nozzle on the container. |
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Slightly OT - Superglue
On 2009-07-20, Jim Stewart wrote:
I bought an ounce of 3M CA40H from Mcmaster- Carr, to replace the expired Locktite superglue that we normally use. What is the McMaster item number? i I like the 3M much better. No white fur around the bond, seems to harden in a linear and predictable way, giving you a little time to fine-tune the positioning of the parts and an excellent nozzle on the container. |
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Slightly OT - Superglue
Ignoramus17892 wrote:
On 2009-07-20, Jim Stewart wrote: I bought an ounce of 3M CA40H from Mcmaster- Carr, to replace the expired Locktite superglue that we normally use. What is the McMaster item number? 75445A68 i I like the 3M much better. No white fur around the bond, seems to harden in a linear and predictable way, giving you a little time to fine-tune the positioning of the parts and an excellent nozzle on the container. |
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Slightly OT - Superglue
"Jim Stewart" wrote in message ... I bought an ounce of 3M CA40H from Mcmaster- Carr, to replace the expired Locktite superglue that we normally use. I like the 3M much better. No white fur around the bond, seems to harden in a linear and predictable way, giving you a little time to fine-tune the positioning of the parts and an excellent nozzle on the container. Could be due to the thickness or viscosity. I flew model airplanes for a while, several years ago, but still find myself buying a lot of glues from my local hobby shop. They offer super glue in three viscosities from super thin (much like water) to medium and thick (like light syrup). The thicker the glue the longer the set time. They also have debonder and accelerator. You spread glue on one surface and spray the accelerator on the other surface, and get a full cure in about two seconds. They also have 5 and 15 minute epoxies that serve very well. |
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Slightly OT - Superglue
Tim wrote:
"Jim Stewart" wrote in message ... I bought an ounce of 3M CA40H from Mcmaster- Carr, to replace the expired Locktite superglue that we normally use. I like the 3M much better. No white fur around the bond, seems to harden in a linear and predictable way, giving you a little time to fine-tune the positioning of the parts and an excellent nozzle on the container. Could be due to the thickness or viscosity. I flew model airplanes for a while, several years ago, but still find myself buying a lot of glues from my local hobby shop. They offer super glue in three viscosities from super thin (much like water) to medium and thick (like light syrup). The thicker the glue the longer the set time. They also have debonder and accelerator. You spread glue on one surface and spray the accelerator on the other surface, and get a full cure in about two seconds. They also have 5 and 15 minute epoxies that serve very well. I should have given an example. I had to tack down a tiny length of 30ga wire wrap wire on a prototype. With the Locktite product, regardless of the viscosity (I have all three), the glue has zero holding power when first applied. With the 3M product, it started holding the wire right away, but still gave me plenty of time to fine- tune the position. I've also used the accelerator and I generally don't like it. Stinky and gives me only one chance to get it right. |
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Slightly OT - Superglue
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:56:03 -0700, Jim Stewart wrote:
Tim wrote: "Jim Stewart" wrote in message ... I bought an ounce of 3M CA40H from Mcmaster- Carr, to replace the expired Locktite superglue that we normally use. I like the 3M much better. No white fur around the bond, seems to harden in a linear and predictable way, giving you a little time to fine-tune the positioning of the parts and an excellent nozzle on the container. Could be due to the thickness or viscosity. I flew model airplanes for a while, several years ago, but still find myself buying a lot of glues from my local hobby shop. They offer super glue in three viscosities from super thin (much like water) to medium and thick (like light syrup). The thicker the glue the longer the set time. They also have debonder and accelerator. You spread glue on one surface and spray the accelerator on the other surface, and get a full cure in about two seconds. They also have 5 and 15 minute epoxies that serve very well. I should have given an example. I had to tack down a tiny length of 30ga wire wrap wire on a prototype. With the Locktite product, regardless of the viscosity (I have all three), the glue has zero holding power when first applied. With the 3M product, it started holding the wire right away, but still gave me plenty of time to fine- tune the position. I've also used the accelerator and I generally don't like it. Stinky and gives me only one chance to get it right. This technique has probably been obsoleted by the Church or Antismokerism, but someone once taught me that the cure of the syrupy stuff (for gluing down #30 wires) can be "activated" by holding a burning cigarette under it, letting the second-hand smoke waft against the glue. (you have to hold the board upside-down, so the glue is above the red ash part of the cig.) For what it's worth. Cheers! Rich |
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"Tim" wrote in message m... "Jim Stewart" wrote in message ... I bought an ounce of 3M CA40H from Mcmaster- Carr, to replace the expired Locktite superglue that we normally use. I like the 3M much better. No white fur around the bond, seems to harden in a linear and predictable way, giving you a little time to fine-tune the positioning of the parts and an excellent nozzle on the container. Could be due to the thickness or viscosity. I flew model airplanes for a while, several years ago, but still find myself buying a lot of glues from my local hobby shop. They offer super glue in three viscosities from super thin (much like water) to medium and thick (like light syrup). The thicker the glue the longer the set time. They also have debonder and accelerator. You spread glue on one surface and spray the accelerator on the other surface, and get a full cure in about two seconds. They also have 5 and 15 minute epoxies that serve very well. I think they have 60 sec two-part epoxies as well, up to 90 min. The advantage is these last near-forever when usused, don't even really need to cap them! Loctite and someone else, mebbe Devcon, make a super-wide array of two part stuff. I suspect the two part stuff is tougher than the one-part stuff, a better polymerization dynamic. I read that bearings that would normally be press fit are actually stronger when epoxied in -- tremendous shear strength, with any kind of area. 1,000's of lbs per sq in, iirc. Which, if the bearing is doing its job, shouldn't even be necessary. You need, tho, about .010 to .020 clearance, on the radius. But proly not heat-resistant, at all. -- Mr. PV'd Mae West (yer fav CongressShill) to the Gangster (yer fav Lobbyist): Hey, Big Boy, is that a wad (of cash) in yer pocket, or are you just glad to see me?? Experiment on Homo Sapiens -- CEOs, Lawyers, and Politicians, in particular. Spare the animals. Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today. www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ |
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Slightly OT - Superglue
"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message m... "Jim Stewart" wrote in message ... I bought an ounce of 3M CA40H from Mcmaster- Carr, to replace the expired Locktite superglue that we normally use. I like the 3M much better. No white fur around the bond, seems to harden in a linear and predictable way, giving you a little time to fine-tune the positioning of the parts and an excellent nozzle on the container. Could be due to the thickness or viscosity. I flew model airplanes for a while, several years ago, but still find myself buying a lot of glues from my local hobby shop. They offer super glue in three viscosities from super thin (much like water) to medium and thick (like light syrup). The thicker the glue the longer the set time. They also have debonder and accelerator. You spread glue on one surface and spray the accelerator on the other surface, and get a full cure in about two seconds. They also have 5 and 15 minute epoxies that serve very well. I think they have 60 sec two-part epoxies as well, up to 90 min. The advantage is these last near-forever when usused, don't even really need to cap them! Loctite and someone else, mebbe Devcon, make a super-wide array of two part stuff. I suspect the two part stuff is tougher than the one-part stuff, a better polymerization dynamic. I read that bearings that would normally be press fit are actually stronger when epoxied in -- tremendous shear strength, with any kind of area. 1,000's of lbs per sq in, iirc. Which, if the bearing is doing its job, shouldn't even be necessary. You need, tho, about .010 to .020 clearance, on the radius. But proly not heat-resistant, at all. -- Mr. PV'd Mae West (yer fav CongressShill) to the Gangster (yer fav Lobbyist): Hey, Big Boy, is that a wad (of cash) in yer pocket, or are you just glad to see me?? Experiment on Homo Sapiens -- CEOs, Lawyers, and Politicians, in particular. Spare the animals. Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today. www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ On Check Sorters years ago, we always loctite the bearings on the outside. Save the major casting from being trash when a bearing floze. The center was loctited also, but would normally breal loose. But the center rode on replaceable studs. |
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