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Title tells it all.

Peggy's columns lately have been conflicted about the election; usually
she clearly comes down on one side or the other.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122359863551021415.html

The Wall Street Journal, 11 October 2008 (print).

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Title tells it all.

Peggy's columns lately have been conflicted about the election; usually
she clearly comes down on one side or the other.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122359863551021415.html

The Wall Street Journal, 11 October 2008 (print).

Joe Gwinn


Just remember that if Peggy was still considered to be politically savvy,
she'd be advising or running somebody's campaign right now. Instead, she's
locked in political purgatory, trying to revive her credentials as an
iconoclast, a Sisyphus pushing rocks up the hill.

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Ed Huntress


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"Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message
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Title tells it all.

Peggy's columns lately have been conflicted about the election; usually
she clearly comes down on one side or the other.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122359863551021415.html

The Wall Street Journal, 11 October 2008 (print).

Joe Gwinn


Just remember that if Peggy was still considered to be politically savvy,
she'd be advising or running somebody's campaign right now. Instead, she's
locked in political purgatory, trying to revive her credentials as an
iconoclast, a Sisyphus pushing rocks up the hill.

=================
That's one explication.

Another is that she is even *MORE* politically savvy than those
running [and running in] the political campaigns and can see the
looming disaster of "more of the same only better," and "business
as usual," first in the financial sector, spreading to the
economy, and then into the social-political fabric.

What is not clear is if *ANY* large scale human
economic-organization/state can be "stable." The USSR collapsed,
Sweden came close to economic implosion, Iceland is in the
process of going down the tubes, the USA is nearing financial
melt-down. This is across the economic/governmental spectrum
from hard "left" to hard "right," from small to huge, from highly
homogeneous to highly diverse. Are we looking for a
"philosopher's stone" here?


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On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:54:55 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
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"Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message
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Title tells it all.

Peggy's columns lately have been conflicted about the election; usually
she clearly comes down on one side or the other.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122359863551021415.html

The Wall Street Journal, 11 October 2008 (print).

Joe Gwinn


Just remember that if Peggy was still considered to be politically savvy,
she'd be advising or running somebody's campaign right now. Instead, she's
locked in political purgatory, trying to revive her credentials as an
iconoclast, a Sisyphus pushing rocks up the hill.

=================
That's one explication.

Another is that she is even *MORE* politically savvy than those
running [and running in] the political campaigns and can see the
looming disaster of "more of the same only better," and "business
as usual," first in the financial sector, spreading to the
economy, and then into the social-political fabric.

What is not clear is if *ANY* large scale human
economic-organization/state can be "stable." The USSR collapsed,
Sweden came close to economic implosion, Iceland is in the
process of going down the tubes, the USA is nearing financial
melt-down. This is across the economic/governmental spectrum
from hard "left" to hard "right," from small to huge, from highly
homogeneous to highly diverse. Are we looking for a
"philosopher's stone" here?


If we're still talking about Peggy Noonan g, I've been watching her lately
and she seems increasingly random and erratic. I've always thought she was
over rated, but she's a good writer and conservative, and the Wall Street
Journal will take all of those they can get.

Otherwise, she seems like a waif in the wilderness -- not really where she
wants to be, but where she *can* be, given the circumstances.

Now, for the rest: Where is Iceland going, anyway?

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On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:58:56 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
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Now, for the rest: Where is Iceland going, anyway?

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Joining Atlantis. Too much undertow from their banks when they
sank.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ne...e-results&cd=1
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...-millions.html
and many more


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
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He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).


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The Wall Street Journal, 11 October 2008 (print).

Joe Gwinn


Just remember that if Peggy was still considered to be politically savvy,
she'd be advising or running somebody's campaign right now. Instead, she's
locked in political purgatory, trying to revive her credentials as an
iconoclast, a Sisyphus pushing rocks up the hill.

--
Ed Huntress


I saw her on Book TV today. She was very critical of Bush's administration
and was not the typical rah, rah, republican supporter she has been in the
past. I suspect she's not enamored with McCain. Many of the "real"
conservatives have never liked McCain, don't really want him in the White
House, and are demoralized by the failure of the Bush presidency. I like it!

Hawke


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