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"Flash" wrote:
Not just in Japan. There is a Starbucks right across the main drag from the McDonalds, here in my little village. One morning, while getting an EggMcM, I watched a woman in a Beemer in the drive-thru: she got a cup of McD coffee, and before she pulled out into traffic, she poured it in a Starbucks cup to drink on the way to work and on further, into the office. I know where this gal works, and watched this performance more than once. I've had some Starbucks coffee from beans my brother bought, never have been in the store. It tastes pretty good. Years ago, my now ex would insist we stop at Burger King for food and then drive to the McDonalds for coffee. Being a guy, I'd just get everything in one place and drive on. McDonalds does make a fairly good cup of coffee and their coffee cups are far more sturdy than Burger Kings. That matters when you are going camping and reuse the styrofoam cup for a few days Being a guy that is just cheap, I buy sleeves of 16 oz foam cups now, brew my own and take it to work. 25 cups is about 1.29 lids 1.59 per C. In these tough times, she had to cut a few expenses to make that beemer payment Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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"Wes" wrote: (clip) In these tough times, she had to cut a few expenses to make that beemer payment ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is it really a Beemer? I followed a Bugotti once for miles, which turned out to be a fibreglass shell on a VW. |
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"Leo Lichtman" wrote:
"Wes" wrote: (clip) In these tough times, she had to cut a few expenses to make that beemer payment ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is it really a Beemer? I followed a Bugotti once for miles, which turned out to be a fibreglass shell on a VW. Good point. We all know women tend to resort to all sorts of subterfuge to appear as something they are not. |
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Wes wrote:
"Leo Lichtman" wrote: "Wes" wrote: (clip) In these tough times, she had to cut a few expenses to make that beemer payment ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is it really a Beemer? I followed a Bugotti once for miles, which turned out to be a fibreglass shell on a VW. Good point. We all know women tend to resort to all sorts of subterfuge to appear as something they are not. ...Which a man would *never* do. --Winston -- 6'5", 25 years old, Independently wealthy, Clever and devilishly handsome. -- I'm still waiting for another sublime, transcendent flash of adequacy. |
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:37:07 -0800, the infamous Winston
scrawled the following: Wes wrote: "Leo Lichtman" wrote: "Wes" wrote: (clip) In these tough times, she had to cut a few expenses to make that beemer payment ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is it really a Beemer? I followed a Bugotti once for miles, which turned out to be a fibreglass shell on a VW. Good point. We all know women tend to resort to all sorts of subterfuge to appear as something they are not. ..Which a man would *never* do. --Winston -- 6'5", 25 years old, Independently wealthy, Clever and devilishly handsome. You forgot the "large feet/hands" thing for the ad, Winnie. Wimmens like those. -- Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. --Robert A. Heinlein |
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On Feb 20, 11:32*am, Wes wrote:
"Leo Lichtman" wrote: "Wes" wrote: *(clip) In these tough times, she had to cut a few expenses to make that beemer payment ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is it really a Beemer? *I followed a Bugotti once for miles, which turned out to be a fibreglass shell on a VW. Good point. *We all know women tend to resort to all sorts of subterfuge to appear as something they are not. And men don't? Laugh..laugh..laugh... TMT |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. I gotta break out some Heinlein soon, been long enough I forgot the plots. There was a real writer. Wes |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:00:35 -0500, the infamous Wes
scrawled the following: Larry Jaques wrote: Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. I gotta break out some Heinlein soon, been long enough I forgot the plots. There was a real writer. I agree wholeheartedly. Then do Larry Niven's 100 novels, following those up with Andre Norton's 100. g A friend just turned me on to S.M. Stirling. I'm halfway through the first book (_Dies The Fire_) of his Emberverse series. Since he co-authored books with Pournelle and Drake, I knew his work was high caliber before rentin' it from the local library. _Dies The Fire_ is like what's about to happen now (anarchy looms) but in the book, the Change happens when a bright flash is seen around the continent and all power goes down, batteries, too. Even gunpowder lowers its output to a fizzle. I'll glean more in the last half of the book + the other two volumes in the initial series. I'll likely end up reading everything ever written by him, too, even if he does have a very, very weird hairdo. -- Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. --Robert A. Heinlein |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
(....) --Winston -- 6'5", 25 years old, Independently wealthy, Clever and devilishly handsome. You forgot the "large feet/hands" thing for the ad, Winnie. Wimmens like those. You're confusing me here, Larry. I really *do* have large feet and hands. .....DoH! --Winston -- I'm still waiting for another sublime, transcendent flash of adequacy. |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:51:15 -0800, the infamous Winston
scrawled the following: Larry Jaques wrote: (....) --Winston -- 6'5", 25 years old, Independently wealthy, Clever and devilishly handsome. You forgot the "large feet/hands" thing for the ad, Winnie. Wimmens like those. You're confusing me here, Larry. I really *do* have large feet and hands. ....DoH! To women, those "key words" mean that you're well hung, so they'll fit right in with the rest of your lie^H^H^Hbrutal honesty. -- Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile I caught hell for. -- Earl Warren |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:51:15 -0800, the infamous Winston scrawled the following: Larry Jaques wrote: (....) --Winston -- 6'5", 25 years old, Independently wealthy, Clever and devilishly handsome. You forgot the "large feet/hands" thing for the ad, Winnie. Wimmens like those. You're confusing me here, Larry. I really *do* have large feet and hands. ....DoH! To women, those "key words" mean that you're well hung, so they'll fit right in with the rest of your lie^H^H^Hbrutal honesty. How Victorian! --Winston -- I'm still waiting for another sublime, transcendent flash of adequacy. |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:00:35 -0500, the infamous Wes scrawled the following: Larry Jaques wrote: Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. I gotta break out some Heinlein soon, been long enough I forgot the plots. There was a real writer. I agree wholeheartedly. Then do Larry Niven's 100 novels, following those up with Andre Norton's 100. g Larry is up to one hundred? Damn, I got some catching up. A friend just turned me on to S.M. Stirling. I'm halfway through the first book (_Dies The Fire_) of his Emberverse series. Since he co-authored books with Pournelle and Drake, I knew his work was high caliber before rentin' it from the local library. David Drake? Been a long time since I've read sci fi but that was an author I liked reading. _Dies The Fire_ is like what's about to happen now (anarchy looms) but in the book, the Change happens when a bright flash is seen around the continent and all power goes down, batteries, too. Even gunpowder lowers its output to a fizzle. I'll glean more in the last half of the book + the other two volumes in the initial series. I'll likely end up reading everything ever written by him, too, even if he does have a very, very weird hairdo. That sounds interesting. I think the last books I read in the scifi gender was some of the Turtledove alternate histories. Gunner would love those. Wish a Kindle was in the budget. Wes |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:10:23 -0500, Wes wrote:
David Drake? Been a long time since I've read sci fi but that was an author I liked reading. snip Wish a Kindle was in the budget. The Baen Free Library is marvellous. I much prefer real books but being on a small pension I can only afford about $50 per month for books so I really appreciate it.. I am currently reading "An Oblique Approach" by David Drake/Eric Flint - different to my usual choice but very enjoyable. Alan |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:10:23 -0500, the infamous Wes
scrawled the following: Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:00:35 -0500, the infamous Wes scrawled the following: Larry Jaques wrote: Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. I gotta break out some Heinlein soon, been long enough I forgot the plots. There was a real writer. I agree wholeheartedly. Then do Larry Niven's 100 novels, following those up with Andre Norton's 100. g Larry is up to one hundred? Damn, I got some catching up. Well, maybe not. This only lists 88: http://www.biblio.com/author_biograp...rry_Niven.html A friend just turned me on to S.M. Stirling. I'm halfway through the first book (_Dies The Fire_) of his Emberverse series. Since he co-authored books with Pournelle and Drake, I knew his work was high caliber before rentin' it from the local library. David Drake? Been a long time since I've read sci fi but that was an author I liked reading. A pair of Davids (Drake and Weber) beats a full house. _Dies The Fire_ is like what's about to happen now (anarchy looms) but in the book, the Change happens when a bright flash is seen around the continent and all power goes down, batteries, too. Even gunpowder lowers its output to a fizzle. I'll glean more in the last half of the book + the other two volumes in the initial series. I'll likely end up reading everything ever written by him, too, even if he does have a very, very weird hairdo. That sounds interesting. I think the last books I read in the scifi gender was some of the Turtledove alternate histories. Gunner would love those. Wish a Kindle was in the budget. The only problem is that the kindle books are all $10-$3,500 each. (Damn, Amazon took out the ability to sort by price since I last looked.) The scientific e-tomes were really high. -- Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile I caught hell for. -- Earl Warren |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:10:23 -0500, Wes wrote:
That sounds interesting. I think the last books I read in the scifi gender was some of the Turtledove alternate histories. Gunner would love those. G...I have most of them Gunner "Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every quality that morons esteem in their heroes."" |
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On Feb 23, 8:36*am, Larry Jaques
wrote: Good man! *Methinks it's time to reread the Ringworld series and Mote, his very best work. * Interesting how the Moties treated the engineering mentality as subhuman. |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:36:27 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:56:51 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch scrawled the following: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:10:23 -0500, Wes wrote: That sounds interesting. I think the last books I read in the scifi gender was some of the Turtledove alternate histories. Gunner would love those. Wes, I missed that originally. Sci-fi isn't sexist, so "genre" would have worked better there. heh heh heh G...I have most of them Good man! Methinks it's time to reread the Ringworld series and Mote, his very best work. I wonder how many of them are in my local library, which is no longer linked to the SOLIS network. sigh Ringworld, Children, and Engineers are all there, but no Mote. Waaah! I keep telling you...I have a couple terrabytes of Ebooks I can burn to DVD fror you. SciFi Military fiction and history, and TMs hell...all sorts of stuff, manuals, plans, etc etc etc Shrug Gunner "Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every quality that morons esteem in their heroes."" |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:15:37 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch
scrawled the following: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:36:27 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:56:51 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch scrawled the following: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:10:23 -0500, Wes wrote: That sounds interesting. I think the last books I read in the scifi gender was some of the Turtledove alternate histories. Gunner would love those. Wes, I missed that originally. Sci-fi isn't sexist, so "genre" would have worked better there. heh heh heh G...I have most of them Good man! Methinks it's time to reread the Ringworld series and Mote, his very best work. I wonder how many of them are in my local library, which is no longer linked to the SOLIS network. sigh Ringworld, Children, and Engineers are all there, but no Mote. Waaah! I keep telling you...I have a couple terrabytes of Ebooks I can burn to DVD fror you. SciFi Military fiction and history, and TMs hell...all sorts of stuff, manuals, plans, etc etc etc Great, put 'em in Kindle format and sent 'em with a Kindle! That might not stress my eyes like the computer screen does. Got a list for me to pick 'n choose from? I may take you up on the offer for manuals, plans, stuff stuff, y'know? Danke. --- Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the ultimate. --Chuang-tzu (369 BC - 286 BC) |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:25:17 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch
scrawled the following: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:41:26 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: Ringworld, Children, and Engineers are all there, but no Mote. Waaah! I keep telling you...I have a couple terrabytes of Ebooks I can burn to DVD fror you. SciFi Military fiction and history, and TMs hell...all sorts of stuff, manuals, plans, etc etc etc Great, put 'em in Kindle format and sent 'em with a Kindle! That might not stress my eyes like the computer screen does. Got a list for me to pick 'n choose from? I may take you up on the offer for manuals, plans, stuff stuff, y'know? Danke. Let me see what I can do about a listing. Negative on the Kindle btw. Ah dinna thin so. g Ver 2.0 appears to suck worse than the original version does, given all the reviews. Nearly as many hate it as love it. That's not a good sign. Not only is the thing way overpriced, the books for it are, too. I can buy 100 ex-libris copies of acid-free, library-bound hardcovers for the price of a Kindle and a handful of books for it. At that price, I'll never know whether or not e-ink is better than ebooks. shrug --- Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the ultimate. --Chuang-tzu (369 BC - 286 BC) |
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I got the Sony and it accepts text and pdf... :-)
So I never run out of books. Some are boring as heck - ever read a book in Latin ? - I don't mean a teaching book but a professional science book. UGH. I read pictures better. Some of it is known to me. Computer is best for that. Oh - just got down to 65 degrees! Going to be a cool night after all. [ Gunner - I have to look at stuff in the shop... ] [ I'll take pictures. Might have something you want!] Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:41:26 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:15:37 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch scrawled the following: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:36:27 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:56:51 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch scrawled the following: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:10:23 -0500, Wes wrote: That sounds interesting. I think the last books I read in the scifi gender was some of the Turtledove alternate histories. Gunner would love those. Wes, I missed that originally. Sci-fi isn't sexist, so "genre" would have worked better there. heh heh heh G...I have most of them Good man! Methinks it's time to reread the Ringworld series and Mote, his very best work. I wonder how many of them are in my local library, which is no longer linked to the SOLIS network. sigh Ringworld, Children, and Engineers are all there, but no Mote. Waaah! I keep telling you...I have a couple terrabytes of Ebooks I can burn to DVD fror you. SciFi Military fiction and history, and TMs hell...all sorts of stuff, manuals, plans, etc etc etc Great, put 'em in Kindle format and sent 'em with a Kindle! That might not stress my eyes like the computer screen does. Got a list for me to pick 'n choose from? I may take you up on the offer for manuals, plans, stuff stuff, y'know? Danke. Let me see what I can do about a listing. Negative on the Kindle btw. Ver 2.0 appears to suck worse than the original version does, given all the reviews. Gunner --- Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the ultimate. --Chuang-tzu (369 BC - 286 BC) "Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every quality that morons esteem in their heroes."" |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:45:22 -0600, the infamous "Martin H. Eastburn"
scrawled the following: I got the Sony and it accepts text and pdf... :-) What model? Is it using the e-ink technology? I'm curious as to how much better it might be for my eyes. My dueling astigmatisms don't like to stay on screens for too long, despite good correction. So I never run out of books. Some are boring as heck - ever read a book in Latin ? No, I don't read it. Do you? - I don't mean a teaching book but a professional science book. UGH. I read pictures better. Some of it is known to me. Computer is best for that. Grok that. A client once gave me a copy of his book on birding. It was 600+ pages of text, not one single picture--even on the dust cover! I guess, for a research scientist who already has lebenty seben gazillion pics, that still might be handy, but I'll guarantee that he didn't sell too many copies. Oh - just got down to 65 degrees! Going to be a cool night after all. Oh, no! Throw on a couple more blankies, mon. [ Gunner - I have to look at stuff in the shop... ] [ I'll take pictures. Might have something you want!] Like a mini-mill and mini-lathe? Cool! --- Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the ultimate. --Chuang-tzu (369 BC - 286 BC) |
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