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Titanium Fuel Bottles
Titanium Fuel Bottles
To: alt.machines.cnc, rec.crafts.metalworking, rec.backcountry From: Newsgroups: rec.backcountry Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: Titanium Fuel Bottles Frank Schmidt wrote: Anyone know where I can find a .8 liter titanium bottle for my MSR Dragon fly?? AS you see (Frank Schmidt) is looking for a source of Titanium Fuel Bottles, of the design of the MSR Fuel Bottles. See: http://www.xs4all.nl/~sotty/country/...el_Bottle.html http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/bottles.asp The aluminum bottles are available at any local backpaking store, for $10 to $15. If anyone can provide an estimate or proposal to Frank Schmidt, perhaps, you can solve his problem. Since there is a shortage of supply, perhaps there is a market demand, for more titanium fuel bottles, so you can sell them on Ebay. What do you say? What'll it cost to spin them out on a lathe? :/ |
On 30 Mar 2005 04:25:56 -0800, "Halcitron" wrote:
Titanium Fuel Bottles To: alt.machines.cnc, rec.crafts.metalworking, rec.backcountry From: Newsgroups: rec.backcountry Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: Titanium Fuel Bottles Frank Schmidt wrote: Anyone know where I can find a .8 liter titanium bottle for my MSR Dragon fly?? AS you see (Frank Schmidt) is looking for a source of Titanium Fuel Bottles, of the design of the MSR Fuel Bottles. See: http://www.xs4all.nl/~sotty/country/...el_Bottle.html http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/bottles.asp The aluminum bottles are available at any local backpaking store, for $10 to $15. If anyone can provide an estimate or proposal to Frank Schmidt, perhaps, you can solve his problem. Since there is a shortage of supply, perhaps there is a market demand, for more titanium fuel bottles, so you can sell them on Ebay. What do you say? What'll it cost to spin them out on a lathe? :/ Better yet, make them from Titanium billet. -- Cliff |
To spin Titanium you need to heat the material to the superplastic
range. Can be done, but not readily by the HSM. Dan |
On 30 Mar 2005 07:29:01 -0800, "
wrote: To spin Titanium you need to heat the material to the superplastic range. Can be done, but not readily by the HSM. Might matter what the alloy was ..... Some can be hydroformed unheated. Still, "Made From 100% Pure Billet" sells better .... -- Cliff |
Cliff wrote:
Might matter what the alloy was ..... Some can be hydroformed unheated. And weld the neck and threads on? Still, "Made From 100% Pure Billet" sells better .... I doubt Harley riders are worried about weight. Ed Huesers http://www.grandshelters.com |
On 30 Mar 2005 04:25:56 -0800, "Halcitron" wrote:
Titanium Fuel Bottles To: alt.machines.cnc, rec.crafts.metalworking, rec.backcountry From: Newsgroups: rec.backcountry Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: Titanium Fuel Bottles Frank Schmidt wrote: Anyone know where I can find a .8 liter titanium bottle for my MSR Dragon fly?? AS you see (Frank Schmidt) is looking for a source of Titanium Fuel Bottles, of the design of the MSR Fuel Bottles. See: http://www.xs4all.nl/~sotty/country/...el_Bottle.html http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/bottles.asp The aluminum bottles are available at any local backpaking store, for $10 to $15. If anyone can provide an estimate or proposal to Frank Schmidt, perhaps, you can solve his problem. Since there is a shortage of supply, perhaps there is a market demand, for more titanium fuel bottles, so you can sell them on Ebay. What do you say? What'll it cost to spin them out on a lathe? Whats the wall thickness??probably can be spun on a cnc spinning machine in one piece and leave enough material in the neck to thread. We build custom spinning controls and have seen all types of material spun cold. Regards :/ Daveb |
DaveB wrote: On 30 Mar 2005 04:25:56 -0800, "Halcitron" wrote: Titanium Fuel Bottles To: alt.machines.cnc, rec.crafts.metalworking, rec.backcountry From: Newsgroups: rec.backcountry Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: Titanium Fuel Bottles Frank Schmidt wrote: Anyone know where I can find a .8 liter titanium bottle for my MSR Dragon fly?? AS you see (Frank Schmidt) is looking for a source of Titanium Fuel Bottles, of the design of the MSR Fuel Bottles. See: http://www.xs4all.nl/~sotty/country/...el_Bottle.html http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/bottles.asp The aluminum bottles are available at any local backpaking store, for $10 to $15. If anyone can provide an estimate or proposal to Frank Schmidt, perhaps, you can solve his problem. Since there is a shortage of supply, perhaps there is a market demand, for more titanium fuel bottles, so you can sell them on Ebay. What do you say? What'll it cost to spin them out on a lathe? Whats the wall thickness??probably can be spun on a cnc spinning machine in one piece and leave enough material in the neck to thread. Good idea. You can buy one of the aluminum style and cut it open. See: http://www.xs4all.nl/~sotty/co=ADunt..._=ADBottle.ht= ml http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/=ADbottles.asp The aluminum bottles are available at any local backpaking store, for $10 to $15. We build custom spinning controls and have seen all types of material spun cold. =20 Regards :/ =20 Daveb |
On 30 Mar 2005 07:29:01 -0800, "
wrote: To spin Titanium you need to heat the material to the superplastic range. Can be done, but not readily by the HSM. Dan You are 100% correct Regards Daveb |
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:51:39 -0700, Ed Huesers
wrote: Cliff wrote: Might matter what the alloy was ..... Some can be hydroformed unheated. And weld the neck and threads on? Electron beams might be handy. Still, "Made From 100% Pure Billet" sells better .... I doubt Harley riders are worried about weight. No dieters? ?? -- Cliff |
On 30 Mar 2005 13:02:00 -0800, "Halcitron" wrote:
What do you say? What'll it cost to spin them out on a lathe? Whats the wall thickness??probably can be spun on a cnc spinning machine in one piece and leave enough material in the neck to thread. Good idea. You can buy one of the aluminum style and cut it open. Where would you want to measure the thickness? -- Cliff |
Cliff wrote:
Still, "Made From 100% Pure Billet" sells better .... Ed Huesers wrote: I doubt Harley riders are worried about weight. Cliff wrote: No dieters? Naw, it's just the first time I ever heard it reffered to as "outta billet" was from a Harley guy when I made him an adapter for a break caliper. Probably in 77. I've only seen the real billet come by on trucks or trains. Ed Huesers http://www.grandshelters.com |
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:49:25 -0700, Ed Huesers
wrote: Cliff wrote: Still, "Made From 100% Pure Billet" sells better .... Ed Huesers wrote: I doubt Harley riders are worried about weight. Cliff wrote: No dieters? Naw, it's just the first time I ever heard it reffered to as "outta billet" was from a Harley guy when I made him an adapter for a break caliper. Probably in 77. I've only seen the real billet come by on trucks or trains. http://www.google.com/froogle?q=bill...Search+Froogle G -- Cliff |
Why would some one buy a Titanium bottle? There are many stainless steel
available just as good for storage, camping, hiking etc.... Would some one worry about the weight, it would come to consideration if used for transporting lot of them. But than aluminum is much cheaper to use. Gee! JS "Halcitron" wrote in message oups.com... Titanium Fuel Bottles To: alt.machines.cnc, rec.crafts.metalworking, rec.backcountry From: Newsgroups: rec.backcountry Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: Titanium Fuel Bottles Frank Schmidt wrote: Anyone know where I can find a .8 liter titanium bottle for my MSR Dragon fly?? AS you see (Frank Schmidt) is looking for a source of Titanium Fuel Bottles, of the design of the MSR Fuel Bottles. See: http://www.xs4all.nl/~sotty/country/...el_Bottle.html http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/bottles.asp The aluminum bottles are available at any local backpaking store, for $10 to $15. If anyone can provide an estimate or proposal to Frank Schmidt, perhaps, you can solve his problem. Since there is a shortage of supply, perhaps there is a market demand, for more titanium fuel bottles, so you can sell them on Ebay. What do you say? What'll it cost to spin them out on a lathe? :/ |
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:42:38 -0800, "Szaki"
wrote: Why would some one buy a Titanium bottle? There are many stainless steel available just as good for storage, camping, hiking etc.... Would some one worry about the weight, it would come to consideration if used for transporting lot of them. But than aluminum is much cheaper to use. Gee! JS For the same reason people buy "billet" stuff. NEVER overestimate the common sense of the average consumer. Gunner "Halcitron" wrote in message roups.com... Titanium Fuel Bottles To: alt.machines.cnc, rec.crafts.metalworking, rec.backcountry From: Newsgroups: rec.backcountry Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: Titanium Fuel Bottles Frank Schmidt wrote: Anyone know where I can find a .8 liter titanium bottle for my MSR Dragon fly?? AS you see (Frank Schmidt) is looking for a source of Titanium Fuel Bottles, of the design of the MSR Fuel Bottles. See: http://www.xs4all.nl/~sotty/country/...el_Bottle.html http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/bottles.asp The aluminum bottles are available at any local backpaking store, for $10 to $15. If anyone can provide an estimate or proposal to Frank Schmidt, perhaps, you can solve his problem. Since there is a shortage of supply, perhaps there is a market demand, for more titanium fuel bottles, so you can sell them on Ebay. What do you say? What'll it cost to spin them out on a lathe? :/ Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:31:53 GMT, Gunner
wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:42:38 -0800, "Szaki" wrote: Why would some one buy a Titanium bottle? There are many stainless steel available just as good for storage, camping, hiking etc.... Would some one worry about the weight, it would come to consideration if used for transporting lot of them. But than aluminum is much cheaper to use. Gee! JS For the same reason people buy "billet" stuff. NEVER overestimate the common sense of the average consumer. Good point. They might be wingers or neocons. -- Cliff |
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:15:42 -0500 (EST), Nocturnal Dragon
wrote: Cliff wrote: On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:31:53 GMT, Gunner wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:42:38 -0800, "Szaki" wrote: Why would some one buy a Titanium bottle? There are many stainless steel available just as good for storage, camping, hiking etc.... Would some one worry about the weight, it would come to consideration if used for transporting lot of them. But than aluminum is much cheaper to use. Gee! JS For the same reason people buy "billet" stuff. NEVER overestimate the common sense of the average consumer. Good point. They might be wingers or neocons. Wonder when Bob and Mary Schindler are going to pay us taxpayers back the many millions, if not billions of dollars they owe us from their pathetic, almost decade long escapade? "Terri Schiavo for U.S. President!" http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/3/28/7931/73144 -- Cliff |
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:15:42 -0500 (EST), Nocturnal Dragon
wrote: Cliff wrote: On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:31:53 GMT, Gunner wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:42:38 -0800, "Szaki" wrote: Why would some one buy a Titanium bottle? There are many stainless steel available just as good for storage, camping, hiking etc.... Would some one worry about the weight, it would come to consideration if used for transporting lot of them. But than aluminum is much cheaper to use. Gee! JS For the same reason people buy "billet" stuff. NEVER overestimate the common sense of the average consumer. Good point. They might be wingers or neocons. Wonder when Bob and Mary Schindler are going to pay us taxpayers back the many millions, if not billions of dollars they owe us from their pathetic, almost decade long escapade? Probably about the time the Kennedys, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the Liberals with their unfunded mandates, property siezures and anti middle class laws pay us back. Dont hold your breath. Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:15:42 -0500 (EST), Nocturnal Dragon wrote: Cliff wrote: On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:31:53 GMT, Gunner wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:42:38 -0800, "Szaki" wrote: Why would some one buy a Titanium bottle? There are many stainless steel available just as good for storage, camping, hiking etc.... Would some one worry about the weight, it would come to consideration if used for transporting lot of them. But than aluminum is much cheaper to use. Gee! JS For the same reason people buy "billet" stuff. NEVER overestimate the common sense of the average consumer. Good point. They might be wingers or neocons. Wonder when Bob and Mary Schindler are going to pay us taxpayers back the many millions, if not billions of dollars they owe us from their pathetic, almost decade long escapade? Probably about the time the Kennedys, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the Liberals with their unfunded mandates, property siezures and anti middle class laws pay us back. Dont hold your breath. Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 50 months into the biggest unfunded mandating Administration ever (and it's GOP rubber-stamp Congress) and this brain-dead loser is whining and sniveling and pouting about "libruls", and like a typical brain-dead dip**** manages to stupidly pin acts of Congress and the executive branch on two individuals who have never been part of either. Bush must be laughing his ass off, happily setting records for foisting responsibilities on states and cities and demanding that they foot the bill, all the while knowing that his slavishly obsequeious lackeys will endlessly cry and wail, "Libruls, libruls, libruls!"! Snivel on, loser ... Magpie |
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@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: 50 months into the biggest unfunded mandating Administration ever (and it's GOP rubber-stamp Congress) Name some of the unfunded mandates. They are as best as I can remember No Child Left Behind, tougher environmental laws, clamp down on illegal immigrants, provide health care for the uninsured, and fix the voting systems. Did I miss any? The libs favorite seems to be the "No Child Left Behind" act. Left to these complaining idiots, we have had years of kids with learning disabilities being shuffled through school recieving little or no education unless you want to battle the school district in court. Now school districts are actually required to educate them. Boo frickin hoo. Why should the federal government pay for a mandate that requires that ALL kids get an education? The cost should be paid by the local communities. After all that's where the kids live, right? The act also leaves it up to the local community whether or not they want to comply. If they don't want to provide an education for EVERY kid, they can simply stop accepting federal money. Simple. Here's a link that you might find enlightening.http://www.wrightslaw.com/nclb/ The No Child Left Behind Act is good law. But Bush haters don't care about disabled kids as far as I can tell. Here's a quote for you from Gerald Connely (D) Virginia complaining about his state having to round up illegal immigrants, comply with tougher evirnmental laws, and actualy have to educate children, (the horror of it all): ["You're asking local taxpayers to bear the burden of your good intentions," Connolly (D), also president of the Virginia Association of Counties, told members of the House Committee on Government Reform. "Anything you make us do that you don't fully fund is an unfunded mandate." ] Idiot. The costs are created locally they should be paid for locally. Maybe people would pay more attention to what's going on in their own communities if they lose federal funding because the schools aren't educating all of the kids. Let the locals pick up the tab for clean air and water, and they might be more interested in the big polluters in their town. Idiots like Connely think that there is some big money tree that can be shook in Washington and free money falls off of it. The reality is that much needed money is drained away from urban areas and redistributed to suburban and rural ones when mandates are "funded" by Washington. -- Dan |
In article , Gunner says...
Its about time that the Feral Government started handing back to the States their rights and duties. Well you sure missed the boat on *that* one. Didn't you hear, your prez and tom delay are gonna start impeaching state judges because they don't toe the washington line? Sounds like the federal goobermint is outa control *again*. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
On 2 Apr 2005 21:13:39 -0800, jim rozen
wrote: In article , Gunner says... Its about time that the Feral Government started handing back to the States their rights and duties. Well you sure missed the boat on *that* one. Didn't you hear, your prez and tom delay are gonna start impeaching state judges because they don't toe the washington line? Sounds like the federal goobermint is outa control *again*. Jim Actually, you are (again) wrong. The judges in question, are out of control and making law, which is NOT their duty...and in fact is contraindicated. Its called making them toe the law..and making them accountable for their actions. Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 03:54:30 GMT, Gunner
wrote: Really want me to start naming off leftwing unfunded mandates? I can you know...Starting with that rat ******* Demonrat Lyndon Baines Johnsons Great Society..and going from there. He tried to make you attend school & get an education and you have resented it ever since? Considered joining the US armed forces so that you can kill people? -- Cliff |
On 3 Apr 2005 04:16:43 GMT, D Murphy wrote:
provide health care for the uninsured, ?? What's that one? Gunner does not have to pay? -- Cliff |
On 30 Mar 2005 04:25:56 -0800, "Halcitron" wrote:
What do you say? What'll it cost to spin them out on a lathe? Titanium? *giggle* |
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