Here in Texas, if you give a false name - e.g. another persons name as yourself,
it is a felony and when found guilty a jail sentence is due. Serious stuff.
I found this out when a guy in town had xx DWI's and identified himself as
his brother. His brother (not present) complained when interviewed the next
day. The lying brother is spending 6 months in state jail.

Martin
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Ed Huntress wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message news:...
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
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You aren't required to carry ID anywhere. That isn't how this works.
What you are required to do is produce identification when requested by
duly
authorized personel.
The legal basis for this is that if you have acted in a manner that draws
attention, probable cause exists.
A lot of this has come about through changes in search and seizure
procedures regarding vehicles.
I've been following up since yesterday and I see that a Supreme Court case
from 2004 (HIIBEL v. SIXTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT OF NEVADA, HUMBOLDT
COUNTY, et al.) set the new standard. The police no longer need "probable
cause" to require identification. Now it's a "reasonable suspicion," which
is a lower standard. If a state requires that you show ID to a cop under
those circumstances, it can be a crime not to show it.

There are 18 states that require you to show it, but not showing it is not
a criminal offense in all of them. I don't know the status for federal
crimes, but Hiibel set the rule for state cases.

--
Ed Huntress

I read the Hiibel case and, contrary to what the analyses that I read said,
it appears that Hiibel did not determine that a person has to identify
himself with papers. It's clear from the Court's actual decision that the
case involved the defendent's refusal to *state* his name, not to show ID.

So it doesn't appear that this case sets a standard for how one has to
identify himself.

--
Ed Huntress




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