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Hi all, I'm looking buying a boat, but concerned about the trailer
(images can be seen he https://imgur.com/a/mtkIlST ). The boat itself weighs about 600 pounds. Is that trailer going to be fixed up with a flapper disk and some primer/paint, or is it too far gone to consider being useful for its intended purpose? Jon |
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"Jon Danniken" wrote in message ...
Hi all, I'm looking buying a boat, but concerned about the trailer (images can be seen he https://imgur.com/a/mtkIlST ). The boat itself weighs about 600 pounds. Is that trailer going to be fixed up with a flapper disk and some primer/paint, or is it too far gone to consider being useful for its intended purpose? Jon ========================= It looks like some of the galvanizing remains so it may not be too bad unless you find deeply pitted areas that retained water. I've cleaned up worse rust on a truck bumper by sandblasting what abrasives didn't remove. If it was used in salt water you might want to thoroughly hose the tubing inside and out on a hot dry day to wash off any remaining salt. |
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On 8/6/20 6:56 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Jon Danniken"Â* wrote in message ... Hi all, I'm looking buying a boat, but concerned about the trailer (images can be seen heÂ* https://imgur.com/a/mtkIlSTÂ* ).Â* The boat itself weighs about 600 pounds. Is that trailer going to be fixed up with a flapper disk and some primer/paint, or is it too far gone to consider being useful for its intended purpose? Jon ========================= It looks like some of the galvanizing remains so it may not be too bad unless you find deeply pitted areas that retained water. I've cleaned up worse rust on a truck bumper by sandblasting what abrasives didn't remove. If it was used in salt water you might want to thoroughly hose the tubing inside and out on a hot dry day to wash off any remaining salt. Hi Jim, thanks, this trailer is indeed located right near the ocean and was likely used there for at least some time. Jon |
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On 8/6/2020 5:16 PM, Jon Danniken wrote:
On 8/6/20 6:56 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: "Jon Danniken"Â* wrote in message ... Hi all, I'm looking buying a boat, but concerned about the trailer (images can be seen heÂ* https://imgur.com/a/mtkIlSTÂ* ).Â* The boat itself weighs about 600 pounds. Is that trailer going to be fixed up with a flapper disk and some primer/paint, or is it too far gone to consider being useful for its intended purpose? Jon ========================= It looks like some of the galvanizing remains so it may not be too bad unless you find deeply pitted areas that retained water. I've cleaned up worse rust on a truck bumper by sandblasting what abrasives didn't remove. If it was used in salt water you might want to thoroughly hose the tubing inside and out on a hot dry day to wash off any remaining salt. Hi Jim, thanks, this trailer is indeed located right near the ocean and was likely used there for at least some time. Jon Is that a tube frame trailer or a C-channel trailer? With C-channel the water drains away easier and faster, and you can inspect it more easily. What you see its what you get. With tube frame trailers I suggest crawling underneath and tapping on any suspicious looking spots and any low spots with a hammer. Even if they have a drain hole. They tend to rust from the inside out, and the hold moisture for a long time. A buddy of mine has had me cut and patch the cross members on his early 90s tube frame trailer a couple times. A similar c-channel trailer II have was built in 1950, and while I have had to work on it the frame is not rusted through anywhere, and I have not had to repair the frame. Well I did convert it from tilt to fixed by welding it up, but that's it. Neither has been in salt that I am aware of. I don't know anything about rag hangers, but I'd make my decision based on the value of the clothes line without the trailer. |
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On 8/6/20 7:45 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
Is that a tube frame trailer or a C-channel trailer? With C-channel the water drains away easier and faster, and you can inspect it more easily.Â* What you see its what you get. With tube frame trailers I suggest crawling underneath and tapping on any suspicious looking spots and any low spots with a hammer.Â* Even if they have a drain hole.Â* They tend to rust from the inside out, and the hold moisture for a long time. A buddy of mine has had me cut and patch the cross members on his early 90s tube frame trailer a couple times.Â* A similar c-channel trailer II have was built in 1950, and while I have had to work on it the frame is not rusted through anywhere, and I have not had to repair the frame. Well I did convert it from tilt to fixed by welding it up, but that's it.Â* Neither has been in salt that I am aware of. I don't know anything about rag hangers, but I'd make my decision based on the value of the clothes line without the trailer. Hi Bob, I'll have to ask the seller, it's a few hundred miles from me so I don't have any way to inspect it before I make the drive. I was assuming it was square, but as light as the boat is maybe it's channel. Jon |
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message ...
.... I don't know anything about rag hangers, but I'd make my decision based on the value of the clothes line without the trailer. ====================================== Better get used to them, they are coming back. https://theweek.com/articles/825647/...igh-seas-again Even in the old days the best could reach 14-17 kts. https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ouse-emissions "The world's largest cargo ships are travelling at lower speeds today than sailing clippers such as the Cutty Sark did more than 130 years ago." |
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On 8/6/20 7:45 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
Is that a tube frame trailer or a C-channel trailer? With C-channel the water drains away easier and faster, and you can inspect it more easily.Â* What you see its what you get. With tube frame trailers I suggest crawling underneath and tapping on any suspicious looking spots and any low spots with a hammer.Â* Even if they have a drain hole.Â* They tend to rust from the inside out, and the hold moisture for a long time. A buddy of mine has had me cut and patch the cross members on his early 90s tube frame trailer a couple times.Â* A similar c-channel trailer II have was built in 1950, and while I have had to work on it the frame is not rusted through anywhere, and I have not had to repair the frame. Well I did convert it from tilt to fixed by welding it up, but that's it.Â* Neither has been in salt that I am aware of. Hi Bob, the trailer is indeed C-channel. Good news! Jon |
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On 8/7/2020 2:45 AM, Jon Danniken wrote:
On 8/6/20 7:45 PM, Bob La Londe wrote: Is that a tube frame trailer or a C-channel trailer? With C-channel the water drains away easier and faster, and you can inspect it more easily.Â* What you see its what you get. With tube frame trailers I suggest crawling underneath and tapping on any suspicious looking spots and any low spots with a hammer.Â* Even if they have a drain hole.Â* They tend to rust from the inside out, and the hold moisture for a long time. A buddy of mine has had me cut and patch the cross members on his early 90s tube frame trailer a couple times.Â* A similar c-channel trailer II have was built in 1950, and while I have had to work on it the frame is not rusted through anywhere, and I have not had to repair the frame. Well I did convert it from tilt to fixed by welding it up, but that's it.Â* Neither has been in salt that I am aware of. Hi Bob, the trailer is indeed C-channel.Â* Good news! Jon You still have to inspect it, but atleast now you can see everything. |
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On 8/7/20 9:19 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 8/7/2020 2:45 AM, Jon Danniken wrote: On 8/6/20 7:45 PM, Bob La Londe wrote: Is that a tube frame trailer or a C-channel trailer? With C-channel the water drains away easier and faster, and you can inspect it more easily.Â* What you see its what you get. With tube frame trailers I suggest crawling underneath and tapping on any suspicious looking spots and any low spots with a hammer.Â* Even if they have a drain hole.Â* They tend to rust from the inside out, and the hold moisture for a long time. A buddy of mine has had me cut and patch the cross members on his early 90s tube frame trailer a couple times.Â* A similar c-channel trailer II have was built in 1950, and while I have had to work on it the frame is not rusted through anywhere, and I have not had to repair the frame. Well I did convert it from tilt to fixed by welding it up, but that's it.Â* Neither has been in salt that I am aware of. Hi Bob, the trailer is indeed C-channel.Â* Good news! Jon You still have to inspect it, but atleast now you can see everything. Thanks Bob. Should I just tink it with a hammer and see what sound it makes/make sure it doesn't turn to dust? Jon |
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On 8/7/2020 10:25 AM, Jon Danniken wrote:
On 8/7/20 9:19 AM, Bob La Londe wrote: On 8/7/2020 2:45 AM, Jon Danniken wrote: On 8/6/20 7:45 PM, Bob La Londe wrote: Is that a tube frame trailer or a C-channel trailer? With C-channel the water drains away easier and faster, and you can inspect it more easily.Â* What you see its what you get. With tube frame trailers I suggest crawling underneath and tapping on any suspicious looking spots and any low spots with a hammer. Even if they have a drain hole.Â* They tend to rust from the inside out, and the hold moisture for a long time. A buddy of mine has had me cut and patch the cross members on his early 90s tube frame trailer a couple times.Â* A similar c-channel trailer II have was built in 1950, and while I have had to work on it the frame is not rusted through anywhere, and I have not had to repair the frame. Well I did convert it from tilt to fixed by welding it up, but that's it.Â* Neither has been in salt that I am aware of. Hi Bob, the trailer is indeed C-channel.Â* Good news! Jon You still have to inspect it, but atleast now you can see everything. Thanks Bob.Â* Should I just tink it with a hammer and see what sound it makes/make sure it doesn't turn to dust? Jon Certainly anyplace it looks like you need to. Both sides. |
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On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 17:38:14 -0500, Jon Danniken
wrote: Hi all, I'm looking buying a boat, but concerned about the trailer (images can be seen he https://imgur.com/a/mtkIlST ). The boat itself weighs about 600 pounds. Is that trailer going to be fixed up with a flapper disk and some primer/paint, or is it too far gone to consider being useful for its intended purpose? Jon Looks like an ODay Daysailer or one of the clones. Good sailboats. Your trailer..from the distance the photos were shot...appears to be fine. If you can sand blast it..do that. If you cant...a GOOD flap wheel on a angle grinder will clean the rust up. It appears its been in sal****er a few times..and in snow a fair amount. After getting it as clean as you can..get a rust converter and paint it on. https://www.thedrive.com/reviews/279...s-and-removers Then hit it with either a 2 part epoxy or the good industrial Rustolem paint. About a quart will do the job. 2" paint brush. My Oday Daysailer II. https://goo.gl/photos/qvUCNgSYoiTeiNaw8 Its not fully done..but it sails ok. Some of my other boats..I currently have..8 https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9 https://photos.app.goo.gl/6u6zqudTKo8s44S27 https://photos.app.goo.gl/LTJGtbPsLjskuUfp9 https://goo.gl/photos/CWtpsL3UPsaixbqK8 its...its...its an addiction... (Grin) __ "Journalists are extremely rare and shouldn’t be harmed, but propagandists are everywhere and should be hunted for sport" Yeah..with no bag limit. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 20:00:31 -0500, Jon Danniken
wrote: On 8/6/20 7:45 PM, Bob La Londe wrote: Is that a tube frame trailer or a C-channel trailer? With C-channel the water drains away easier and faster, and you can inspect it more easily.* What you see its what you get. With tube frame trailers I suggest crawling underneath and tapping on any suspicious looking spots and any low spots with a hammer.* Even if they have a drain hole.* They tend to rust from the inside out, and the hold moisture for a long time. A buddy of mine has had me cut and patch the cross members on his early 90s tube frame trailer a couple times.* A similar c-channel trailer II have was built in 1950, and while I have had to work on it the frame is not rusted through anywhere, and I have not had to repair the frame. Well I did convert it from tilt to fixed by welding it up, but that's it.* Neither has been in salt that I am aware of. I don't know anything about rag hangers, but I'd make my decision based on the value of the clothes line without the trailer. Hi Bob, I'll have to ask the seller, it's a few hundred miles from me so I don't have any way to inspect it before I make the drive. I was assuming it was square, but as light as the boat is maybe it's channel. Jon Its channel. You should be just fine. PULL the wheels..and do the wheel bearings!! If you have to drive a few hundred miles each way...you DONT want to have a bearing go tits up at 9:34 pm. And buy a good used spare or even a new tire and wheel. $35 at Walmart...$25ish at a full iine tire shop for a used wheel and tire. Btw..if the wheels and tires are "iffy"...you can buy a matching pair of new rims and new tires for under $65 delivered..on Ebay. The Deestone tires are pretty decent for a low weight trailer and boat. Thats what I put a pair of last month on that SeaSpray Cat to get it home. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deestone-D9...e/303253018782 __ "Journalists are extremely rare and shouldn’t be harmed, but propagandists are everywhere and should be hunted for sport" Yeah..with no bag limit. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 8/7/20 7:13 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 17:38:14 -0500, Jon Danniken wrote: Hi all, I'm looking buying a boat, but concerned about the trailer (images can be seen he https://imgur.com/a/mtkIlST ). The boat itself weighs about 600 pounds. Is that trailer going to be fixed up with a flapper disk and some primer/paint, or is it too far gone to consider being useful for its intended purpose? Jon Looks like an ODay Daysailer or one of the clones. Good sailboats. Your trailer..from the distance the photos were shot...appears to be fine. If you can sand blast it..do that. If you cant...a GOOD flap wheel on a angle grinder will clean the rust up. It appears its been in sal****er a few times..and in snow a fair amount. After getting it as clean as you can..get a rust converter and paint it on. https://www.thedrive.com/reviews/279...s-and-removers Then hit it with either a 2 part epoxy or the good industrial Rustolem paint. About a quart will do the job. 2" paint brush. My Oday Daysailer II. https://goo.gl/photos/qvUCNgSYoiTeiNaw8 Its not fully done..but it sails ok. Some of my other boats..I currently have..8 https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9 https://photos.app.goo.gl/6u6zqudTKo8s44S27 https://photos.app.goo.gl/LTJGtbPsLjskuUfp9 https://goo.gl/photos/CWtpsL3UPsaixbqK8 its...its...its an addiction... (Grin) Thanks Gunner, it is indeed a DS1, small enough to transport but big enough for fun. I don't have a blaster but that would probably be easier than using the angle (if my compressor can keep up). Speaking of finishes, I have used the zinc galvanizing rattle can (rustoleum) before, have you ever used that stuff as a primer before final painting? The only times I have used it was as the sole coat, but I don't know if it sticks well enough for use as a primer. Jon |
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On 8/7/20 7:30 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
Its channel. You should be just fine. PULL the wheels..and do the wheel bearings!! If you have to drive a few hundred miles each way...you DONT want to have a bearing go tits up at 9:34 pm. And buy a good used spare or even a new tire and wheel. $35 at Walmart...$25ish at a full iine tire shop for a used wheel and tire. Btw..if the wheels and tires are "iffy"...you can buy a matching pair of new rims and new tires for under $65 delivered..on Ebay. The Deestone tires are pretty decent for a low weight trailer and boat. Thats what I put a pair of last month on that SeaSpray Cat to get it home. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deestone-D9...e/303253018782 Hey Gunner, the seller packed the bearings today so that's a good thing, It's about 300 miles from me so I need to make sure it's roadworthy. It comes with a decebt spare, too. Tires are shot, so I figured I'd get some "tires on rims" from Amazon; $87 for a pair of Load "C" tires on rims so I don't have to deal with mounting tires and iffy rims when I get the https://www.amazon.com/eCustomRim-2-.../dp/B071Z8YMSV BTW nice DS2 you've got there; I like those better than the DS1, but that's all I have available now. Jon |
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On 08/08/2020 12:06, Jon Danniken wrote:
On 8/7/20 7:13 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 17:38:14 -0500, Jon Danniken wrote: Hi all, I'm looking buying a boat, but concerned about the trailer (images can be seen heÂ* https://imgur.com/a/mtkIlSTÂ* ). The boat itself weighs about 600 pounds. Is that trailer going to be fixed up with a flapper disk and some primer/paint, or is it too far gone to consider being useful for its intended purpose? Jon Looks like an ODay Daysailer or one of the clones. Good sailboats. Your trailer..from the distance the photos were shot...appears to be fine. If you can sand blast it..do that. If you cant...a GOOD flap wheel on a angle grinder will clean the rust up. It appears its been in sal****er a few times..and in snow a fair amount. After getting it as clean as you can..get a rust converter and paint it on. https://www.thedrive.com/reviews/279...s-and-removers Then hit it with either a 2 part epoxy or the good industrial Rustolem paint. About a quart will do the job. 2" paint brush. My Oday Daysailer II. https://goo.gl/photos/qvUCNgSYoiTeiNaw8 Its not fully done..but it sails ok. Some of my other boats..I currently have..8 https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9 https://photos.app.goo.gl/6u6zqudTKo8s44S27 https://photos.app.goo.gl/LTJGtbPsLjskuUfp9 https://goo.gl/photos/CWtpsL3UPsaixbqK8 its...its...its an addiction... (Grin) Thanks Gunner, it is indeed a DS1, small enough to transport but big enough for fun.Â* I don't have a blaster but that would probably be easier than using the angle (if my compressor can keep up). Speaking of finishes, I have used the zinc galvanizing rattle can (rustoleum) before, have you ever used that stuff as a primer before final painting?Â* The only times I have used it was as the sole coat, but I don't know if it sticks well enough for use as a primer. Jon Do you have a galvanising plant nearby, it's a cheap bulk process and if you're going to clean it back to bare metal will provide a better result than paint. Need to make sure you don't have any enclosed box sections, they would need to be vented to allow gas venting and drainage. My neighbour has priced up galvanising versus painting in the past for industrial plant and galvanising came out cheaper and more durable. Paint need to be removed as the initial acid dip will remove rust and scale but not paint, some galvanisers do offer a blasting service as it can be used to provide a rougher surface to enable a thicker zinc surface layer build-up. From the photos I would assume from the rust that the trailer was not galvanised to start with just painted. |
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On 8/8/20 5:46 PM, David Billington wrote:
Do you have a galvanising plant nearby, it's a cheap bulk process and if you're going to clean it back to bare metal will provide a better result than paint. Need to make sure you don't have any enclosed box sections, they would need to be vented to allow gas venting and drainage. My neighbour has priced up galvanising versus painting in the past for industrial plant and galvanising came out cheaper and more durable. Paint need to be removed as the initial acid dip will remove rust and scale but not paint, some galvanisers do offer a blasting service as it can be used to provide a rougher surface to enable a thicker zinc surface layer build-up. From the photos I would assume from the rust that the trailer was not galvanised to start with just painted. Interesting idea David, thanks for that, I'll call around and see what I can find! Jon |
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 06:06:43 -0500, Jon Danniken
wrote: On 8/7/20 7:13 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 17:38:14 -0500, Jon Danniken wrote: Hi all, I'm looking buying a boat, but concerned about the trailer (images can be seen he https://imgur.com/a/mtkIlST ). The boat itself weighs about 600 pounds. Is that trailer going to be fixed up with a flapper disk and some primer/paint, or is it too far gone to consider being useful for its intended purpose? Jon Looks like an ODay Daysailer or one of the clones. Good sailboats. Your trailer..from the distance the photos were shot...appears to be fine. If you can sand blast it..do that. If you cant...a GOOD flap wheel on a angle grinder will clean the rust up. It appears its been in sal****er a few times..and in snow a fair amount. After getting it as clean as you can..get a rust converter and paint it on. https://www.thedrive.com/reviews/279...s-and-removers Then hit it with either a 2 part epoxy or the good industrial Rustolem paint. About a quart will do the job. 2" paint brush. My Oday Daysailer II. https://goo.gl/photos/qvUCNgSYoiTeiNaw8 Its not fully done..but it sails ok. Some of my other boats..I currently have..8 https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9 https://photos.app.goo.gl/6u6zqudTKo8s44S27 https://photos.app.goo.gl/LTJGtbPsLjskuUfp9 https://goo.gl/photos/CWtpsL3UPsaixbqK8 its...its...its an addiction... (Grin) Thanks Gunner, it is indeed a DS1, small enough to transport but big enough for fun. I don't have a blaster but that would probably be easier than using the angle (if my compressor can keep up). Speaking of finishes, I have used the zinc galvanizing rattle can (rustoleum) before, have you ever used that stuff as a primer before final painting? The only times I have used it was as the sole coat, but I don't know if it sticks well enough for use as a primer. Jon Shrug..the cold galvanizing works. But you HAVE to kill the rust before applying any covering. Else in a suprisingly short time...it will start to bubble up as the rust grows under the covering. With a rust converter..you really dont need to get down to bare metal, and unless the rust is 1/4" deep...it sure works. The cold galvanizing is not a primer..it can be used as such..but...shrug...it will be hard to keep the top coat sticking to it. You either paint or galvanize..generally not both. As you can see from the pictures of the trailer under my DS2...it was a rusty mass as well. Fortunately..I managed to catch it in time. I live in the desert..so the occasional dip and fast dry..and the 5" of rain we get here doesnt stress the cheap paint I put on it after wire wheeling all the big chunks off. __ "Journalists are extremely rare and shouldn’t be harmed, but propagandists are everywhere and should be hunted for sport" Yeah..with no bag limit. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 15:52:55 -0500, Jon Danniken
wrote: On 8/7/20 7:30 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: Its channel. You should be just fine. PULL the wheels..and do the wheel bearings!! If you have to drive a few hundred miles each way...you DONT want to have a bearing go tits up at 9:34 pm. And buy a good used spare or even a new tire and wheel. $35 at Walmart...$25ish at a full iine tire shop for a used wheel and tire. Btw..if the wheels and tires are "iffy"...you can buy a matching pair of new rims and new tires for under $65 delivered..on Ebay. The Deestone tires are pretty decent for a low weight trailer and boat. Thats what I put a pair of last month on that SeaSpray Cat to get it home. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deestone-D9...e/303253018782 Hey Gunner, the seller packed the bearings today so that's a good thing, It's about 300 miles from me so I need to make sure it's roadworthy. It comes with a decebt spare, too. Great!!! Tires are shot, so I figured I'd get some "tires on rims" from Amazon; $87 for a pair of Load "C" tires on rims so I don't have to deal with mounting tires and iffy rims when I get the https://www.amazon.com/eCustomRim-2-.../dp/B071Z8YMSV 12" eh..good price. Mine are 8"...so were a bit cheaper. BTW nice DS2 you've got there; I like those better than the DS1, but that's all I have available now. Jon Good! Most tires on boat trailers die in about 8 yrs...less if you are keeping them covered. The sun kills em. The Aquarius 7.0 had new tires installed about 8 yrs ago and when I brought it home..they were starting to crack all around the sidewalls. About 500 miles on them..and they were almost done. The Daysailers are nice boats and are decent lake boats for family and friends out for the day. Faster than one would think as well. There are LOTS of tuneup and mod data avaialable all over the 'net. Btw.. a clean DS on a clean trailer..will sell all day long at $1800. So once you get her the way you want it..dont give it away unless you want to. They are some of the most desired small day sailer boats out there. __ "Journalists are extremely rare and shouldn’t be harmed, but propagandists are everywhere and should be hunted for sport" Yeah..with no bag limit. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Rusty boat trailer
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:22:29 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 15:52:55 -0500, Jon Danniken wrote: On 8/7/20 7:30 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: Its channel. You should be just fine. PULL the wheels..and do the wheel bearings!! If you have to drive a few hundred miles each way...you DONT want to have a bearing go tits up at 9:34 pm. And buy a good used spare or even a new tire and wheel. $35 at Walmart...$25ish at a full iine tire shop for a used wheel and tire. Btw..if the wheels and tires are "iffy"...you can buy a matching pair of new rims and new tires for under $65 delivered..on Ebay. The Deestone tires are pretty decent for a low weight trailer and boat. Thats what I put a pair of last month on that SeaSpray Cat to get it home. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deestone-D9...e/303253018782 Hey Gunner, the seller packed the bearings today so that's a good thing, It's about 300 miles from me so I need to make sure it's roadworthy. It comes with a decebt spare, too. Great!!! Tires are shot, so I figured I'd get some "tires on rims" from Amazon; $87 for a pair of Load "C" tires on rims so I don't have to deal with mounting tires and iffy rims when I get the https://www.amazon.com/eCustomRim-2-.../dp/B071Z8YMSV 12" eh..good price. Mine are 8"...so were a bit cheaper. BTW nice DS2 you've got there; I like those better than the DS1, but that's all I have available now. Jon Good! Most tires on boat trailers die in about 8 yrs...less if you are keeping them covered. The sun kills em. Gack...sorry about that..I was doing something else when I wrote that bit of idiocy. Sun (UV) kills tires. If you can keep your tires covered..you will have them last a fair amount of time. Most boat tires that are covered or out fo direct sun will last about 8 yrs. Less if you are NOT covering/shading them. I picked up a bunch of boats that were used up to about 2009. Then they sat for the next 8-11 yrs. Virtually all of them had their tires going bad. Gunner __ "Journalists are extremely rare and shouldn’t be harmed, but propagandists are everywhere and should be hunted for sport" Yeah..with no bag limit. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Rusty boat trailer
On 8/9/20 1:01 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
Shrug..the cold galvanizing works. But you HAVE to kill the rust before applying any covering. Else in a suprisingly short time...it will start to bubble up as the rust grows under the covering. With a rust converter..you really dont need to get down to bare metal, and unless the rust is 1/4" deep...it sure works. The cold galvanizing is not a primer..it can be used as such..but...shrug...it will be hard to keep the top coat sticking to it. You either paint or galvanize..generally not both. As you can see from the pictures of the trailer under my DS2...it was a rusty mass as well. Fortunately..I managed to catch it in time. I live in the desert..so the occasional dip and fast dry..and the 5" of rain we get here doesnt stress the cheap paint I put on it after wire wheeling all the big chunks off. Thanks Gunner, I had a feeling that was the case. I used some of that on some house jacks I cooked up a few years ago that I just wanted to slather with one coat of something. They weren't subject to any abrasive forces, and the galvanizing worked great to keep the bare metal from rusting under the house. Jon |
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Rusty boat trailer
On 8/9/20 2:09 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:22:29 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 15:52:55 -0500, Jon Danniken wrote: On 8/7/20 7:30 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: Its channel. You should be just fine. PULL the wheels..and do the wheel bearings!! If you have to drive a few hundred miles each way...you DONT want to have a bearing go tits up at 9:34 pm. And buy a good used spare or even a new tire and wheel. $35 at Walmart...$25ish at a full iine tire shop for a used wheel and tire. Btw..if the wheels and tires are "iffy"...you can buy a matching pair of new rims and new tires for under $65 delivered..on Ebay. The Deestone tires are pretty decent for a low weight trailer and boat. Thats what I put a pair of last month on that SeaSpray Cat to get it home. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deestone-D9...e/303253018782 Hey Gunner, the seller packed the bearings today so that's a good thing, It's about 300 miles from me so I need to make sure it's roadworthy. It comes with a decebt spare, too. Great!!! Tires are shot, so I figured I'd get some "tires on rims" from Amazon; $87 for a pair of Load "C" tires on rims so I don't have to deal with mounting tires and iffy rims when I get the https://www.amazon.com/eCustomRim-2-.../dp/B071Z8YMSV 12" eh..good price. Mine are 8"...so were a bit cheaper. BTW nice DS2 you've got there; I like those better than the DS1, but that's all I have available now. Jon Good! Most tires on boat trailers die in about 8 yrs...less if you are keeping them covered. The sun kills em. Gack...sorry about that..I was doing something else when I wrote that bit of idiocy. Sun (UV) kills tires. If you can keep your tires covered..you will have them last a fair amount of time. Most boat tires that are covered or out fo direct sun will last about 8 yrs. Less if you are NOT covering/shading them. I picked up a bunch of boats that were used up to about 2009. Then they sat for the next 8-11 yrs. Virtually all of them had their tires going bad. UV is a killer for sure. Jon |
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Rusty boat trailer
On 8/9/2020 12:09 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:22:29 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 15:52:55 -0500, Jon Danniken wrote: On 8/7/20 7:30 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: Its channel. You should be just fine. PULL the wheels..and do the wheel bearings!! If you have to drive a few hundred miles each way...you DONT want to have a bearing go tits up at 9:34 pm. And buy a good used spare or even a new tire and wheel. $35 at Walmart...$25ish at a full iine tire shop for a used wheel and tire. Btw..if the wheels and tires are "iffy"...you can buy a matching pair of new rims and new tires for under $65 delivered..on Ebay. The Deestone tires are pretty decent for a low weight trailer and boat. Thats what I put a pair of last month on that SeaSpray Cat to get it home. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deestone-D9...e/303253018782 Hey Gunner, the seller packed the bearings today so that's a good thing, It's about 300 miles from me so I need to make sure it's roadworthy. It comes with a decebt spare, too. Great!!! Tires are shot, so I figured I'd get some "tires on rims" from Amazon; $87 for a pair of Load "C" tires on rims so I don't have to deal with mounting tires and iffy rims when I get the https://www.amazon.com/eCustomRim-2-.../dp/B071Z8YMSV 12" eh..good price. Mine are 8"...so were a bit cheaper. BTW nice DS2 you've got there; I like those better than the DS1, but that's all I have available now. Jon Good! Most tires on boat trailers die in about 8 yrs...less if you are keeping them covered. The sun kills em. Gack...sorry about that..I was doing something else when I wrote that bit of idiocy. ****ing off, as usual. |
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