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Keeping a bolt tight in a hot frying pan

That's the problem. Lovely non-stick frying pan, but the handle
loosens frequently. Wife got a replacement for the stove, but wants
to keep this one for baking. So, removed the handle.
It was not as I thought, a problem from a steel machine screw
going into an aluminum pan. There is a steel bracket that the screw
threads into.
And there is a split washer on the screw, but it seems to be to
have gotten flattened. While the pan doesn't get really hot, it does,
apparently, get hot enough to remove any temper in that split washer.
So, my question, does anyone know if there are split washers or
the like, made for a "high" temperature environment? This is right
now purely for information. Unless she buys another pan, it is of
purely intellectual interest.

tschus
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:58:09 -0700, pyotr filipivich
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Keeping a bolt tight in a hot frying pan

That's the problem. Lovely non-stick frying pan, but the handle
loosens frequently. Wife got a replacement for the stove, but wants
to keep this one for baking. So, removed the handle.
It was not as I thought, a problem from a steel machine screw
going into an aluminum pan. There is a steel bracket that the screw
threads into.
And there is a split washer on the screw, but it seems to be to
have gotten flattened. While the pan doesn't get really hot, it does,
apparently, get hot enough to remove any temper in that split washer.
So, my question, does anyone know if there are split washers or
the like, made for a "high" temperature environment? This is right
now purely for information. Unless she buys another pan, it is of
purely intellectual interest.

tschus
pyotr


:-) I've been married for nearly 50 years and all that time I've been
tightening handles on cooking pots :-)

K & R make high temperature lock washers

https://www.k-rfastenersinc.com/prod...&cat=3137&page
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:58:09 -0700, pyotr filipivich
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Keeping a bolt tight in a hot frying pan

That's the problem. Lovely non-stick frying pan, but the handle
loosens frequently. Wife got a replacement for the stove, but wants
to keep this one for baking. So, removed the handle.
It was not as I thought, a problem from a steel machine screw
going into an aluminum pan. There is a steel bracket that the screw
threads into.
And there is a split washer on the screw, but it seems to be to
have gotten flattened. While the pan doesn't get really hot, it does,
apparently, get hot enough to remove any temper in that split washer.
So, my question, does anyone know if there are split washers or
the like, made for a "high" temperature environment? This is right
now purely for information. Unless she buys another pan, it is of
purely intellectual interest.

tschus
pyotr

You need a "star" lockwasher instead of a "split" lockwasher and a
slightly deformed thread helps too - NOT deformed at "the tip" but
about 3 threads from "tight"
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 07:16:59 +0700, John B.
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:58:09 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Keeping a bolt tight in a hot frying pan

That's the problem. Lovely non-stick frying pan, but the handle
loosens frequently. Wife got a replacement for the stove, but wants
to keep this one for baking. So, removed the handle.
It was not as I thought, a problem from a steel machine screw
going into an aluminum pan. There is a steel bracket that the screw
threads into.
And there is a split washer on the screw, but it seems to be to
have gotten flattened. While the pan doesn't get really hot, it does,
apparently, get hot enough to remove any temper in that split washer.
So, my question, does anyone know if there are split washers or
the like, made for a "high" temperature environment? This is right
now purely for information. Unless she buys another pan, it is of
purely intellectual interest.

tschus
pyotr


:-) I've been married for nearly 50 years and all that time I've been
tightening handles on cooking pots :-)

K & R make high temperature lock washers

https://www.k-rfastenersinc.com/prod...&cat=3137&page

A good conical spring washer works good too - it is the change in
temperature and differential expoansion that allows them to back off.
The "belleville" type I believe they call them, is a "pretensioning
spring".
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Keeping a bolt tight in a hot frying pan
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The bolts through this Zytel nylon bracket kept loosening until I drilled
and safety wired their heads.
https://tinyurl.com/yctw5dcp

The wire is just loosely bent so it doesn't shake out, not twisted together,
and it's kept the pump and motor bolts tight for over 20 yrs.



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On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:58:09 -0700, pyotr filipivich
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Keeping a bolt tight in a hot frying pan

That's the problem. Lovely non-stick frying pan, but the handle
loosens frequently. Wife got a replacement for the stove, but wants
to keep this one for baking. So, removed the handle.
It was not as I thought, a problem from a steel machine screw
going into an aluminum pan. There is a steel bracket that the screw
threads into.
And there is a split washer on the screw, but it seems to be to
have gotten flattened. While the pan doesn't get really hot, it does,
apparently, get hot enough to remove any temper in that split washer.
So, my question, does anyone know if there are split washers or
the like, made for a "high" temperature environment? This is right
now purely for information. Unless she buys another pan, it is of
purely intellectual interest.

tschus
pyotr


https://www.eis-inc.com/threadlocker/p-loc1138282

https://www.bokers.com/star_washers.asp

https://www.ndindustries.com/product...ing/thermoloc/

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...prod54624.aspx

Its..simple really.

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On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 7:58:08 PM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Keeping a bolt tight in a hot frying pan

That's the problem. Lovely non-stick frying pan, but the handle
loosens frequently. Wife got a replacement for the stove, but wants
to keep this one for baking. So, removed the handle.
It was not as I thought, a problem from a steel machine screw
going into an aluminum pan. There is a steel bracket that the screw
threads into.
And there is a split washer on the screw, but it seems to be to
have gotten flattened. While the pan doesn't get really hot, it does,
apparently, get hot enough to remove any temper in that split washer.
So, my question, does anyone know if there are split washers or
the like, made for a "high" temperature environment? This is right
now purely for information. Unless she buys another pan, it is of
purely intellectual interest.

tschus
pyotr
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pyotr filipivich.
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"It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged
boys could lose a finger or two playing with."


wasn't there a discussion recently here about how split washers really don't do anything? And John B. is right: tightening pot handles is part of being married.
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:58:09 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote:

Keeping a bolt tight in a hot frying pan

That's the problem. Lovely non-stick frying pan, but the handle
loosens frequently. Wife got a replacement for the stove, but wants to
keep this one for baking. So, removed the handle.
It was not as I thought, a problem from a steel machine screw
going into an aluminum pan. There is a steel bracket that the screw
threads into.
And there is a split washer on the screw, but it seems to be to
have gotten flattened. While the pan doesn't get really hot, it does,
apparently, get hot enough to remove any temper in that split washer.
So, my question, does anyone know if there are split washers or
the like, made for a "high" temperature environment? This is right now
purely for information. Unless she buys another pan, it is of purely
intellectual interest.

tschus pyotr


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On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 23:42:17 +0000 (UTC), me2k wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:58:09 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote:

Keeping a bolt tight in a hot frying pan

That's the problem. Lovely non-stick frying pan, but the handle
loosens frequently. Wife got a replacement for the stove, but wants to
keep this one for baking. So, removed the handle.
It was not as I thought, a problem from a steel machine screw
going into an aluminum pan. There is a steel bracket that the screw
threads into.
And there is a split washer on the screw, but it seems to be to
have gotten flattened. While the pan doesn't get really hot, it does,
apparently, get hot enough to remove any temper in that split washer.
So, my question, does anyone know if there are split washers or
the like, made for a "high" temperature environment? This is right now
purely for information. Unless she buys another pan, it is of purely
intellectual interest.

tschus pyotr


cool

Generally speaking a internal ar double star washer was the washer of
choice for good cookwear


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