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Tom Gardner August 21st 04 11:20 AM

Machinist Brush -update-
 
Many will remember my "Machinist Brush" trials and all the help you gave me
with testing and feedback. I just got word that it was included in a big,
German/US brush company's new catalog to come out in a few months. They
forecast 20k units per year to start. They LOVED the applications and
write-ups that you guys and gals did for me. My very favorite response was
from an Aluminum caster that used the brush to sweep molten Aluminum off the
sprue holes on a mold. The employees had been using a plastic broom. They
tried the Machinist brush and the employees said: "This Good, No Fire." (I
have to dig-out the whole story, it was great!) A lot of them were good and
showed truly innovative uses; stuff I NEVER would have thought of. Thanks
again, I owe you all a beer.

Now that I've cracked the nut, there are two other huge brush companies that
will most likely catalog them.

(Gunner, I WILL make some from fiber for you this year, I promise!)



Larry Jaques August 21st 04 02:36 PM

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:20:41 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
calmly ranted:

Many will remember my "Machinist Brush" trials and all the help you gave me
with testing and feedback. I just got word that it was included in a big,
German/US brush company's new catalog to come out in a few months. They
forecast 20k units per year to start. They LOVED the applications and
write-ups that you guys and gals did for me. My very favorite response was
from an Aluminum caster that used the brush to sweep molten Aluminum off the
sprue holes on a mold. The employees had been using a plastic broom. They
tried the Machinist brush and the employees said: "This Good, No Fire." (I


Har! They sound like real "Strong like ox, smart like tractor." kinda
guys.


have to dig-out the whole story, it was great!) A lot of them were good and
showed truly innovative uses; stuff I NEVER would have thought of. Thanks
again, I owe you all a beer.


Yeah, if the responders don't mind, I'd love to see them.


Now that I've cracked the nut, there are two other huge brush companies that
will most likely catalog them.


That's excellent news, Tom. Congrats on the big contract +2!
Now the question is: "Can you handle the volume?"


(Gunner, I WILL make some from fiber for you this year, I promise!)


Hurry, two thirds of it are already gone!


--
Strong like ox, smart like tractor.
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www.diversify.com Oxen-free Website Design


Gunner August 21st 04 06:21 PM

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:20:41 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

Many will remember my "Machinist Brush" trials and all the help you gave me
with testing and feedback. I just got word that it was included in a big,
German/US brush company's new catalog to come out in a few months. They
forecast 20k units per year to start. They LOVED the applications and
write-ups that you guys and gals did for me. My very favorite response was
from an Aluminum caster that used the brush to sweep molten Aluminum off the
sprue holes on a mold. The employees had been using a plastic broom. They
tried the Machinist brush and the employees said: "This Good, No Fire." (I
have to dig-out the whole story, it was great!) A lot of them were good and
showed truly innovative uses; stuff I NEVER would have thought of. Thanks
again, I owe you all a beer.

Now that I've cracked the nut, there are two other huge brush companies that
will most likely catalog them.

(Gunner, I WILL make some from fiber for you this year, I promise!)

Way!! Cool.

If you look closely at the pictures on my web site..you will indeed
note your brushes hanging from the various lathes/mills G

They do indeed get used regularly.

Gunner

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except
in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism
proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is
merely the difference between murder and suicide."
- Ayn Rand, from "Foreign Policy Drains U.S. of Main
Weapons"

Tom Gardner August 21st 04 11:30 PM

That's excellent news, Tom. Congrats on the big contract +2!
Now the question is: "Can you handle the volume?"


I can make about 2,500 per person/per shift. One person will assemble for 6
hours then two hits on a press for 2 hours then packing and labeling takes
another two man-hours. They are slightly slower than the short version that
we have made for over 40 years. Still not enough volume to change the
process. I'm sure we could automate it and then run it for three hours a
week. Bigger fish to fry...



DanG August 22nd 04 12:39 AM

Tom,
Thanks again. I have mine held on the drill press cover with
magnets. Work great.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
m...
Many will remember my "Machinist Brush" trials and all the help

you gave me
with testing and feedback. I just got word that it was included

in a big,
German/US brush company's new catalog to come out in a few

months. They
forecast 20k units per year to start. They LOVED the

applications and
write-ups that you guys and gals did for me. My very favorite

response was
from an Aluminum caster that used the brush to sweep molten

Aluminum off the
sprue holes on a mold. The employees had been using a plastic

broom. They
tried the Machinist brush and the employees said: "This Good,

No Fire." (I
have to dig-out the whole story, it was great!) A lot of them

were good and
showed truly innovative uses; stuff I NEVER would have thought

of. Thanks
again, I owe you all a beer.

Now that I've cracked the nut, there are two other huge brush

companies that
will most likely catalog them.

(Gunner, I WILL make some from fiber for you this year, I

promise!)





williamhenry August 22nd 04 12:59 AM

where to find these brushes?



Tom Gardner August 22nd 04 01:53 AM



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don't
"williamhenry" wrote in message
...
where to find these brushes?

http://www.ohiobrush.com/Pages/misc.html the short version is here, just

imagine 3" longer wire, or imagine an updated webpage.



Larry Jaques August 22nd 04 02:24 AM

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 22:30:57 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
calmly ranted:

That's excellent news, Tom. Congrats on the big contract +2!
Now the question is: "Can you handle the volume?"


I can make about 2,500 per person/per shift. One person will assemble for 6
hours then two hits on a press for 2 hours then packing and labeling takes
another two man-hours. They are slightly slower than the short version that
we have made for over 40 years. Still not enough volume to change the
process. I'm sure we could automate it and then run it for three hours a
week. Bigger fish to fry...


Yeah, sounds like you've got it covered. Bueno, bwana.


--
Impeach 'em ALL!
----------------------------------------------------
http://diversify.com Website Application Programming


Bruce L. Bergman August 22nd 04 04:59 AM

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:53:41 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:
"williamhenry" wrote in message
.. .


where to find these brushes?

http://www.ohiobrush.com/Pages/misc.html the short version is here, just

imagine 3" longer wire, or imagine an updated webpage.


And while you (or Hi-Tech) are updating that page, you need to
Un-Spell-Check the 80015 pot brush - it might give you an extra "Round
Tuit" chit to get that done this week... (May 2000?!?)

You wanted 'Palmyra' and somewhere along the line a "Spell Mangle"
program insisted that 'Paltry' was the proper word. Which it aint.
;-)

-- Bruce --
--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net.

Tom Gardner August 22nd 04 05:28 AM

I'm sooo ashamed! Nobody's touched the site in 4 years. I don't want to do
it because it will absorb my life and I'm too cheap to hire somebody...any
volunteers?


"Bruce L. Bergman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:53:41 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:
"williamhenry" wrote in message
.. .


where to find these brushes?

http://www.ohiobrush.com/Pages/misc.html the short version is here,

just
imagine 3" longer wire, or imagine an updated webpage.


And while you (or Hi-Tech) are updating that page, you need to
Un-Spell-Check the 80015 pot brush - it might give you an extra "Round
Tuit" chit to get that done this week... (May 2000?!?)

You wanted 'Palmyra' and somewhere along the line a "Spell Mangle"
program insisted that 'Paltry' was the proper word. Which it aint.
;-)

-- Bruce --
--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net.




Dave Mundt August 22nd 04 07:31 AM

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 04:28:42 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

I'm sooo ashamed! Nobody's touched the site in 4 years. I don't want to do
it because it will absorb my life and I'm too cheap to hire somebody...any
volunteers?

Sigh...as a web designer myself, I should point
out that this is a time-consuming, creatively difficult
thing. Paying someone to do it, unless you can hook
a relative into doing it for free, is a *good* thing to
do.
Secondly, I looked at the site...and while it
does not look bad at all, I did note with some
interest that it has EXACTLY the same style as the
website of the original design company. Perhaps
it would be a good idea to get fresh eyes looking
at it.
I also really prefer websites that have
some indication of what the product costs. Now,
on at least a couple of the ones I have done, that
has meant that the catalog pages have been generated
on the fly from a database (I prefer mySQL running
under Linux).
As for expense....How cheap are lost sales?
While you really do not need to do a massive revamp,
and spend tens of thousands of dollars on it, I need
to point out that change to the content of a website
is one of the criteria that many search engines
use to push YOUR site up in the listings. Also,
I could see adding some content about the process
y'all do to make brushes, and, some "teaser" pages
for coming products.
It might be nice, too, for folks to have
a somewhat more formatted webform available for
feedback and information requests. Some folks
prefer working within the browser, rather than
having to pop over to their Email program.
Now...having said all that...I have to say
that it seems like a pretty good site, overall.
It is easy enough to get around in, and has a fair
amount of information easily available about your
products. I am sure that the brush business is
probably not that volatile, so you probably DON'T
need to make that many changes.
Oh yea...one thing that can be worthwhile
is to have a regular promotion listed on the
home page. That can catch folk's eye and get them
looking about your site.
Regards
Dave Mundt

Larry Jaques August 22nd 04 04:45 PM

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 04:28:42 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
calmly ranted:

I'm sooo ashamed! Nobody's touched the site in 4 years. I don't want to do
it because it will absorb my life and I'm too cheap to hire somebody...any
volunteers?


If you weren't so damned cheap I'd jump right in and
remove/replace those horribly overcompressed (JPG
artifacts up the ying yang) pics of yours, too. ;)

BTW, I didn't know you made brushes for Plymouths.
(ref to "duster" brushes)

http://www.ohiobrush.com/Pages/misc.html the short version is here,




--
Impeach 'em ALL!
----------------------------------------------------
http://diversify.com Website Application Programming


Tom Gardner August 22nd 04 06:17 PM


"Dave Mundt" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 04:28:42 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

I'm sooo ashamed! Nobody's touched the site in 4 years. I don't want to

do
it because it will absorb my life and I'm too cheap to hire

somebody...any
volunteers?

Sigh...as a web designer myself, I should point
out that this is a time-consuming, creatively difficult
thing. Paying someone to do it, unless you can hook
a relative into doing it for free, is a *good* thing to
do.
Secondly, I looked at the site...and while it
does not look bad at all, I did note with some
interest that it has EXACTLY the same style as the
website of the original design company. Perhaps
it would be a good idea to get fresh eyes looking
at it.
I also really prefer websites that have
some indication of what the product costs. Now,
on at least a couple of the ones I have done, that
has meant that the catalog pages have been generated
on the fly from a database (I prefer mySQL running
under Linux).
As for expense....How cheap are lost sales?
While you really do not need to do a massive revamp,
and spend tens of thousands of dollars on it, I need
to point out that change to the content of a website
is one of the criteria that many search engines
use to push YOUR site up in the listings. Also,
I could see adding some content about the process
y'all do to make brushes, and, some "teaser" pages
for coming products.
It might be nice, too, for folks to have
a somewhat more formatted webform available for
feedback and information requests. Some folks
prefer working within the browser, rather than
having to pop over to their Email program.
Now...having said all that...I have to say
that it seems like a pretty good site, overall.
It is easy enough to get around in, and has a fair
amount of information easily available about your
products. I am sure that the brush business is
probably not that volatile, so you probably DON'T
need to make that many changes.
Oh yea...one thing that can be worthwhile
is to have a regular promotion listed on the
home page. That can catch folk's eye and get them
looking about your site.
Regards
Dave Mundt


I don't think I want a retail site. I get enough calls and e-mails from end
users but can't make any profit from selling orders less than $100 even at
full retail prices. We are so un-tuned to small orders it costs close to
$15 to process an order. If I do retail, I would be selling to my
customer's customers...not good! Our average order is from co-manufacturers
or mill supply in the thousands of dollars. It's just what we do, right or
wrong, and I constantly second guess our strategy. The page is mostly for
existing customers that need dimensions, part numbers, weights and such. It
relieves a large number of info calls. The end-user calls we do get are for
items usually not available retail like brass wire or special configuration
or technical advice. I don't know of any mfgrs that do retail well.

But, my website truly sucks, and I promise to re-do it as soon as I get the
brushes for Gunner.



Stephen August 24th 04 08:02 PM

Would you post a list of retail outlets that sell these brushes? Preferably
an online retailer

Thanks,
Scp

"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
m...
Many will remember my "Machinist Brush" trials and all the help you gave

me
with testing and feedback. I just got word that it was included in a big,
German/US brush company's new catalog to come out in a few months. They
forecast 20k units per year to start. They LOVED the applications and
write-ups that you guys and gals did for me. My very favorite response

was
from an Aluminum caster that used the brush to sweep molten Aluminum off

the
sprue holes on a mold. The employees had been using a plastic broom.

They
tried the Machinist brush and the employees said: "This Good, No Fire."

(I
have to dig-out the whole story, it was great!) A lot of them were good

and
showed truly innovative uses; stuff I NEVER would have thought of. Thanks
again, I owe you all a beer.

Now that I've cracked the nut, there are two other huge brush companies

that
will most likely catalog them.

(Gunner, I WILL make some from fiber for you this year, I promise!)





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