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Dave Mundt
 
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Greetings and Salutations...
Well, just saw a short story on CNN, with
some kind of breathless reporting about one of their
guys who went out on the Net, and found a private
seller of 50 cal rifles...and BOUGHT one! They
were also surprised that it was possible to order
ammunition over the Net and have UPS show up with
it in a little bit.
Of course, they took the rifle out and
blew some holes in an aircraft door and a 1" thick
panel of steel, to proof how dangerous a weapon
it was.
I will say that, in their favor, they
did mention in passing that a) the gun had NEVER
been used domestically in a crime, b) It IS legal
to buy and sell them privately, and to purchase
ammunition, and, c) that even if one were to
shoot an airliner, it was not actually
all that likely to cause a crash.
Still...it seemed pretty supportive of the
congresscritter who wants to ban the weapons entirely,
and, that continuing erosion of our 2d amendment
rights worries me. They also pretty much ignored
the fact that this is one heavy weapon, and, it is
a LOT harder to hit a moving target than it is
to pull the trigger on a fixed target, on a
bench rest, on a closed range. But, hey, I
am probably just quibbling *smile*.
Ok...this has metalworking content,
as there are some interesting shots of some of the
manufacturing steps going on to build the gun.
Interesting stuff.
Regards
dave mundt
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Don Foreman
 
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 07:31:43 GMT, (Dave Mundt) wrote:

Greetings and Salutations...
Well, just saw a short story on CNN, with
some kind of breathless reporting about one of their
guys who went out on the Net, and found a private
seller of 50 cal rifles...and BOUGHT one! They
were also surprised that it was possible to order
ammunition over the Net and have UPS show up with
it in a little bit.
Of course, they took the rifle out and
blew some holes in an aircraft door and a 1" thick
panel of steel, to proof how dangerous a weapon
it was.
I will say that, in their favor, they
did mention in passing that a) the gun had NEVER
been used domestically in a crime, b) It IS legal
to buy and sell them privately, and to purchase
ammunition, and, c) that even if one were to
shoot an airliner, it was not actually
all that likely to cause a crash.
Still...it seemed pretty supportive of the
congresscritter who wants to ban the weapons entirely,
and, that continuing erosion of our 2d amendment
rights worries me. They also pretty much ignored
the fact that this is one heavy weapon, and, it is
a LOT harder to hit a moving target than it is
to pull the trigger on a fixed target, on a
bench rest, on a closed range. But, hey, I
am probably just quibbling *smile*.
Ok...this has metalworking content,
as there are some interesting shots of some of the
manufacturing steps going on to build the gun.
Interesting stuff.


Shoot your gun, pound your pud whatever turns your crank. Must you
bang your antlers and bleat so loudly to draw attention?

Please consider gathering arms as you feel necessary, and shut the
hell up about it. Suggested diversion: work on your design for a
pistol that fires a .50 BMG round......
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Gunner
 
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:29:20 -0600, Don Foreman
wrote:

manufacturing steps going on to build the gun.
Interesting stuff.


Shoot your gun, pound your pud whatever turns your crank. Must you
bang your antlers and bleat so loudly to draw attention?

Please consider gathering arms as you feel necessary, and shut the
hell up about it. Suggested diversion: work on your design for a
pistol that fires a .50 BMG round......


Whats the matter Don, scared by a cap pistol when you were in your
crib?

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"
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These .50s SHOULD be banned...I can't afford one. (I want a .454 Casull
untill I can get a Barrett)


"Dave Mundt" wrote in message
...
Greetings and Salutations...
Well, just saw a short story on CNN, with
some kind of breathless reporting about one of their
guys who went out on the Net, and found a private
seller of 50 cal rifles...and BOUGHT one! They
were also surprised that it was possible to order
ammunition over the Net and have UPS show up with
it in a little bit.
Of course, they took the rifle out and
blew some holes in an aircraft door and a 1" thick
panel of steel, to proof how dangerous a weapon
it was.
I will say that, in their favor, they
did mention in passing that a) the gun had NEVER
been used domestically in a crime, b) It IS legal
to buy and sell them privately, and to purchase
ammunition, and, c) that even if one were to
shoot an airliner, it was not actually
all that likely to cause a crash.
Still...it seemed pretty supportive of the
congresscritter who wants to ban the weapons entirely,
and, that continuing erosion of our 2d amendment
rights worries me. They also pretty much ignored
the fact that this is one heavy weapon, and, it is
a LOT harder to hit a moving target than it is
to pull the trigger on a fixed target, on a
bench rest, on a closed range. But, hey, I
am probably just quibbling *smile*.
Ok...this has metalworking content,
as there are some interesting shots of some of the
manufacturing steps going on to build the gun.
Interesting stuff.
Regards
dave mundt



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"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
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These .50s SHOULD be banned...I can't afford one. (I want a .454 Casull
untill I can get a Barrett)



I go ATVing in areas that used to be used for training during WW2. We find
live .50 cal rounds all of the time. They look cool cleaned up. We find
thousands of casings and bullets, and occasionally one that has hit
something hard. They look incredible once they have hit something really
hard. They have an armor piercing core that stays pristine while the
copper/lead jacket peels back. Nasty looking.

Steve


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Rick Cook
 
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Dave Mundt wrote:
Greetings and Salutations...
Well, just saw a short story on CNN, with
some kind of breathless reporting about one of their
guys who went out on the Net, and found a private
seller of 50 cal rifles...and BOUGHT one! They
were also surprised that it was possible to order
ammunition over the Net and have UPS show up with
it in a little bit.
Of course, they took the rifle out and
blew some holes in an aircraft door and a 1" thick
panel of steel, to proof how dangerous a weapon
it was.
I will say that, in their favor, they
did mention in passing that a) the gun had NEVER
been used domestically in a crime, b) It IS legal
to buy and sell them privately, and to purchase
ammunition, and, c) that even if one were to
shoot an airliner, it was not actually
all that likely to cause a crash.
Still...it seemed pretty supportive of the
congresscritter who wants to ban the weapons entirely,
and, that continuing erosion of our 2d amendment
rights worries me. They also pretty much ignored
the fact that this is one heavy weapon, and, it is
a LOT harder to hit a moving target than it is
to pull the trigger on a fixed target, on a
bench rest, on a closed range. But, hey, I
am probably just quibbling *smile*.
Ok...this has metalworking content,
as there are some interesting shots of some of the
manufacturing steps going on to build the gun.
Interesting stuff.
Regards
dave mundt

Well, if you want metalworking content, consider that the plans
for building a 50 caliber rifle are widely available. Interesting
metalworking project and easily within the abilities of most wreckers.

--RC
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Tom Gardner wrote:
These .50s SHOULD be banned...I can't afford one. (I want a .454 Casull
untill I can get a Barrett)


No you don't. Not unless you've got wrists like a gorilla.

Three rounds through one of those puppies and my wrist ached for days.

--RC
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:37:37 GMT, Rick Cook wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
These .50s SHOULD be banned...I can't afford one. (I want a .454 Casull
untill I can get a Barrett)


No you don't. Not unless you've got wrists like a gorilla.

Three rounds through one of those puppies and my wrist ached for days.


You one-handed it?

WHY?



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My wife was handed one of those .454s one day a few years back. All the
guys were snickering at the "little lady" with the big gun, until she
asked for another cylinderful of rounds. Use proper techniques and it
doesn't hurt at all. Of course, her carry piece is a .357 snubby with
+P+ loads.

Pops

Dave Hinz wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:37:37 GMT, Rick Cook

wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
These .50s SHOULD be banned...I can't afford one. (I want a .454

Casull
untill I can get a Barrett)


No you don't. Not unless you've got wrists like a gorilla.

Three rounds through one of those puppies and my wrist ached for

days.

You one-handed it?

WHY?


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Dave Mundt wrote:

Greetings and Salutations...
Well, just saw a short story on CNN, with
some kind of breathless reporting about one of their
guys who went out on the Net, and found a private
seller of 50 cal rifles...and BOUGHT one! They
were also surprised that it was possible to order
ammunition over the Net and have UPS show up with
it in a little bit.
Of course, they took the rifle out and
blew some holes in an aircraft door and a 1" thick
panel of steel, to proof how dangerous a weapon
it was.
I will say that, in their favor, they
did mention in passing that a) the gun had NEVER
been used domestically in a crime, b) It IS legal
to buy and sell them privately, and to purchase
ammunition, and, c) that even if one were to
shoot an airliner, it was not actually
all that likely to cause a crash.
Still...it seemed pretty supportive of the
congresscritter who wants to ban the weapons entirely,
and, that continuing erosion of our 2d amendment
rights worries me. They also pretty much ignored
the fact that this is one heavy weapon, and, it is
a LOT harder to hit a moving target than it is
to pull the trigger on a fixed target, on a
bench rest, on a closed range. But, hey, I
am probably just quibbling *smile*.
Ok...this has metalworking content,
as there are some interesting shots of some of the
manufacturing steps going on to build the gun.
Interesting stuff.
Regards
dave mundt


Just what were the attacks?

Tom
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:02:28 GMT, Gunner
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:29:20 -0600, Don Foreman
wrote:

manufacturing steps going on to build the gun.
Interesting stuff.


Shoot your gun, pound your pud whatever turns your crank. Must you
bang your antlers and bleat so loudly to draw attention?

Please consider gathering arms as you feel necessary, and shut the
hell up about it. Suggested diversion: work on your design for a
pistol that fires a .50 BMG round......


Whats the matter Don, scared by a cap pistol when you were in your
crib?


Made a hell of a dent in the nipple when the cap was popped -- Ma
didn't appreciate that much. Neither of us were ever quite the same
after that. That was in an era where there was no governmental
regulation of cap pistols with udder disregard to the infantile
trauma they might present.
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Dave Hinz wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:37:37 GMT, Rick Cook wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

These .50s SHOULD be banned...I can't afford one. (I want a .454 Casull
untill I can get a Barrett)


No you don't. Not unless you've got wrists like a gorilla.

Three rounds through one of those puppies and my wrist ached for days.



You one-handed it?

WHY?

Because it was the first time I'd ever shot one?

--RC
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Dave Hinz
wrote back on 18 Feb 2005 22:59:00 GMT in
rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:37:37 GMT, Rick Cook wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
These .50s SHOULD be banned...I can't afford one. (I want a .454 Casull
untill I can get a Barrett)


No you don't. Not unless you've got wrists like a gorilla.

Three rounds through one of those puppies and my wrist ached for days.


You one-handed it?

WHY?


--
pyotr filipivich.
as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James
Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at
producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with."
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Tom Gardner wrote:

These .50s SHOULD be banned...I can't afford one. (I want a .454 Casull
untill I can get a Barrett)


Get a Magnum Research BFR in .45-70 -- local Gander Mountain store has one
priced at $899.00. Much more comfortable to shoot than the .454 Casull.

-jc-
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 01:13:37 -0600, Don Foreman wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:02:28 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:29:20 -0600, Don Foreman
wrote:

manufacturing steps going on to build the gun.
Interesting stuff.

Shoot your gun, pound your pud whatever turns your crank. Must you
bang your antlers and bleat so loudly to draw attention?

Please consider gathering arms as you feel necessary, and shut the
hell up about it. Suggested diversion: work on your design for a
pistol that fires a .50 BMG round......


Whats the matter Don, scared by a cap pistol when you were in your
crib?


Made a hell of a dent in the nipple when the cap was popped -- Ma
didn't appreciate that much. Neither of us were ever quite the same
after that. That was in an era where there was no governmental
regulation of cap pistols with udder disregard to the infantile
trauma they might present.


C'mon, Don, is that the breast you can do?
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On 21 Feb 2005 17:15:45 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

C'mon, Don, is that the breast you can do?


LOL -- I really did.

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