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What is it? XLIII
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"R.H." wrote in message ... Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob How fitting that item 238 is a P-38 GI can opener |
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Jack wrote:
"R.H." wrote in message ... Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob How fitting that item 238 is a P-38 GI can opener So named because it was supposed to take 38 punches to work its way around the top of a standard K-ration can. Jeff (Smoke 'em if youve got 'em...) -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in public schools" |
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Jeff Wisnia wrote:
Jack wrote: "R.H." wrote in message ... Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob How fitting that item 238 is a P-38 GI can opener So named because it was supposed to take 38 punches to work its way around the top of a standard K-ration can. Jeff (Smoke 'em if youve got 'em...) I think it was C-rations and not K-rations. Philski |
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#238 is actually called a P38. It is a can opener that came about WWII and
the Korean War for opening those infamous rations. They even ended up being given out along with some canned good in the stores at one time...... I may even still have one or two around here some place.... -- George H Hughes Warner Robins, GA "Philski" wrote in message ... Jeff Wisnia wrote: Jack wrote: "R.H." wrote in message ... Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob How fitting that item 238 is a P-38 GI can opener So named because it was supposed to take 38 punches to work its way around the top of a standard K-ration can. Jeff (Smoke 'em if youve got 'em...) I think it was C-rations and not K-rations. Philski |
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:25:20 -0500, "George H Hughes"
wrote: #238 is actually called a P38. It is a can opener that came about WWII and the Korean War for opening those infamous rations. They even ended up being given out along with some canned good in the stores at one time...... I may even still have one or two around here some place.... You mean you dont keep one on your keychain? Sigh..no pocket knife or cigarette lighter either I suppose... Gunner "The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better, on average, than the citizens of Baltimore. True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee, but why this is more stylish than sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know." -- P.J O'Rourke (1989) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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"Jack" wrote in message ... "R.H." wrote in message ... Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob How fitting that item 238 is a P-38 GI can opener That worked out pretty good, I didn't know it was a P-38. |
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Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob #236 looks like another chain breaker. #237 almost looks like a wire stripper but because it is compound, is probably a crimper of some sort. #238 can opener #239 ?? #240 tool for spreading automotive battery terminal clamps. #241 looks like a thickness gauge. |
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"Mark and Kim Smith" wrote in message ... R.H. wrote: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob #236 looks like another chain breaker. Correct. #237 almost looks like a wire stripper but because it is compound, is probably a crimper of some sort. It's a crimper, but that's all I know about it. #238 can opener Yes #239 ?? #240 tool for spreading automotive battery terminal clamps. Correct #241 looks like a thickness gauge. Nope |
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Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob I'm sure someone's answered this already, but here are my answers: #236 is a bicycle chain link tool #237 looks like a crimping tool of some kind, though I couldn't say what for #238 P-38 can opener, issued to GIs when rations were in cans, before MREs became the standard ration #239 Looks like one of those 70s plastic ashtrays but that's not it... #240 really funny pliers or spreaders of some kind...specific uses I have no idea though. #241 wire thickness guage thanks for sharing, that's a very interesting page you've got there. bkr |
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"bkr" wrote in message ... R.H. wrote: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob I'm sure someone's answered this already, but here are my answers: #236 is a bicycle chain link tool #237 looks like a crimping tool of some kind, though I couldn't say what for #238 P-38 can opener, issued to GIs when rations were in cans, before MREs became the standard ration These are all correct #239 Looks like one of those 70s plastic ashtrays but that's not it... You're correct that it isn't an ashtray. #240 really funny pliers or spreaders of some kind...specific uses I have no idea though. #241 wire thickness guage It's not a thickness gauge. |
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"R.H." wrote in news
 YhDd.9687$iu5.6281@fe2.columbus.rr.com: #240 really funny pliers or spreaders of some kind...specific uses I have no idea though. #241 wire thickness guage #240's a spreader for battery terminals (car battery). #231 looks like something telephone related (dialer from a switchboard?) Regards, JT |
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"Matthew Newell" wrote in message T... In article , says... Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 236. (I've got one exactly like this) - it is for pushing out/replacing the removable rivet/pin in a bicycle chain Correct 237 - (my micrometer is ls starrett and i'm english bought it in a junk sale it is beautiful engineering )this has gotta be some form of adjustable jaw cutters/nipper used from clipping tiles to shape - but the blades look round the wrong way I'm not sure exactly what this one is for 238 (I've got one of these as well ) it's a tin opener, I believe it was a us military design/issue Yes 239. (you've not broken into my home to take photos have you?) - my zoetrope looks just like this Zeotrope is correct, and no I haven't broken into your house recently. 240 241 could be a drill bit holder d-i-y style Nope |
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wrote in message oups.com... So... is 239 a zoetrope or a zeotrope and what is it for? I had to check, it's zoetrope, I think I've been pronouncing it wrong for years. You put in strips of paper with drawings on it and then when you spin it the drawings appear animated when viewed through the slots. http://courses.ncssm.edu/gallery/col.../exhibit10.htm |
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R.H. wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... So... is 239 a zoetrope or a zeotrope and what is it for? I had to check, it's zoetrope, I think I've been pronouncing it wrong for years. You put in strips of paper with drawings on it and then when you spin it the drawings appear animated when viewed through the slots. http://courses.ncssm.edu/gallery/col...l/exhibit10.ht m A word (and device) I'm familiar with, but never checked the etymology of. The OED reports its first use in 1867: zoetrope [irreg. f. Gr. life + turning.] A mechanical toy or optical instrument consisting of a cylinder open at the top, with a series of slits in the circumference, and a series of figures representing successive positions of a moving object arranged along the inner surface, which when viewed through the slits while the cylinder is in rapid rotation produce the impression of actual movement of the object. Also called wheel of life. 1867 ‘Aunt Carrie’ Popular Pastimes for Field & Fireside 229 The Zoetrope is a newly invented toy. It presents a series of striking optical delusions. 1869 W. S. Gilbert ‘Bab’ Ball., Capt. Reece vi, And, also, with amusement rife, A ‘Zoetrope, or Wheel of Life.’ 1881 Athenæum 29 Oct. 567/2 By a zoetrope these figures are projected on a screen, and the clown exhibited as in motion, with all his changes of position. -- Bill Burns, Long Island, NY, USA History of Technology Websites: http://ftldesign.com |
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240 is, you asked for it, a nostril spreader for examination purposes.
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"Dave W" wrote in message ... 240 is, you asked for it, a nostril spreader for examination purposes. Yes, but you forgot to mention that it doubles as an automotive tool. |
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"Dave W" wrote in message ... 240 is, you asked for it, a nostril spreader for examination purposes. Yes, but you forgot to mention that it doubles as an automotive tool. |
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In article , rhvp67
@cinci.rr.com says... Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 236 Bicycle chain breaker 237 Spring wire cutter -- cuts hard wire 238 GI can opener -- popular among backpackers 239 ? 240 ? 241 Bench block used when driving out small pins, etc. Ned Simmons |
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"Ned Simmons" wrote in message ... In article , rhvp67 @cinci.rr.com says... Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 236 Bicycle chain breaker Correct 237 Spring wire cutter -- cuts hard wire I don't see any cutting edges on this one 238 GI can opener -- popular among backpackers Yes 239 ? 240 ? 241 Bench block used when driving out small pins, etc. It's a watchmaker's tool, so I suppose they could use it for that. |
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R.H. wrote: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 239 appears to be an automobile ashtray for an old Dodge 241 -- perhaps part of wire-extruding machinery? |
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237. Wire cutter, don't know what those jaws are for. 241. Watchmaker's bench block Matthew Russotto said the following on 1/6/2005 8:44 AM: In article , R.H. wrote: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 239 appears to be an automobile ashtray for an old Dodge 241 -- perhaps part of wire-extruding machinery? |
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"John Hofstad-Parkhill" wrote in message ... 237. Wire cutter, don't know what those jaws are for. Not a wire cutter... 241. Watchmaker's bench block Correct. |
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"Matthew Russotto" wrote in message ... In article , R.H. wrote: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 239 appears to be an automobile ashtray for an old Dodge The slots are too thin for it to be an ashtray. 241 -- perhaps part of wire-extruding machinery? Nope |
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241 the anvil part of a staking press
-- Fred R ________________ Drop TROU to email. |
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"Fred R" "spam wrote in message ... 241 the anvil part of a staking press Correct |
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"R.H." writes:
Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob #236 Bicycle Chain link removal tool #238 Can opener #239 Camera Lens Shade scott |
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"Scott Lurndal" wrote in message m... "R.H." writes: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob #236 Bicycle Chain link removal tool #238 Can opener #239 Camera Lens Shade The first two are right, but not the last. |
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In article , rhvp67
@cinci.rr.com says... Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 235, Tube flaring tool. 233, Tap or die holder. 238, GI can opener. 236, Bicycle chain tool. -- "Trust me, I do this all the time" Mike M |
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"Mike M" wrote in message .. . In article , rhvp67 @cinci.rr.com says... Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 235, Tube flaring tool. 233, Tap or die holder. 238, GI can opener. 236, Bicycle chain tool. These are all correct. |
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In article ,
R.H. wrote: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 236) Some sort of tool for pressing a pin out or in? Perhaps for roller drive chains? 237) A set of Starrett compound leverage end cutter pliers (Cutnippers). Except that the replaceable blades don't look right. I suspect that this has been modified to act as a crimper. These are normally avaialbe with either tool steel blades or carbide blades, and are normally used for cutting things like (hardened spring) music wire. There are two sizes of these, and mine are the smaller ones (No 1-5-1/2"). This marking is right where the "S-Y" marking is on your example. Note that there is an adjustable stop screw in the center of the spring (from the left-hand handle a shown), to adjust so the blades *almost* but not quite touch after re-sharpening. (The instruction slip packed with them suggests 0.001" clearance.) But these have no edges, which is why I suggest that they have been modified to serve as some form of crimper. O.K. I've just gone on down to the next image, and the end shape supports my feeling. Note also, that the screw on the jaw to the right is totally non-standard, while the one on the left may well be original. 238) K-ration can opener. 239) Some form of lens hood? I can't see the small end, to tell whether it is open, and threads into a lens. If so, the slots may allow the large end to be stored reversed on a lens body. 240) Pliers to expand the inside of something -- perhaps flexible tubing prior to slipping onto a fitting? 241) Jeweler's bench block. I've never known what function the slots along the near edge serve, but I suspect for holding a gear for filing or other work? Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message ... In article , R.H. wrote: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 236) Some sort of tool for pressing a pin out or in? Perhaps for roller drive chains? Correct, it's for bike chains, I'm not familiar with roller drive chains. 237) A set of Starrett compound leverage end cutter pliers (Cutnippers). Except that the replaceable blades don't look right. I suspect that this has been modified to act as a crimper. These are normally avaialbe with either tool steel blades or carbide blades, and are normally used for cutting things like (hardened spring) music wire. Yes, someone from Starrett also suggested that they might have been modified. There are two sizes of these, and mine are the smaller ones (No 1-5-1/2"). This marking is right where the "S-Y" marking is on your example. It's hard to read, but for the record mine says "S-7". Note that there is an adjustable stop screw in the center of the spring (from the left-hand handle a shown), to adjust so the blades *almost* but not quite touch after re-sharpening. (The instruction slip packed with them suggests 0.001" clearance.) But these have no edges, which is why I suggest that they have been modified to serve as some form of crimper. O.K. I've just gone on down to the next image, and the end shape supports my feeling. Note also, that the screw on the jaw to the right is totally non-standard, while the one on the left may well be original. I hadn't noticed the stop screw, thanks for the info. 238) K-ration can opener. Correct. 239) Some form of lens hood? I can't see the small end, to tell whether it is open, and threads into a lens. If so, the slots may allow the large end to be stored reversed on a lens body. The bottom of this one isn't open, it's not a lens hood. 240) Pliers to expand the inside of something -- perhaps flexible tubing prior to slipping onto a fitting? Yes, it's for expanding something, but not for tubing. 241) Jeweler's bench block. I've never known what function the slots along the near edge serve, but I suspect for holding a gear for filing or other work? Correct. |
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In article ,
R.H. wrote: "DoN. Nichols" wrote in message ... In article , R.H. wrote: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 236) Some sort of tool for pressing a pin out or in? Perhaps for roller drive chains? Correct, it's for bike chains, I'm not familiar with roller drive chains. I bike chain is only one example (and size) of roller drive chain. Larger ones are used in motorcycles, and they are used in various pieces of equipment elsewhere. I have a tiny one which was used to transfer the rotation of a knob to the shaft of a switch somewhat remotely located. A larger one is used in the Logan shaper to drive the bull gear from the motor in the base. 237) A set of Starrett compound leverage end cutter pliers (Cutnippers). Except that the replaceable blades don't look right. I suspect that this has been modified to act as a crimper. These are normally available with either tool steel blades or carbide blades, and are normally used for cutting things like (hardened spring) music wire. Yes, someone from Starrett also suggested that they might have been modified. Very likely. There are two sizes of these, and mine are the smaller ones (No 1-5-1/2"). This marking is right where the "S-Y" marking is on your example. It's hard to read, but for the record mine says "S-7". O.K. The other size is a 7" one, so the part number may reflect that. Looking in an old Starrett catalog, I see that the wire cutters are "No. 1" (followed by some suffix), and the same plier bodies, but with tile-cutting blades, bears a "235" part number. Note that there is an adjustable stop screw in the center of the spring (from the left-hand handle a shown), to adjust so the blades *almost* but not quite touch after re-sharpening. (The instruction slip packed with them suggests 0.001" clearance.) [ ... ] I hadn't noticed the stop screw, thanks for the info. It helps that I have bought them new, and thus gotten the instruction sheet which accompanies them. 238) K-ration can opener. Correct. 239) Some form of lens hood? I can't see the small end, to tell whether it is open, and threads into a lens. If so, the slots may allow the large end to be stored reversed on a lens body. The bottom of this one isn't open, it's not a lens hood. I have now read what it is. 240) Pliers to expand the inside of something -- perhaps flexible tubing prior to slipping onto a fitting? Yes, it's for expanding something, but not for tubing. And this. Out of curiosity -- why do you keep accepting guesses after you have posted the answers? Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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Out of curiosity -- why do you keep accepting guesses after you have posted the answers? I assume that they haven't realized that the answers have been posted, so I respond to their posts, figuring that they'll probably catch on soon to how I run the site. |
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R.H. wrote:
"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message ... In article , R.H. wrote: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 236) Some sort of tool for pressing a pin out or in? Perhaps for roller drive chains? Correct, it's for bike chains, I'm not familiar with roller drive chains. 237) A set of Starrett compound leverage end cutter pliers (Cutnippers). Except that the replaceable blades don't look right. I suspect that this has been modified to act as a crimper. These are normally avaialbe with either tool steel blades or carbide blades, and are normally used for cutting things like (hardened spring) music wire. Yes, someone from Starrett also suggested that they might have been modified. There are two sizes of these, and mine are the smaller ones (No 1-5-1/2"). This marking is right where the "S-Y" marking is on your example. It's hard to read, but for the record mine says "S-7". Note that there is an adjustable stop screw in the center of the spring (from the left-hand handle a shown), to adjust so the blades *almost* but not quite touch after re-sharpening. (The instruction slip packed with them suggests 0.001" clearance.) But these have no edges, which is why I suggest that they have been modified to serve as some form of crimper. O.K. I've just gone on down to the next image, and the end shape supports my feeling. Note also, that the screw on the jaw to the right is totally non-standard, while the one on the left may well be original. I hadn't noticed the stop screw, thanks for the info. 238) K-ration can opener. Correct. 239) Some form of lens hood? I can't see the small end, to tell whether it is open, and threads into a lens. If so, the slots may allow the large end to be stored reversed on a lens body. The bottom of this one isn't open, it's not a lens hood. 240) Pliers to expand the inside of something -- perhaps flexible tubing prior to slipping onto a fitting? Yes, it's for expanding something, but not for tubing. 241) Jeweler's bench block. I've never known what function the slots along the near edge serve, but I suspect for holding a gear for filing or other work? Correct. A bicycle chain is a roller chain. |
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Geeze, my server blows today. Piggybacking.
In article , R.H. wrote: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 236. Bicycle chain destroyer tool. 237. Pimple squeezer. 238. Airplane hijacking device. 239. Cup holder adapter. 240. Nostril flaring tool. 241. Fastener from foreign car brake system--the *******s. -- B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail dot net http://web2.airmail.net/thegoat4/ |
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Bob? Is that you, you *******!!!!!!
PCB bound!!! "B.B." u wrote in message news  Geeze, my server blows today. Piggybacking. In article , R.H. wrote: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 236. Bicycle chain destroyer tool. 237. Pimple squeezer. 238. Airplane hijacking device. 239. Cup holder adapter. 240. Nostril flaring tool. 241. Fastener from foreign car brake system--the *******s. -- B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail dot net http://web2.airmail.net/thegoat4/ |
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In article , R.H.
wrote: Just posted a few more this morning: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 236 is a bicycle chain tool. 238 is a can opener |
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