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Gunner Asch
"Gunner, you are the same ridiculous liberal f--k you ever where."
Scipio

So it's all in doubt, is it?
But the DOJ will enforce THEIR (and the ATF's) rules?

LMAO !!!
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Cliff

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:34:17 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Gunner Asch

IIRC A fictional Nazi .....
Stormtrooper? Gestapo?

We know what you like anyway.




Besides maglites.
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Cliff

"Cliff" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:34:17 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Gunner Asch

IIRC A fictional Nazi .....
Stormtrooper? Gestapo?

We know what you like anyway.

From Amazon.com:

"Revolt of Gunner Asch "
"What Became of Gunner Asch"
"Forward Gunner Asch"
"The return of Gunner Asch"

by Hans Hellmut Kirst


"The Revolt of Gunner Asch takes place a short time prior to
World War II and puts its focus on the life of an everyday
German soldier dealing with the intricacies and oxymorons of
life in the Wehrmacht. Young Gunner Asch maintains his balance
as he sees the changing political climate of his country,
and the frustrations brought about by the Army life by use of
quick wit, and a truly sardonic sense of humor. When there is a
problem in the battery with a young recruit being first crushed
and then molded into an Army automaton by the system, Gunner Asch
declares his revolt against the system itself. His main weapon
will be to follow the regulations precisely as they are written,
and not as they are applied. The result is total chaos for the
entire battery. Asch, who was considered a good if not ideal
soldier quickly becomes the pain in everyone's backside and makes
life very interesting for all involved."


Gunner Asch plainly evolved (independently) from "The Good Soldier Schweik",
whose tales my father used to relate to me. He (my father) found it
particularly amusing that the book was proscribed, with harsh penalties for
possession, in its native (and allied) land.


On Schweik:

" The title character of The Good Soldier Svejk is classified as
'feeble-minded', but he is drafted into the service of Austria with
the advent of WW I. Svejk (written also Schweik and Švejk) is honest,
naive, incompetent, and perhaps more shrewd than he reveals - the reader
remains unsure whether he is a good-natured simpleton or counterfeiting.
Many readers vote that he is a wise fool. In the fourth chapter Svejk is
thrown out of a nuthouse, where the doctors suspect that he is pretending
to be mad. Svejk doesn't complain about his rough treatment and later
says that real freedom, of which Socialists have never dreamed, is in the
nuthouse - there you can be what ever you want, God, the Pope, the King
of England, or St. Václav, although the latter was constantly in a
straitjacket.

As illustrated in Josef Lada's series of cartoons, Svejk is a plump,
badly shaved, middle-aged, ordinary-looking man. He is arrested for
making indiscreet remarks about the assassination of the Archeduke
Ferdinand, interrogated by civil and military authorities,
enforced to enlist, posted as an orderly to various officers,
finally to Lucas.

His strategy to undermine the pompous military bureaucracy is simple:
he fulfils the orders to the point which causes trouble, especially
for Lieutenant Lucas.

The novel was banned from the Czechoslovak army in 1925, the Polish
translation was confiscated in 1928, the Bulgarian translation was
suppressed in 1935, and the German translation burned on Nazi
bonfires in 1933."


Worth a read.
I can understand why someone would want to model themselves on either Asch or
Schweik.

I wonder: Is there an equivalent "hero" from, say, Korea, 'Nam or the middle
east? Any authors out there looking for a theme?

--
Jeff R.

"Cliff" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:34:17 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Gunner Asch

IIRC A fictional Nazi .....
Stormtrooper? Gestapo?

We know what you like anyway.

Chuckle..... spoken like the truly clueless.

From Amazon.com:

"Revolt of Gunner Asch "
"What Became of Gunner Asch"
"Forward Gunner Asch"
"The return of Gunner Asch"

by Hans Hellmut Kirst

Other books written by Herr Kirst

Night of the Generals
The Officer Factory
Nights of the long knives
Soldiers' revolt
Brothers in arms
The Adventures of Private Faust
The wolves
PARTY GAMES
The affairs of the generals

He wrote over 40 books, mostly political thrillers and military
fiction. Much of which was very anti-war, or at the least, very
anti-establishment.

One may have seen the several movies based on his books.

Gunner

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem.
To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized,
merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas