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(semi-OT): How did this ship ever make it across the Pacific?
This is one of those "can you believe this" pictures....the ship is
currently stuck off the Golden Gate, waiting for seas to die down enough to lower the cranes' top beams, so it will fit under the bridge. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object...es0404.DTL&o=0 Can you imagine sailing that across the big ocean???? Regards, Bob |
"Bob" wrote in message oups.com... This is one of those "can you believe this" pictures....the ship is currently stuck off the Golden Gate, waiting for seas to die down enough to lower the cranes' top beams, so it will fit under the bridge. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object...es0404.DTL&o=0 Can you imagine sailing that across the big ocean???? Regards, Bob Just think of the ballast weight that it would need in the hold to compensate! Lane |
That isn't one ship, it's *two*. They may be linked in such a way as
to provide exceptional resistance to rolling. - GWE Lane wrote: "Bob" wrote in message oups.com... This is one of those "can you believe this" pictures....the ship is currently stuck off the Golden Gate, waiting for seas to die down enough to lower the cranes' top beams, so it will fit under the bridge. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object...es0404.DTL&o=0 Can you imagine sailing that across the big ocean???? Regards, Bob Just think of the ballast weight that it would need in the hold to compensate! Lane |
"Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... That isn't one ship, it's *two*. They may be linked in such a way as to provide exceptional resistance to rolling. - GWE Grant The picture caption says;"the vessel Zhen Hua 1" indicating one vessel. Plus that is all I see in the picture. Here are more web posts about it, and they all mention just one vessel: http://www.flutterby.com/archives/20...neArrival.html http://www.portofoakland.com/maritime/pres_05.asp http://goldengate.org/news/c/CranesGGB.html http://www.timesstar.com/Stories/0,1...586339,00.html Lane |
That is a Hundai Heavy Industries crane transporter with a load of container
cranes. They will be unloading more stuff for Wallmart to sell. Hundai builds them in Korea and ships them in one piece all over the world. When they get along side the warf where the cranes will be installed the ballast is adjusted to raise or lower the ship so the cranes can just roll off onto the rail tracks that they will work on. I watched the process at the Wando terminal in Charleston. Really something to see. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com "Bob" wrote in message oups.com... This is one of those "can you believe this" pictures....the ship is currently stuck off the Golden Gate, waiting for seas to die down enough to lower the cranes' top beams, so it will fit under the bridge. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object...es0404.DTL&o=0 Can you imagine sailing that across the big ocean???? Regards, Bob |
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 13:14:22 -0800, Grant Erwin
wrote: That isn't one ship, it's *two*. They may be linked in such a way as to provide exceptional resistance to rolling. - GWE Are you sure about that? It looks like a ship I saw that floods the ballast tanks to lower the deck below the waterline so that other floating things, like ships or oil drilling platforms, can be positioned over the deck. Then the thing pumps out the water and rises with the cargo. ERS Lane wrote: "Bob" wrote in message oups.com... This is one of those "can you believe this" pictures....the ship is currently stuck off the Golden Gate, waiting for seas to die down enough to lower the cranes' top beams, so it will fit under the bridge. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object...es0404.DTL&o=0 Can you imagine sailing that across the big ocean???? Regards, Bob Just think of the ballast weight that it would need in the hold to compensate! Lane |
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 13:14:22 -0800, the renowned Grant Erwin
wrote: That isn't one ship, it's *two*. They may be linked in such a way as to provide exceptional resistance to rolling. - GWE http://www.navyleague.org/seapower/august2000/feege.htm A sister vessel got in a bit of trouble in a hurricane delivering similar cranes to Norfolk. . https://mscs.marad.dot.gov/clips/8-2...from %20China And they've delivered them to Portland The $45 million contract for eight cranes will be completed next August when four more cranes arrive from Shanghai Zhenhua Port Machinery Co., the world's largest container crane manufacturer. The crane's speed and ability to lift more than 145,600 pounds at a time--up from 112,000 pounds--will increase efficiency, port officials said. "We're going to need the taller cranes with longer booms because these ships are huge," said Ed Brown, who oversees 1,800 local port workers as a vice president of the International Longshoreman's Association. "They're like big warehouses." The Zhen Hua 1 departed Shanghai, China, sailed purposely slow to keep the awkward ship balanced. For stability, the legs of the cranes are welded to the deck of the ship and the tops are connected using multiple cables. http://www.cunninghamreport.com/ The Port of Oakland will be getting two new ZPMC super post-Panamax cranes this week. The Zhen Hua 1, which dropped off two similar cranes in Long Beach last week, is expected to arrive in the Bay Area on Tuesday. http://vanewswire.com/issues/issue89.htm The Chinese vessel, Zhen Hua 1, pictured here leaving Shanghai, has delivered four Suez-class cranes to Norfolk. The 273-foot monsters, the largest container cranes in the world, will equip Virginia's ports to handle the next generation of super-container ship. The ship arrived last week. http://www.poal.co.nz/newsroom/2002_...anes250302.htm I guess this is another sister vessel: "The Zhen Hua 2 is a specialist vessel converted for her crane delivery work. Most of her holds have been converted to big tanks for ballasting. The tanks are filled with ballast water to take the heavy weight of the cranes on deck – a total of over 2,000 tonnes plus the weight of braces and other heavy equipment. The cranes are welded to the deck and braced with metal beams." 1093 tonnes of steel each... I guess that's where some of that steel is going. Lane wrote: "Bob" wrote in message oups.com... This is one of those "can you believe this" pictures....the ship is currently stuck off the Golden Gate, waiting for seas to die down enough to lower the cranes' top beams, so it will fit under th e bridge. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object...es0404.DTL&o=0 Can you imagine sailing that across the big ocean???? Regards, Bob Just think of the ballast weight that it would need in the hold to compensate! Lane Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
On 4 Mar 2005 12:07:23 -0800, the inscrutable "Bob"
spake: This is one of those "can you believe this" pictures....the ship is currently stuck off the Golden Gate, waiting for seas to die down enough to lower the cranes' top beams, so it will fit under the bridge. I've both driven and walked (partway) across that bridge and it's a helluva long way down to the water. Isn't the Newport News crane something like 560' tall? It definitely wouldn't fit under. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object...es0404.DTL&o=0 Can you imagine sailing that across the big ocean???? Hoo, boy! Don't get that one rockin'! ================================================== ======== Save the ||| http://diversify.com Endangered SKEETS! ||| Web Application Programming ================================================== ======== |
Hey, we have our own ungainly looking vehicle that runs around the
ocean -- check out the launch platform for SeaLaunch http://www.sea-launch.com/ A converted oil platform that is homebased in Long Beach, Ca and we run out to the equator to launch the rockets. The thing is huge ! Sort of sits on what looks like two submarines ! mikey "Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... That isn't one ship, it's *two*. They may be linked in such a way as to provide exceptional resistance to rolling. - GWE Lane wrote: "Bob" wrote in message oups.com... This is one of those "can you believe this" pictures....the ship is currently stuck off the Golden Gate, waiting for seas to die down enough to lower the cranes' top beams, so it will fit under the bridge. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object...archive/2005/0 3/04/cranes0404.DTL&o=0 Can you imagine sailing that across the big ocean???? Regards, Bob Just think of the ballast weight that it would need in the hold to compensate! Lane |
The Golden Gate bridge has about 220 feet of clearance at low tide. The USS
ENTERPRISE, standing 214 feet tall, clears it by six feet. Jerry "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On 4 Mar 2005 12:07:23 -0800, the inscrutable "Bob" spake: This is one of those "can you believe this" pictures....the ship is currently stuck off the Golden Gate, waiting for seas to die down enough to lower the cranes' top beams, so it will fit under the bridge. I've both driven and walked (partway) across that bridge and it's a helluva long way down to the water. Isn't the Newport News crane something like 560' tall? It definitely wouldn't fit under. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object...rchive/2005/03 /04/cranes0404.DTL&o=0 Can you imagine sailing that across the big ocean???? Hoo, boy! Don't get that one rockin'! ================================================== ======== Save the ||| http://diversify.com Endangered SKEETS! ||| Web Application Programming ================================================== ======== |
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... I've both driven and walked (partway) across that bridge and it's a helluva long way down to the water. Isn't the Newport News crane something like 560' tall? It definitely wouldn't fit under. I drove across it ... in a vintage Mini Cooper. Imported from Sicily. :^) (My brother's car BTW... he took it back with him.) Tim -- "California is the breakfast state: fruits, nuts and flakes." Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms |
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"Glenn Ashmore" wrote: That is a Hundai Heavy Industries crane transporter with a load of container cranes. They will be unloading more stuff for Wallmart to sell. Hundai builds them in Korea and ships them in one piece all over the world. When they get along side the warf where the cranes will be installed the ballast is adjusted to raise or lower the ship so the cranes can just roll off onto the rail tracks that they will work on. I watched the process at the Wando terminal in Charleston. Really something to see. I saw an operation like that on (I think) the learning channel. They had little five-foot-long chunks of track they hooked between the ship's deck and the dock, then welded tracks down all the way from there to the permanent tracks for the cranes. I'll bet it's quite a scrotum-tightening experience for everyone involved when they start rolling 'em off. Right up there with cherry-picking the top of an off-shore drilling rig onto the base. I'd love to work around that sort of crap. -- B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail dot net http://web2.airmail.net/thegoat4/ |
Tim Williams wrote:
I drove across it ... in a vintage Mini Cooper. Imported from Sicily. :^) (My brother's car BTW... he took it back with him.) So that is what happened to the cars from the italian job!. |
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 13:14:22 -0800, Grant Erwin
wrote: That isn't one ship, it's *two*. They may be linked in such a way as to provide exceptional resistance to rolling. - GWE The Ports of Auckland (New Zealand) got a couple of these cranes a couple of years or so back. Damn impressive to see arriving in port. They had to dredge out the harbour beside the wharf, then "sunk" the ship and rolled them into place. I suspect it was a bit more difficult than it sounds, but it didn't take long. I can't recall the cost, but they weren't bad value for money, given how much steel you get. Geoff |
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