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Ping DoN
I've been trying to get through for several days but keep getting "Error 554: your server name Relay Access Denied". Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook |
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"Wayne Cook" wrote in message ... I've been trying to get through for several days but keep getting "Error 554: your server name Relay Access Denied". Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook I've experienced the same thing with DoN in the past. I finally just quit trying and talked to him through RCM. H |
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Still doesn't work. I know they're reaching my ISP since I can send one to another email address of mine. Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook |
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Wayne Cook wrote: Still doesn't work. I know they're reaching my ISP since I can send one to another email address of mine. I've replied to both of these via e-mail, and the e-mail seems to be going only one way. I need more data to attempt to diagnose the problem. Good Luck, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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Wayne Cook wrote: On 13 Dec 2004 22:08:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) wrote: In article , Wayne Cook wrote: Still doesn't work. I know they're reaching my ISP since I can send one to another email address of mine. I've replied to both of these via e-mail, and the e-mail seems to be going only one way. I need more data to attempt to diagnose the problem. Hmm. I didn't seem to get the second reply. I just tried again using the web mail interface instead of agent. Interesting -- I sent it just before posting this, so the e-mail should have reached you first. Anyway -- has there been any kind of change in your ISP's mail server that you know of? Good Luck, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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Wayne Cook wrote:
On 13 Dec 2004 22:08:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) wrote: In article , Wayne Cook wrote: Still doesn't work. I know they're reaching my ISP since I can send one to another email address of mine. I've replied to both of these via e-mail, and the e-mail seems to be going only one way. I need more data to attempt to diagnose the problem. Hmm. I didn't seem to get the second reply. I just tried again using the web mail interface instead of agent. Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook email test in progress. -- Martin Eastburn, Barbara Eastburn @ home at Lion's Lair with our computer NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder |
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Apologies to everyone else in the newsgroup, but I have no other way to
be sure to communicate this. In article , Wayne Cook wrote: On 13 Dec 2004 22:08:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) wrote: In article , Wayne Cook wrote: Still doesn't work. I know they're reaching my ISP since I can send one to another email address of mine. I've replied to both of these via e-mail, and the e-mail seems to be going only one way. I need more data to attempt to diagnose the problem. Hmm. I didn't seem to get the second reply. I just tried again using the web mail interface instead of agent. Well ... I've found out why. Your ISP is now rejecting messages to you form me -- in a similar complaint to what you got trying to send to me. However, your last e-mail reached me. I've sent a reply to that, including quoting the whole of the headers from the bounce. Just in case that does not make it, here is a trimmed version: ================================================== ==================== Hi. This is the qmail-send program at d-and-d.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. : 66.51.205.14 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 : Recipient address rejected: User +unknown in relay recipient table Giving up on 66.51.205.14. ================================================== ==================== And a "dig" on the above IP address returns (in part): ================================================== ==================== ;; ANSWER SECTION: 14.205.51.66.in-addr.arpa. 1D IN PTR mail.dslextreme.com. ================================================== ==================== *your* ISP. So -- your ISP thinks that *you* don't exist. I suspect a misguided attempt to improve spam blocking. :-) You may wish to pass this on to them. Good Luck, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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Old Nick wrote: On 13 Dec 2004 22:08:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email Don. I am getting emails returned from the address I usually use to send to you (the one on your message headers, and replies to your emails) It should still be valid. This is the reply I have had to two messages; one from a few days a go and one fomr today. Both came back today. I am posting all this detail hoping agasint hope that I am not releasing something that unleashes some bloody spam attack! Result: ************************************************* ******************* This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: Remote host cadeau.d-and-d.com [204.91.85.23] closed connection after initial connection: retry timeout exceeded This suggests an overly busy choke point somewhere between here and there. Yesterday, at least, some parts of the net were severely overloaded. Or it could have been one of the points during which the machine in question was *very* busy -- processing spam. :-) ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ Return-path: Received: from [203.221.127.162) by relay01.mail-hub.kbs.net.au with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1CcAj2-0007qR-00 O.K. I'm not blocking that IP or that system name. And a test forging a mail exchange using the "Return-Path: " components and my e-mail address as recipient shows no problems. So -- I suspect the net congestion, and it may well clear up next time you try. (Or it may not, and there is nothing that I can do about it. Good Luck, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On 14 Dec 2004 01:05:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols)
wrote: So -- I suspect the net congestion, and it may well clear up next time you try. (Or it may not, and there is nothing that I can do about it. Good Luck, DoN. Get a free www.myway.com email address. Or even a hotmail one (also free) 250 megs of storage, Great spam blockers, 10 meg email download size limits for big attachments And you can check your email from any browser anytime, anyplace. Gunner "To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas |
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:35:40 GMT, "Martin H. Eastburn"
wrote: Wayne Cook wrote: On 13 Dec 2004 22:08:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) wrote: In article , Wayne Cook wrote: Still doesn't work. I know they're reaching my ISP since I can send one to another email address of mine. I've replied to both of these via e-mail, and the e-mail seems to be going only one way. I need more data to attempt to diagnose the problem. Hmm. I didn't seem to get the second reply. I just tried again using the web mail interface instead of agent. Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook email test in progress. Your email reached me as did Dons response to what I sent via the web mail interface. However I don't seem to be able to email to you or Don via Agent. I'm going to have to do some investigating. Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook |
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On 13 Dec 2004 23:34:37 -0500, (DoN. Nichols)
wrote: In article , Wayne Cook wrote: On 13 Dec 2004 22:08:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) wrote: In article , Wayne Cook wrote: Still doesn't work. I know they're reaching my ISP since I can send one to another email address of mine. I've replied to both of these via e-mail, and the e-mail seems to be going only one way. I need more data to attempt to diagnose the problem. Hmm. I didn't seem to get the second reply. I just tried again using the web mail interface instead of agent. Interesting -- I sent it just before posting this, so the e-mail should have reached you first. I did get your response to my web mail send. Sounds like it's on this end for some reason. Anyway -- has there been any kind of change in your ISP's mail server that you know of? I wasn't informed of anything but I've not had time to check. Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook |
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Gunner wrote: On 14 Dec 2004 01:05:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) wrote: So -- I suspect the net congestion, and it may well clear up next time you try. (Or it may not, and there is nothing that I can do about it. [ ... ] Get a free www.myway.com email address. Or even a hotmail one (also free) 250 megs of storage, Great spam blockers, 10 meg email download size limits for big attachments Wayne has a web-based mail service from his IPS, along with the POP connected Agent. It appears to be a problem with the POP connection, *and* (sometimes) with incoming mail. And you can check your email from any browser anytime, anyplace. I, personally, can't stand to use a web-based mail interface (or for that matter to use a web based news poster), and I run my own mail server, so deliveries are automatic to my mailbox on my systems, whenever they come in. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On 14 Dec 2004 16:13:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols)
wrote: In article , Gunner wrote: On 14 Dec 2004 01:05:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) wrote: So -- I suspect the net congestion, and it may well clear up next time you try. (Or it may not, and there is nothing that I can do about it. [ ... ] Get a free www.myway.com email address. Or even a hotmail one (also free) 250 megs of storage, Great spam blockers, 10 meg email download size limits for big attachments Wayne has a web-based mail service from his IPS, along with the POP connected Agent. It appears to be a problem with the POP connection, *and* (sometimes) with incoming mail. Yes and? You lost me somewhere above and below. Neither of you can go to a website and log in, checking your email thats contained on their server? No POP or SMTP required. And you can check your email from any browser anytime, anyplace. I, personally, can't stand to use a web-based mail interface (or for that matter to use a web based news poster), and I run my own mail server, so deliveries are automatic to my mailbox on my systems, whenever they come in. Enjoy, DoN. Sometimes when all else fails, those online mail services such as hotmail work when nothing else does, and provides a safe cutout. Gunner "If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're around." "Democrat. In the dictionary it's right after demobilize and right before demode` (out of fashion). -Buddy Jordan 2001 |
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:03:57 GMT, Gunner
wrote: On 14 Dec 2004 16:13:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) wrote: In article , Gunner wrote: On 14 Dec 2004 01:05:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) wrote: So -- I suspect the net congestion, and it may well clear up next time you try. (Or it may not, and there is nothing that I can do about it. [ ... ] Get a free www.myway.com email address. Or even a hotmail one (also free) 250 megs of storage, Great spam blockers, 10 meg email download size limits for big attachments Wayne has a web-based mail service from his IPS, along with the POP connected Agent. It appears to be a problem with the POP connection, *and* (sometimes) with incoming mail. Yes and? You lost me somewhere above and below. Neither of you can go to a website and log in, checking your email thats contained on their server? No POP or SMTP required. What he's saying is that I've got access to all my email accounts in web format if I want to use it (which I really don't but will till I get a chance to correct this situation, I'm completely and totally swamped around here at the moment). On the other hand Don runs his own web and email servers in house. He does not want to and will not use anything except what he's got on hand for several reasons one of them security. And you can check your email from any browser anytime, anyplace. I, personally, can't stand to use a web-based mail interface (or for that matter to use a web based news poster), and I run my own mail server, so deliveries are automatic to my mailbox on my systems, whenever they come in. Enjoy, DoN. Sometimes when all else fails, those online mail services such as hotmail work when nothing else does, and provides a safe cutout. Only as a complete last resort. There's been many times in the past when I've filtered all email from hotmail and other services like that due to the high flow of spam from them. Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook |
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Gunner wrote: On 14 Dec 2004 16:13:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) wrote: In article , Gunner wrote: On 14 Dec 2004 01:05:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) wrote: So -- I suspect the net congestion, and it may well clear up next time you try. (Or it may not, and there is nothing that I can do about it. [ ... ] Get a free www.myway.com email address. Or even a hotmail one (also free) 250 megs of storage, Great spam blockers, 10 meg email download size limits for big attachments Wayne has a web-based mail service from his IPS, along with the POP connected Agent. It appears to be a problem with the POP connection, *and* (sometimes) with incoming mail. Yes and? You lost me somewhere above and below. Neither of you can go to a website and log in, checking your email thats contained on their server? No POP or SMTP required. Wayne can, and I mentioned that he h ad a web-based mail service from his ISP. I can't, because the mail is stored on my own systems, and I will not run a web-based server to (possibly) expose my e-mail to others, when I have no need of it. The SMTP gets the mail from his ISP's mail server to my mail server (one of my machines in my house) -- Or doesn't, when his mail server thinks that an attempt at unauthorized relaying is being made. :-) Another thing that can block things at my end is if the IP address or the envelope sender (usually shows up as "Return-Path: " in the headers) happens to be in one of my anti-spam blocklists. But that is checked, and is not the problem here. And you can check your email from any browser anytime, anyplace. I, personally, can't stand to use a web-based mail interface (or for that matter to use a web based news poster), and I run my own mail server, so deliveries are automatic to my mailbox on my systems, whenever they come in. Enjoy, DoN. Sometimes when all else fails, those online mail services such as hotmail work when nothing else does, and provides a safe cutout. The spammers think so, as well. There are currently 4893 hotmail addresses which have been used to send me spam (most of them forgeries, but some real) which are in my "envelope sender" blocklist. A set of typical "usernames" from that blocklist includes: zulu20042004 zumejempark zupnhaokwppmch zuu_finan4 zvrurku zwdrkngni zwjmmroyev zwsfof zwvrl526w zwvtrvztey zxbbl zxtqotprw By contrast, there are only 3460 msn entries in the blocklist, and only 397 rr.com ones. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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Old Nick wrote: On 14 Dec 2004 01:05:58 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email So -- I suspect the net congestion, and it may well clear up next time you try. (Or it may not, and there is nothing that I can do about it. [ ... ] These were tries over a couple of weeks, Don. I thought others were also saying they could not get through. Sorry if I musunderstood. There was one other -- but it appears to be a problem with his ISP's mail server. It gets tangled up trying to prevent spamming, apparently, and thinks that his account does not exist, or that my system does not exist (or at least, it thinks that an attempt is being made to relay mail through the ISP's mail server, when it is really (or should be) normal mail processing. :-) Have you tried in the last few days? Good Luck, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On 15 Dec 2004 22:29:30 -0500, (DoN. Nichols)
wrote: Sometimes when all else fails, those online mail services such as hotmail work when nothing else does, and provides a safe cutout. The spammers think so, as well. There are currently 4893 hotmail addresses which have been used to send me spam (most of them forgeries, but some real) which are in my "envelope sender" blocklist. A set of typical "usernames" from that blocklist includes: All I was suggesting was if you needed to send something back and forth that tends to get waylayed, was to get a free www.myway.com account and use it. I have one and use it as a temp or blind pig second email addy. Not to convert all your email over to something web based. Just set it up for the odd usage here and there as needed. The myway account has particularly good spam filters. In the two years Ive maintained this account, Ive gotten 6 pieces of spam. Period Shrug..ymmv Gunner "Gunner, you are the same ridiculous liberal f--k you ever where." Scipio |
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Old Nick wrote: On 15 Dec 2004 22:33:27 -0500, (DoN. Nichols) vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email Sorry about the slow reply. I had _news_ problems, and lost the thread until you posted this. Which was posted back on the 15th. tested just now. Have you tried in the last few days? And your test (without text body) arrived earlier this evening. Merry Christmas, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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