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I had a copy of an old PM article on how to make terazzo.
I lost it when my computer died.
Not being able to find it anywhere now, was wondering if anyone knows of
this article, and is willing to make it available to me.

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I had a copy of an old PM article on how to make terazzo.
I lost it when my computer died.
Not being able to find it anywhere now, was wondering if anyone knows of
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You might try this
http://www.dexotex.com/download/Tab%...o%20L-303B.pdf
Hope it helps.
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Thanks Roger, that's an interesting brochure but doesn't have detailed
enough info.
The PM article I had explained how to make a slab of real terazzo
yourself, using cement as a base. It was a short article, only about
half a page I think, and gave the impression it's an easy home-made
thing to do.
I thought it'd be fun to try for a new kitchen I'm making, for part of
the bench.

Jordan


You might try this
http://www.dexotex.com/download/Tab%...o%20L-303B.pdf
Hope it helps.
Roger

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Try "fine Homebuilding" May 2008, #194

http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuilding/

Jordan wrote:
I had a copy of an old PM article on how to make terazzo.
I lost it when my computer died.
Not being able to find it anywhere now, was wondering if anyone knows of
this article, and is willing to make it available to me.

Jordan

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Thanks for the lead.
I searched for terazzo/terrazo/terrazzo on their subject index, but no go.
I see the issue you mention has a front page headline, "Amazing counter
tops". Does this have info on how to make terazzo?

Jordan

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Try "fine Homebuilding" May 2008, #194

http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuilding/



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On Oct 20, 2:32*am, Jordan wrote:
I had a copy of an old PM article on how to make terazzo.
I lost it when my computer died.
Not being able to find it anywhere now, was wondering if anyone knows of
this article, and is willing to make it available to me.

Jordan


Jordan, A dear old eccentric friend gave my wife and kids a set of
books that looks sort of like a set of encyclopedias. I haven't yet
found time to look at them closely, but they appear to be a bound,
multi-set compendium of old Popular Mechanics articles. If you can
clue me with a publication date for the article you seek it might be
inside these volumes. If so, and I can find it, I'll print and fax it
to you if you wish.

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I had a copy of an old PM article on how to make terazzo.
I lost it when my computer died.
Not being able to find it anywhere now, was wondering if anyone knows of
this article, and is willing to make it available to me.


From a specialty flooring supply.

It's colored marble chips as aggregate, mixed in colored concrete
with a certain sand as filler - but the devil is in the details. They
sell the specific materials, and you use them as directed. I'd invest
in a concrete vibrator to get all the air bubbles out, because that
void will always be at the worst possible spot.

And then you stash some extra materials away in buckets for the
inevitable damage patch. You can always get fresh concrete, but if
you don't have the same batch of marble chips and sand and colorant
{and a laminated recipe of the ratios you used stored with them} it
will never match. I've seen where they get close, but if you are
looking for the patch it pops out at you.

Then you rent the diamond wheel dressers and grind to finish. They
have tools for corners and coving.

I've also seen very nice warehouse store floors where they use the
same diamond dressing equipment and buff the plain concrete slab shiny
smooth, then hit it with a sealer and a floor wax.

No floor tile to wear out, and you can run forklifts around on it
all night and customers all day.

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You might try this
http://www.dexotex.com/download/Tab%...o%20L-303B.pdf
Hope it helps.
Roger


Thanks Roger, that's an interesting brochure but doesn't have detailed
enough info.
The PM article I had explained how to make a slab of real terazzo
yourself, using cement as a base. It was a short article, only about
half a page I think, and gave the impression it's an easy home-made
thing to do.
I thought it'd be fun to try for a new kitchen I'm making, for part of
the bench.


There's a reason I have a lot of paper files, with lots of
printouts in there. Unfortunately, finding anything specific ... I've
moved a lot, and the files which were "over there" are now in one of
the boxes in the other room.
And some of the printouts have faded. Makes it difficult to skim
through a pile. Have to read everything.

The worse thing is, I seem to recall reading the article you were
looking for, but where, when and what happened next ... don't ask me.
I haven't got a clue.


pyotr
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over walking into the saloon, because when I asked the bartender
whether they served zombies he said, ‘Sure, what'll you have?'"
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There's a reason I have a lot of paper files, with lots of
printouts in there. Unfortunately, finding anything specific ... I've
moved a lot, and the files which were "over there" are now in one of
the boxes in the other room.
And some of the printouts have faded. Makes it difficult to skim
through a pile. Have to read everything.

The worse thing is, I seem to recall reading the article you were
looking for, but where, when and what happened next ... don't ask me.
I haven't got a clue.

This is why the cubic capacity of the human brain needs to match the
square root of age.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
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Oops. that article was for the commercially available materials. One of
them had metal content
http://www.alkemi.com/products/colors_specs.html#
Anodized aluminum shavings

Do a search on the fine homebuilding site on 'concrete countertops'
brings up a fellow named Fu-Tung Cheng. He has a book on the subject,
check Amazon.com

Jordan wrote:

Thanks for the lead.
I searched for terazzo/terrazo/terrazzo on their subject index, but no go.
I see the issue you mention has a front page headline, "Amazing counter
tops". Does this have info on how to make terazzo?

Jordan

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Try "fine Homebuilding" May 2008, #194

http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuilding/



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I wonder what the certain sand is.
I only ever skimmed the article, before filing it away on the computer,
all lost now.
Thanks,
Jordan

Bruce L. Bergman wrote:

It's colored marble chips as aggregate, mixed in colored concrete
with a certain sand as filler - but the devil is in the details.

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Thanks Vernon, that's a kind offer.
Alas, I don't know the date. It seemed to be no later than 1950's, at a
guess.

Jordan


multi-set compendium of old Popular Mechanics articles. If you can
clue me with a publication date for the article you seek it might be
inside these volumes. If so, and I can find it, I'll print and fax it
to you if you wish.

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On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:22:00 -0700, pyotr filipivich
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There's a reason I have a lot of paper files, with lots of
printouts in there. Unfortunately, finding anything specific ... I've
moved a lot, and the files which were "over there" are now in one of
the boxes in the other room.
And some of the printouts have faded. Makes it difficult to skim
through a pile. Have to read everything.

The worse thing is, I seem to recall reading the article you were
looking for, but where, when and what happened next ... don't ask me.
I haven't got a clue.

This is why the cubic capacity of the human brain needs to match the
square root of age.


Its not the cubic capacity, it's the filing system. I've been
asked if I have a tool and I've responded, "Ya, in a toolbox, now
which toolbox and where is it?" (I had three:work, home and in
storage.)

I know I've seen it, now where was I when I saw it?

tschus
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over walking into the saloon, because when I asked the bartender
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Bruce L. Bergman wrote:


It's colored marble chips as aggregate, mixed in colored concrete
with a certain sand as filler - but the devil is in the details.


I wonder what the certain sand is.
I only ever skimmed the article, before filing it away on the computer,
all lost now.


Probably quartz sand, to get the sparkle and neutral color when it's
polished up at the surface.

You wouldn't want just beach sand from crushed up rocks, decomposed
granite is too irregular and uglified, and Silica Sand might raise
safety concerns during the finishing even though it's done wet.

If you wanted to experiment first, maybe use glass beads instead of
sand? The fine grade meant to be mixed into traffic striping paint as
retro-reflectors would make that counter top pop, especially if you
put in under cabinet lighting.

Trust me, when you find a regional supply house near you that stocks
the marble chip mix for making Terrazzo, I can guarantee they will
have the other needed materials and supplies there too. (Lumber Yards
always sell the nails you will need with the lumber.)

And they will sell the finishing gear, and either rent it out
themselves or know someplace local where it can be rented.

-- Bruce --

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I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that Gerald Miller
wrote on Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:46:58 -0400 in
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:22:00 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:


There's a reason I have a lot of paper files, with lots of
printouts in there. Unfortunately, finding anything specific ... I've
moved a lot, and the files which were "over there" are now in one of
the boxes in the other room.
And some of the printouts have faded. Makes it difficult to skim
through a pile. Have to read everything.

The worse thing is, I seem to recall reading the article you were
looking for, but where, when and what happened next ... don't ask me.
I haven't got a clue.

This is why the cubic capacity of the human brain needs to match the
square root of age.


Its not the cubic capacity, it's the filing system. I've been
asked if I have a tool and I've responded, "Ya, in a toolbox, now
which toolbox and where is it?" (I had three:work, home and in
storage.)

I know I've seen it, now where was I when I saw it?

tschus
pyotr

If I perfect the filing system, some of that wood that I have saved
from the late '50's will turn into diamonds. Incidentally, I just
found my "Puma white hunter" knife that I haven't seen in 20+ years.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada


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I wonder what the certain sand is.
I only ever skimmed the article, before filing it away on the computer,
all lost now.
Thanks,
Jordan

Bruce L. Bergman wrote:

It's colored marble chips as aggregate, mixed in colored concrete
with a certain sand as filler - but the devil is in the details.

Probably a white silica such as "Ottawa sand".
Gerry :-)}
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:09:39 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
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Probably quartz sand, to get the sparkle and neutral color when it's
polished up at the surface.

You wouldn't want just beach sand from crushed up rocks, decomposed
granite is too irregular and uglified, and Silica Sand might raise
safety concerns during the finishing even though it's done wet.


Quartz is silica.

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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:09:39 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
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Probably quartz sand, to get the sparkle and neutral color when it's
polished up at the surface.

You wouldn't want just beach sand from crushed up rocks, decomposed
granite is too irregular and uglified, and Silica Sand might raise
safety concerns during the finishing even though it's done wet.


Quartz is silica.


And concrete finishing is done WET, guys.

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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:46:23 -0400, the infamous Ned Simmons
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:09:39 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:


Probably quartz sand, to get the sparkle and neutral color when it's
polished up at the surface.

You wouldn't want just beach sand from crushed up rocks, decomposed
granite is too irregular and uglified, and Silica Sand might raise
safety concerns during the finishing even though it's done wet.


Quartz is silica.


And concrete finishing is done WET, guys.


You know it, I know it, but try to convince the Safety Nazis...
They see the word Silica and freak out. "We're All Gonna DIE!!!!!"

Yes, we are 'all gonna die' eventually - Nobody's found an exception
yet. But the odds say it'll most likely be of old age.

-- Bruce --

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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:12:35 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:46:23 -0400, the infamous Ned Simmons
scrawled the following:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:09:39 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:


Probably quartz sand, to get the sparkle and neutral color when it's
polished up at the surface.

You wouldn't want just beach sand from crushed up rocks, decomposed
granite is too irregular and uglified, and Silica Sand might raise
safety concerns during the finishing even though it's done wet.

Quartz is silica.


And concrete finishing is done WET, guys.


You know it, I know it, but try to convince the Safety Nazis...
They see the word Silica and freak out. "We're All Gonna DIE!!!!!"

Yes, we are 'all gonna die' eventually - Nobody's found an exception
yet. But the odds say it'll most likely be of old age.


One of my favorite quips is on that same eventuality.

"Life is a 100% fatal, sexually-transmitted disease."

--
"The latest documents released this week showed
that priests with drug, alcohol and sexual abuse
problems continued in the ministry as recently as
two years ago. That doesn't sound like a church,
it sounds like Congress with holy water." -Jay Leno


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Not being able to find it anywhere now, was wondering if anyone knows of this article, and is
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Jordan


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