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Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table.. and I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top. I am pretty sure I
could buy the 'legs' at home depot or Lowes.. or any other hardware store..
the wheels as well. But I'd need at least 1 flat piece for the top. I could
make an "X" connecting the 4 legs to help solidify the structure. Where
could I obtain the flat piece? Any ideas? Thanks!

-Mike

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Also wondering how much something like this would cost (just for that top
flat piece)... thx.

-Mike

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Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table.. and

I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top. I am pretty sure I
could buy the 'legs' at home depot or Lowes.. or any other hardware

store..
the wheels as well. But I'd need at least 1 flat piece for the top. I

could
make an "X" connecting the 4 legs to help solidify the structure. Where
could I obtain the flat piece? Any ideas? Thanks!

-Mike

--
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Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors
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Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table.. and

I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top. I am pretty sure I
could buy the 'legs' at home depot or Lowes.. or any other hardware

store..
the wheels as well. But I'd need at least 1 flat piece for the top. I

could
make an "X" connecting the 4 legs to help solidify the structure. Where
could I obtain the flat piece? Any ideas? Thanks!


Curious, you tried looking in a phone book yellow pages under "steel" yet
???

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Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table.. and I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top.


**Bloody!**
That'd be some battleship of a welding table.

I'd like to see you carry it home.

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Jeff R.
(me... I'd settle for 1/4" thick)




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When you find that little piece of steel for the welding table and put it in
the trunk of your Stang please take pictures
Best guestimate is that it will weigh about 525 Lbs. 3/16" would probably
be more manageable and do fine for a welding table that size.
Your local steel or salvage yard should be able to help you out and the legs
will be much cheaper there than the hardware store.

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wrote in message
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Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table..
and I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top.


**Bloody!**
That'd be some battleship of a welding table.

I'd like to see you carry it home.

--
Jeff R.
(me... I'd settle for 1/4" thick)








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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:39:28 +1100, "Jeff R."
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Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table.. and I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top.


**Bloody!**
That'd be some battleship of a welding table.

I'd like to see you carry it home.


Mine is 4 feet x 8 feet with a 3/8" plate top.

Only took 3 of us to get it out of the trailer and set up. Though I
did use my Simplex jack to lift the ends when leveling it.

Want a picture? Im rather proud of it...chuckle


Gunner

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"Gunner" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:39:28 +1100, "Jeff R."
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wrote in message
m...
Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table..

and I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top.


**Bloody!**
That'd be some battleship of a welding table.

I'd like to see you carry it home.


Mine is 4 feet x 8 feet with a 3/8" plate top.

Only took 3 of us to get it out of the trailer and set up. Though I
did use my Simplex jack to lift the ends when leveling it.

Want a picture? Im rather proud of it...chuckle


Gunner


Heck - why not? (I love dirty pictures!)

BTW - (just wondering) - how would you feel if I (or some other visitor)
struck an arc across your table? (hehehe)

--
Jeff R.
(safe - 12,000 miles away)




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Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table.. and

I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top. I am pretty sure I
could buy the 'legs' at home depot or Lowes.. or any other hardware

store..
the wheels as well. But I'd need at least 1 flat piece for the top. I

could
make an "X" connecting the 4 legs to help solidify the structure. Where
could I obtain the flat piece? Any ideas? Thanks!

-Mike


My weld table is that size, but made of 3/4" steel plate, not 1". That very
well could be overkill. Steel is at a relatively high price right now, so
you might want to reconsider the thickness. 1" plate should run 40/lbs
square foot and you're likely to pay at least 60¢/lb. right now, considering
market prices. Could be more or less, though, I haven't made any inquiries
of late. .

I see talk of thin tables, but I'm not convinced it's a good idea. A had a
friend make mine, a friend that was a part owner of a large commercial weld
shop, and I let him make the decisions where materials were concerned. Too
thin won't serve you well and is more likely to distort over time. What
good is a buckled table? You rely on the flatness for assembling things.
So far my 3/4" one has been very stable and reliable.

Check in your phone book for steel suppliers in your area, and give serious
thought to buying everything from them, even is you have to pay them to make
the cuts. You're likely to be charged three times more than the value when
buying from retail stores such as HD or Lowes. If they want more than
75¢/lb, run like the wind. Before price increases, you could buy structural
metal for around 34¢/lb.

If all else fails, check with a local weld shop and talk to them about the
material you need. You might be surprised that they would be willing to
supply you at a reasonable price (or not!). Worked for me!

By the way, you might check HF for wheels. Great prices, and likely the
same wheels you'd get elsewhere for more money. My table sits on the
floor and doesn't move (no wheels). I like it like that, so make sure you
get locking wheels if you choose wheels for yours.

Harold


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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:42:32 +1100, "Jeff R."
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"Gunner" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:39:28 +1100, "Jeff R."
wrote:


wrote in message
m...
Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table..

and I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top.

**Bloody!**
That'd be some battleship of a welding table.

I'd like to see you carry it home.


Mine is 4 feet x 8 feet with a 3/8" plate top.

Only took 3 of us to get it out of the trailer and set up. Though I
did use my Simplex jack to lift the ends when leveling it.

Want a picture? Im rather proud of it...chuckle


Gunner


Heck - why not? (I love dirty pictures!)


emailed

BTW - (just wondering) - how would you feel if I (or some other visitor)
struck an arc across your table? (hehehe)


Doesnt bother me a bit. In fact, I often tack weld metal down to it.
Makes for mighty rigid fixtureing when you stick the angles etc to the
bench top and then weld em up. Warpage is minimal.

I clean up the welded places with the ever popular 4.5" Horrible
Freight angle grinder.

Thats why you use a steel topped welding bench, isnt it?

Gunner

Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best
wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible,
low-stress, nonaddictive, gender-neutral celebration of the
winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable
traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or the
secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious
or secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their
choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all.

May you have a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and
medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the
generally accepted calendar year 2005, but not without due
respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose
contributions to society have helped make the world great, and
without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability,
religious faith, political belief, choice of computer platform,
or sexual preference of the wishee.

By accepting this greeting you are accepting these terms. This
greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely
transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It
implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of
the wishes for herself or himself or others, is void where
prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of
the wisher. This wish is under warranty to perform as expected
within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one
year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting,
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wrote in message
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Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table.. and

I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top. I am pretty sure I
could buy the 'legs' at home depot or Lowes.. or any other hardware

store..
the wheels as well. But I'd need at least 1 flat piece for the top. I

could
make an "X" connecting the 4 legs to help solidify the structure. Where
could I obtain the flat piece? Any ideas? Thanks!

-Mike

The only way I would consider buying that thickness would be from a scrap
dealer or at auction. Current prices take the fun out of fabricating! I do
have my eye on a 4" round by about 36" piece of magnetic stainless at the
scrappie- just not sure what I would do with it yet.




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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:38:51 GMT, Gunner
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:39:28 +1100, "Jeff R."
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wrote in message
om...
Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table.. and I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top.


**Bloody!**
That'd be some battleship of a welding table.

I'd like to see you carry it home.


Mine is 4 feet x 8 feet with a 3/8" plate top.

Only took 3 of us to get it out of the trailer and set up. Though I
did use my Simplex jack to lift the ends when leveling it.

Want a picture? Im rather proud of it...chuckle


Gunner

snip sig

I got mine out of the plant salvage sale. 5'x5'x1/2" top, 4" I-beam
frame with 4" pipe legs. I can scoot it around with a big pinch bar,
but it's pretty stable.

Pete Keillor
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We found a 48"x60" x1" die set plate for our welding table. Even came
with an assortment of 1/2" tapped holes that work nicely with either
bolts, hold downs or the special Vice-Grip clamps. I LIKE it!

Jeff R. wrote:
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Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table.. and I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top.



**Bloody!**
That'd be some battleship of a welding table.

I'd like to see you carry it home.

--
Jeff R.
(me... I'd settle for 1/4" thick)




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LOLOLOLOL.... I was just giving a rough guess. I'm new to all of this &
figured it'd be interesting to make a table for welding projects. I'll look
into a 3/16" piece. Thanks lololol...

-Mike

--
A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors
Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant

"Glenn" wrote in message
...
When you find that little piece of steel for the welding table and put it

in
the trunk of your Stang please take pictures
Best guestimate is that it will weigh about 525 Lbs. 3/16" would probably
be more manageable and do fine for a welding table that size.
Your local steel or salvage yard should be able to help you out and the

legs
will be much cheaper there than the hardware store.

"Jeff R." wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table..
and I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top.


**Bloody!**
That'd be some battleship of a welding table.

I'd like to see you carry it home.

--
Jeff R.
(me... I'd settle for 1/4" thick)








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wrote in message
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Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table.. and

I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top. I am pretty sure I
could buy the 'legs' at home depot or Lowes.. or any other hardware

store..
the wheels as well. But I'd need at least 1 flat piece for the top. I

could
make an "X" connecting the 4 legs to help solidify the structure. Where
could I obtain the flat piece? Any ideas? Thanks!

-Mike

recommend aluminum plate that way your stick welding spatter will not stick
and it's easy to clean up, plus acts as a good conductor for your ground
connection. Lighter too. quarter inch thick is all you need even for a
motorcycle on it.

Wayne
www.rcsailcars.com


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Some good ideas. I appreciate it. I'll definitely look into less than 1"
steel LOL..

-Mike

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A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors
Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant

"Harold & Susan Vordos" wrote in message
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wrote in message
...
Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table..

and
I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top. I am pretty sure

I
could buy the 'legs' at home depot or Lowes.. or any other hardware

store..
the wheels as well. But I'd need at least 1 flat piece for the top. I

could
make an "X" connecting the 4 legs to help solidify the structure. Where
could I obtain the flat piece? Any ideas? Thanks!

-Mike


My weld table is that size, but made of 3/4" steel plate, not 1". That

very
well could be overkill. Steel is at a relatively high price right now,

so
you might want to reconsider the thickness. 1" plate should run 40/lbs
square foot and you're likely to pay at least 60¢/lb. right now,

considering
market prices. Could be more or less, though, I haven't made any inquiries
of late. .

I see talk of thin tables, but I'm not convinced it's a good idea. A had

a
friend make mine, a friend that was a part owner of a large commercial

weld
shop, and I let him make the decisions where materials were concerned.

Too
thin won't serve you well and is more likely to distort over time. What
good is a buckled table? You rely on the flatness for assembling things.
So far my 3/4" one has been very stable and reliable.

Check in your phone book for steel suppliers in your area, and give

serious
thought to buying everything from them, even is you have to pay them to

make
the cuts. You're likely to be charged three times more than the value

when
buying from retail stores such as HD or Lowes. If they want more than
75¢/lb, run like the wind. Before price increases, you could buy

structural
metal for around 34¢/lb.

If all else fails, check with a local weld shop and talk to them about the
material you need. You might be surprised that they would be willing to
supply you at a reasonable price (or not!). Worked for me!

By the way, you might check HF for wheels. Great prices, and likely the
same wheels you'd get elsewhere for more money. My table sits on the
floor and doesn't move (no wheels). I like it like that, so make sure you
get locking wheels if you choose wheels for yours.

Harold






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"ATP" wrote in message
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snip-----
I do
have my eye on a 4" round by about 36" piece of magnetic stainless at the
scrappie- just not sure what I would do with it yet.


You could send it to me if you'd like!

There's a good chance it's 17-4PH, a material I very much enjoy. It's not
fun to saw on small saws, but it sure is nice for making components that
you'd like heat treated.

Harold


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"Harold & Susan Vordos" wrote in message
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"ATP" wrote in message
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snip-----
I do
have my eye on a 4" round by about 36" piece of magnetic stainless at

the
scrappie- just not sure what I would do with it yet.


You could send it to me if you'd like!

There's a good chance it's 17-4PH, a material I very much enjoy. It's

not
fun to saw on small saws, but it sure is nice for making components that
you'd like heat treated.

Harold

it's 260 pounds @.25 a pound a little too big to turn on my heavy 10 and
probably a bitch to cut as you suggest. A nice looking hunk of metal,
though.


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lol.......... for a motorcycle on it LOL.. sorry, that was just hilarious
the way you put that . I'll definitely go with something smaller LOL..
thx.

-Mike

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Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors
Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant

"Wayne Lundberg" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table..

and
I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top. I am pretty sure

I
could buy the 'legs' at home depot or Lowes.. or any other hardware

store..
the wheels as well. But I'd need at least 1 flat piece for the top. I

could
make an "X" connecting the 4 legs to help solidify the structure. Where
could I obtain the flat piece? Any ideas? Thanks!

-Mike

recommend aluminum plate that way your stick welding spatter will not

stick
and it's easy to clean up, plus acts as a good conductor for your ground
connection. Lighter too. quarter inch thick is all you need even for a
motorcycle on it.

Wayne
www.rcsailcars.com




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I agree w/ ATP... check out your local metal recycling yard -- they
will have all kinds of industrial scrap for a lot less $/lb than buying
new. David

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Keep an open mind--go to scrap yards, or other places where you may find big
flat pieces. When you see a piece that might work, and is small enough to
handle, design your table around it. This applies to the legs as well. If
you are going to be welding, you can make legs out of what you find.




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I agree with the others, a scrap yard is the place to get your steel. I
went to my local yard and asked for a hunk of steel sheet and tube
and/or angle suitable for making a small welding table. I was in luck -
someone had recently scrapped two complete welding tables! I took the
one with a 2ft x 3t x 1/2in top ($20), which was just the size I wanted to
build. The other table was enormous, bigger than 4ft x 8ft, way too
big for my work space.




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Hmm... I'll check out the "local" (kinda far, but closest) salvage yards &
see what is available. Thx.

-Mike

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Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors
Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant


"Ron DeBlock" wrote in message
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I agree with the others, a scrap yard is the place to get your steel. I
went to my local yard and asked for a hunk of steel sheet and tube
and/or angle suitable for making a small welding table. I was in luck -
someone had recently scrapped two complete welding tables! I took the
one with a 2ft x 3t x 1/2in top ($20), which was just the size I wanted to
build. The other table was enormous, bigger than 4ft x 8ft, way too
big for my work space.






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skrev i en meddelelse
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Like... if I needed a piece of mild steel for making a welding table.. and

I
needed it maybe uhh... say 36" x 48" x 1" for the top. I am pretty sure I
could buy the 'legs' at home depot or Lowes.. or any other hardware

store..
the wheels as well. But I'd need at least 1 flat piece for the top. I

could
make an "X" connecting the 4 legs to help solidify the structure. Where
could I obtain the flat piece? Any ideas? Thanks!


These guys are serious:
www.diehardmetalshop.dk
For other types of metal you may want to check the scrapyards and steel
suppliers in the area... If you choose the steel suppliers you may have to
prepare to buy whole sheets..

Using 1" seems a little extreme.. I built a welding table some years ago
from Oak and just screwed a sheet of 6 mm aluminum on top and have had no
problems with this setup...

/peter


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