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Do I need an oiler/filter/regulator?
It's a filter/regulator. You don't really need an oiler unless you plan
to run air tools nonstop and don't want to bother oiling them manually. I'd just use what you have. No, this isn't "just suited for painting". Real painting takes a serious air dryer, one which refrigerates the air. What you have is just for regular use. - GWE Ignoramus10062 wrote: My compressor has this piece: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Curt.../03_Regulator/ It was included in the sale. Please forgive my extreme ignorance in asking this question, but I am not sure what it does. It seems to be a pressure regulator and perhaps air cleaner. Has an opening in the bottom for a drain valve (I put in a ball valve there). Looks like it is most suited for spray painting, which I won't do a lot of. What appears to me, is that this piece seems to be better suited for painting, and what I need is a filter/oiler/pressure regulator. Is that right? If so, which one would you recommend? I would like to buy something nice. i |
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Just put a few drops of air tool oil in via the air hose connection.
Joe.. "Ignoramus10062" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:37:11 -0800, Grant Erwin wrote: It's a filter/regulator. You don't really need an oiler unless you plan to run air tools nonstop and don't want to bother oiling them manually. I'd just use what you have. Hm, thanks. I am a little confused, I have an HF sander and its manual says to use an oiler. It does not seem to have an oiling port of any sort. I guess that I will look harder. i No, this isn't "just suited for painting". Real painting takes a serious air dryer, one which refrigerates the air. What you have is just for regular use. - GWE Ignoramus10062 wrote: My compressor has this piece: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Curt.../03_Regulator/ It was included in the sale. Please forgive my extreme ignorance in asking this question, but I am not sure what it does. It seems to be a pressure regulator and perhaps air cleaner. Has an opening in the bottom for a drain valve (I put in a ball valve there). Looks like it is most suited for spray painting, which I won't do a lot of. What appears to me, is that this piece seems to be better suited for painting, and what I need is a filter/oiler/pressure regulator. Is that right? If so, which one would you recommend? I would like to buy something nice. i -- |
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You need a regulator, a filter perhaps, but you do not need an oiler! If you
get heavy into air tools a drop or two of oil in the air fitting of the tool is all you need. Why inject oil into your whole system? You may want to paint someday but you air lines may be spitting out oil! Not good for painting!! Get a regulator and set it at 100 PSI, plenty pressure for general work. Greg |
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On 28 Feb 2005 00:48:59 GMT, Ignoramus10062
wrote: Hm, thanks. I am a little confused, I have an HF sander and its manual says to use an oiler. It does not seem to have an oiling port of any sort. I guess that I will look harder. My $12 die grinder instruction sheet recommends two drops of oil in the inlet daily rather than use an oiler Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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On 28 Feb 2005 00:48:59 GMT, Ignoramus10062
wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:37:11 -0800, Grant Erwin wrote: It's a filter/regulator. You don't really need an oiler unless you plan to run air tools nonstop and don't want to bother oiling them manually. I'd just use what you have. Hm, thanks. I am a little confused, I have an HF sander and its manual says to use an oiler. It does not seem to have an oiling port of any sort. I guess that I will look harder. For air tools without an inline oiler installed, you follow the tool instructions (Wow, what a concept!) ;-0 to disconnect the air hose at the tool and put 3 - 4 - 5 drops (whatever they call for) of air tool oil in the air inlet QD fitting once a day, twice if you're working it hard. Then reconnect the air line and go to work. If you hook up a filter/regulator/lubricator in line with an air outlet, it meters a bit of oil into the airflow past that point, you adjust it for a drop every 1 - 2 minutes while the tool is running. (Per the instructions.) One HUGE problem - now all your hoses used past that lubrication point now have a film of air tool oil inside them. If you ever try using those hoses or that air source for blow-gun cleaning something critical, or spray painting, the oil will carry through (doesn't take much) and you just made a big fish-eyed mess of that paint. If you are fastidious about having one set of hoses for air tools with oil in them, and another set of hoses (a different color) for painting and blow-guns without oil, that can work. But as a practical matter it'll never work, because someone who either isn't clued in about your system or just doesn't care (Pointy-Haired Boss, employees, interns, SWMBO, kids, parents, neighbors) is going to screw it up. Myself, I can put a few drops of oil in the tools by hand just as easily. If I ever install a lubricator at home, it'll either be for a piece of stationary equipment, or that air outlet and any oiled hoses will be LOCKED UP between uses. -- Bruce -- -- Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700 5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545 Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net. |
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a good idea is to either:
1. permanently affix a length of hose to each air tool, so it can get oily inside and not matter, or 2. use different connectors (quick disconnect) for oil-air and dry clean air hoses One HUGE problem - now all your hoses used past that lubrication point now have a film of air tool oil inside them. If you ever try using those hoses or that air source for blow-gun cleaning something critical, or spray painting, the oil will carry through (doesn't take much) and you just made a big fish-eyed mess of that paint. If you are fastidious about having one set of hoses for air tools with oil in them, and another set of hoses (a different color) for painting and blow-guns without oil, that can work. But as a practical matter it'll never work, because someone who either isn't clued in about your system or just doesn't care (Pointy-Haired Boss, employees, interns, SWMBO, kids, parents, neighbors) is going to screw it up. Myself, I can put a few drops of oil in the tools by hand just as easily. If I ever install a lubricator at home, it'll either be for a piece of stationary equipment, or that air outlet and any oiled hoses will be LOCKED UP between uses. -- Bruce -- -- Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700 5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545 Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net. |
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Ignoramus10062 wrote in news:cvtmmu
: My compressor has this piece: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Curt.../03_Regulator/ It was included in the sale. Please forgive my extreme ignorance in asking this question, but I am not sure what it does. It seems to be a pressure regulator and perhaps air cleaner. Has an opening in the bottom for a drain valve (I put in a ball valve there). Looks like it is most suited for spray painting, which I won't do a lot of. What appears to me, is that this piece seems to be better suited for painting, and what I need is a filter/oiler/pressure regulator. Is that right? If so, which one would you recommend? I would like to buy something nice. i Yes, that appears to be a filter for painting. I strongly suggest you purchase a Parker 070 series FRL (Filter/Regulator/Lubricator) if you will be using this with air tools. This Parker unit will be modularized, the oiler can be filled safely without shutting off the compressed air, and the full kit comes with a lock-out type shut off/pressure dump valve. Mounts are sold separately, but are not expensive. You should be able to get the whole set-up for $200 retail. This is a very durable metal bowl type FRL, not the plastic stuff normally found. -- Anthony You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make better idiots. Remove sp to reply via email |
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You can put an oiler at the tool itself:
http://www.jackxchange.com/products/3000.cfm Just remember to fill it every 3 months or so. Ignoramus10062 wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:37:11 -0800, Grant Erwin wrote: It's a filter/regulator. You don't really need an oiler unless you plan to run air tools nonstop and don't want to bother oiling them manually. I'd just use what you have. Hm, thanks. I am a little confused, I have an HF sander and its manual says to use an oiler. It does not seem to have an oiling port of any sort. I guess that I will look harder. i No, this isn't "just suited for painting". Real painting takes a serious air dryer, one which refrigerates the air. What you have is just for regular use. - GWE Ignoramus10062 wrote: My compressor has this piece: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Curt.../03_Regulator/ It was included in the sale. Please forgive my extreme ignorance in asking this question, but I am not sure what it does. It seems to be a pressure regulator and perhaps air cleaner. Has an opening in the bottom for a drain valve (I put in a ball valve there). Looks like it is most suited for spray painting, which I won't do a lot of. What appears to me, is that this piece seems to be better suited for painting, and what I need is a filter/oiler/pressure regulator. Is that right? If so, which one would you recommend? I would like to buy something nice. i |
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Tim Killian wrote: You can put an oiler at the tool itself: http://www.jackxchange.com/products/3000.cfm Just remember to fill it every 3 months or so. This is the sort I use, I have a male quick connect coupler on one end and a female on the other. My air tools all have short whip hoses, all the instructions say not to directly connect fittings right to the tool. This way I can use the same hose for air tools as for spray painting with no oil contamination. If I need a little more flexibility, I can just add oil directly to the tool whip and skip attaching the oiler. You have to be careful with what oilers you do buy, some of the sort that HF carries leak, badly. Other brands that look identical, don't. Stan |
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