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Recently someone here pointed out that hexagonal dies are for
rethreading and that the OP needed the round die for his
threading application.

Are there also two types of taps, threading and rethreading?


You can make a rethreading tap EZ by cutting a slot in a bolt or
grinding the end to a suitable shape

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Australopithecus scobis wrote:
Greetings,
Recently someone here pointed out that hexagonal dies are for
rethreading and that the OP needed the round die for his
threading application.

Are there also two types of taps, threading and rethreading?

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Two types of taps: good ones and junk ones. Junk ones are the HF
imports and similar no-names, marked "tungsten steel" or "titanium".
Good ones are bought from an industrial supplier, MSC, J&L Industrial
and the like, marked Greenfield or Chicago Latrob, something with a
real name, and are properly ground and hardened. The ones formerly
marked Hansen(now Irwin) that you can pick up on a Sunday afternoon at
the local hardware store are what I'd consider the low end of
acceptable. Emergency use only.

Stan

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Australopithecus scobis wrote:
Greetings,
Recently someone here pointed out that hexagonal dies are for
rethreading and that the OP needed the round die for his
threading application.

Are there also two types of taps, threading and rethreading?


As for taps, not to my knowledge. It's a good use for taps that are
already too worn to cut new threads dependably. The rust and other gunk
typically on a used thread wears a good tap or die considerably, thus
it's not advisable to use them for this purpose if you don't have to.

As for dies, it USED to be that hex dies were for rethreading. Rethread
dies are the same size as the common nut for that size thread, and can
be turned easily with the same wrenches. Their proportions are thus
'fatter' (thicker with smaller diameter) than a standard die.

Now there are hex dies intended for primary threading. These are usually
at the low end of the quality spectrum, and mostly sold at hardware
stores and home centers. These hex threading dies are larger than
rethread dies, about the same size as regular round dies, and about the
same thickness. Thus they are more 'plate like', larger diameter and
thinner in proportion than rethread dies.

Dan Mitchell
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Don't be to sure they will do the job you want. Just wait until the 3/8
tap snaps because you put too much torque on it and the pointed remains
open a 6in. would in your arm! Spend the money on a good set and
replace the tap when it gets dull.

Been there and have the scar to prove it.

Paul

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