Hello all,

I have a friend that has a large baked porcelain pot used for
the canning process. Dimensions about 18" Diameter and maybe 16" Deep
Used on a stove to boil water with canning jars inside on a metal rack
for a period of time till done, etc.

There is a small hole at the bottom outside radius corner. Needless to
say the hole will not allow water to retain itself within the pot and
most likely will extinguish any flames that are applied to the pot.

The desire is to patch the hole without doing serious damage to
the rest of the pot. Anyone have any knowledge on what type
of repair will work the best with this "Holy Pot"??

Thanks for all of the expert and otherwise suggestions.

Les

"ABLE1" wrote in message
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Hello all,

I have a friend that has a large baked porcelain pot used for
the canning process. Dimensions about 18" Diameter and maybe 16"
Deep
Used on a stove to boil water with canning jars inside on a metal
rack
for a period of time till done, etc.

There is a small hole at the bottom outside radius corner. Needless
to say the hole will not allow water to retain itself within the pot
and
most likely will extinguish any flames that are applied to the pot.

The desire is to patch the hole without doing serious damage to
the rest of the pot. Anyone have any knowledge on what type
of repair will work the best with this "Holy Pot"??

Thanks for all of the expert and otherwise suggestions.

Les

When my enameled kettle suffered damage I repurposed it as a wood
stove ash bucket and bought a stainless one, after trying some liquid
enamel repair that didn't last underwater.

That first inexpensive 'stainless' 5 gallon kettle developed a pit
that corroded through so I bought a better second one, and TIG-welded
the hole shut. The heated area rusted but hasn't failed yet, in weekly
use heating laundry water.

-jsw

ABLE1 writes:

I have a friend that has a large baked porcelain pot used for
the canning process. Dimensions about 18" Diameter and maybe 16" Deep
Used on a stove to boil water with canning jars inside on a metal rack
for a period of time till done, etc.

There is a small hole at the bottom outside radius corner. Needless to
say the hole will not allow water to retain itself within the pot and
most likely will extinguish any flames that are applied to the pot.

The desire is to patch the hole without doing serious damage to
the rest of the pot. Anyone have any knowledge on what type
of repair will work the best with this "Holy Pot"??

My experience from a couple of decades on a near-zero budget, canning,
preserving, no electricity etc. and maintaining everything as cheaply
as possible is that nothing works really well for enamelware. Usual
cause of a hole is rust following chipped enamel. By the time you've
cleaned back to good metal for soldering or even JB Weld, you have a
big hole instead of a small one.

Stop-gap: Very small flat-headed stainless bolt through the hole.
Thin stainless washers either side, leather or silicone washers under
the metal ones & against the kettle surface. If the hole is in a curved
surface, you have to shape the metal washers to fit before installing.

Such bolts, complete with washers and leathers, intended for such
repairs, used to be in hardware stores. I have some but haven't seen
them in the store for decades.

My last failed enamelware item was a dishpan. JB Weld after acid prep
worked but didn't last. No new enamel dishpans in store (although
they do have the canning kettles you speak of) so I made a dishpan
from 16 ga. m/s. (From pieces, welded up, not raised in one piece.)
Will last my kids' lifetimes after they inherit it. A little heavier
than its predecessor.

--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

"Mike Spencer" wrote in message
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Stop-gap: Very small flat-headed stainless bolt through the hole.
Thin stainless washers either side, leather or silicone washers
under
the metal ones & against the kettle surface. If the hole is in a
curved
surface, you have to shape the metal washers to fit before
installing.
--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

I did that to a water heater tank used as a solar heater. I filed the
hole into an oval slot and located the 2 tapped holes in the larger
patch at the ends of the oval so it could be correctly positioned
inside the tank, using one protruding screw as the handle.

It was sealed with a sheet rubber gasket and rust-inhibiting LPS-100
grease. It lasted until the tank failed in other places about 2 years
later.

I wonder if a rivet and vitreous enamel frit would work:
http://musickstudio.com/process.htm

-jsw

"Mike Spencer" wrote in message
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BTW rubber horse feed buckets sold in farm stores like Tractor Supply
are nearly indestructible. I store and carry my heavy chain falls in
them and put them underneath when hoisting outdoors to keep the hand
chain out of the dirt. They are also good to move rocks or mix cement.

I used to use galvanized buckets but the noise of the chain running in
and out is very loud.

On 10/25/2018 9:32 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
Hello all,

I have a friend that has a large baked porcelain pot used for
the canning process. Dimensions about 18" Diameter and maybe 16" Deep
Used on a stove to boil water with canning jars inside on a metal rack
for a period of time till done, etc.

There is a small hole at the bottom outside radius corner.Â* Needless to
say the hole will not allow water to retain itself within the pot and
most likely will extinguish any flames that are applied to the pot.

The desire is to patch the hole without doing serious damage to
the rest of the pot.Â* Anyone have any knowledge on what type
of repair will work the best with this "Holy Pot"??

Thanks for all of the expert and otherwise suggestions.

Les

Thanks all,

I will pass on and maybe there is an answer imbedded it the content.

Have a good weekend.

Les

On 26 Oct 2018 03:52:39 -0300, Mike Spencer
wrote:


ABLE1 writes:

I have a friend that has a large baked porcelain pot used for
the canning process. Dimensions about 18" Diameter and maybe 16" Deep
Used on a stove to boil water with canning jars inside on a metal rack
for a period of time till done, etc.

There is a small hole at the bottom outside radius corner. Needless to
say the hole will not allow water to retain itself within the pot and
most likely will extinguish any flames that are applied to the pot.

The desire is to patch the hole without doing serious damage to
the rest of the pot. Anyone have any knowledge on what type
of repair will work the best with this "Holy Pot"??

My experience from a couple of decades on a near-zero budget, canning,
preserving, no electricity etc. and maintaining everything as cheaply
as possible is that nothing works really well for enamelware. Usual
cause of a hole is rust following chipped enamel. By the time you've
cleaned back to good metal for soldering or even JB Weld, you have a
big hole instead of a small one.

Stop-gap: Very small flat-headed stainless bolt through the hole.
Thin stainless washers either side, leather or silicone washers under
the metal ones & against the kettle surface. If the hole is in a curved
surface, you have to shape the metal washers to fit before installing.


AKA a "Tinker's Dam"

Such bolts, complete with washers and leathers, intended for such
repairs, used to be in hardware stores. I have some but haven't seen
them in the store for decades.

My last failed enamelware item was a dishpan. JB Weld after acid prep
worked but didn't last. No new enamel dishpans in store (although
they do have the canning kettles you speak of) so I made a dishpan
from 16 ga. m/s. (From pieces, welded up, not raised in one piece.)
Will last my kids' lifetimes after they inherit it. A little heavier
than its predecessor.

On 10/26/2018 9:39 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On 26 Oct 2018 03:52:39 -0300, Mike Spencer
wrote:

AKA a "Tinker's Dam"

Such bolts, complete with washers and leathers, intended for such
repairs, used to be in hardware stores. I have some but haven't seen
them in the store for decades.

My last failed enamelware item was a dishpan. JB Weld after acid prep
worked but didn't last. No new enamel dishpans in store (although
they do have the canning kettles you speak of) so I made a dishpan
from 16 ga. m/s. (From pieces, welded up, not raised in one piece.)
Will last my kids' lifetimes after they inherit it. A little heavier
than its predecessor.

Did you use the JB weld on the inside? I don't think you could heat it
much over water's boiling point.

gray_wolf writes:

On 26 Oct 2018 03:52:39 -0300, Mike Spencer

My last failed enamelware item was a dishpan. JB Weld after acid prep
worked but didn't last.

Did you use the JB weld on the inside? I don't think you could heat it
much over water's boiling point.

Well, there was a *hole*, y'know? So inside and outside both. And we
don't wash dishes in boiling water. But no, JB Weld doesn't do well
on things placed directly on the top of the wood-fired kitchen range.


--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

"Mike Spencer" wrote in message
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gray_wolf writes:

On 26 Oct 2018 03:52:39 -0300, Mike Spencer

My last failed enamelware item was a dishpan. JB Weld after acid
prep
worked but didn't last.

Did you use the JB weld on the inside? I don't think you could heat
it
much over water's boiling point.

Well, there was a *hole*, y'know? So inside and outside both. And
we
don't wash dishes in boiling water. But no, JB Weld doesn't do well
on things placed directly on the top of the wood-fired kitchen
range.
--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

JB Weld didn't last in the sandblasted fender rust-throughs on my car
either. This time instead of carefully inletting a flush steel patch I
overlapped the patch inside and rebuilt the fender curves with an edge
reinforcement of MIG bead and Bondo.

I just bought an 8 quart stainless kettle to try cooking a roast on
the woodstove the way the store meat dept manager suggested, under a
larger inverted kettle. When filled it leaked at the handle rivets,
which called for a bit of hammer and anvil work.
-jsw.

On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 18:27:31 -0400, ABLE1
wrote:

On 10/25/2018 9:32 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
Hello all,

I have a friend that has a large baked porcelain pot used for
the canning process. Dimensions about 18" Diameter and maybe 16" Deep
Used on a stove to boil water with canning jars inside on a metal rack
for a period of time till done, etc.

There is a small hole at the bottom outside radius corner.* Needless to
say the hole will not allow water to retain itself within the pot and
most likely will extinguish any flames that are applied to the pot.

The desire is to patch the hole without doing serious damage to
the rest of the pot.* Anyone have any knowledge on what type
of repair will work the best with this "Holy Pot"??

Thanks for all of the expert and otherwise suggestions.

Les

Thanks all,

I will pass on and maybe there is an answer imbedded it the content.

Have a good weekend.

Les

There really is no good way to repair an enamelware container that has
rusted through. Best thing to do is retire it to a place it can be
visually enjoyed and spend $30 and buy a nice aluminum or stainless
steel one.

Gunner
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On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 6:33:04 PM UTC-7, ABLE1 wrote:


I have a friend that has a large baked porcelain pot used for
the canning process....

There is a small hole at the bottom outside radius corner.

I've successfully repaired porcelain/steel once, when a hole opened
up in a dishwasher tub. I cleaned the spot, applied silicone RTV in a
thick blob. When it started to stiffen, I covered it with a bit of Glad-wrap, then
pushed the silicone into a hill over the bad spot.

After it cured, it didn't leak again.

It's possible some silicone RTV products won't take the temperature,
or that some fillers aren't food-safe, though. Maybe for canning (with no
direct food/water contact) it's OK, though.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 14:45:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
wrote:

On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 6:33:04 PM UTC-7, ABLE1 wrote:


I have a friend that has a large baked porcelain pot used for
the canning process....

There is a small hole at the bottom outside radius corner.

I've successfully repaired porcelain/steel once, when a hole opened
up in a dishwasher tub. I cleaned the spot, applied silicone RTV in a
thick blob. When it started to stiffen, I covered it with a bit of Glad-wrap, then
pushed the silicone into a hill over the bad spot.

After it cured, it didn't leak again.

It's possible some silicone RTV products won't take the temperature,
or that some fillers aren't food-safe, though. Maybe for canning (with no
direct food/water contact) it's OK, though.

There are a number of "High Temp" RTVs..but one would have to think
that given that a drier only has hot air running on it..versus open
flame or direct heat from a electric element on a stove.....shrug.

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"Poor widdle Wudy...mentally ill, lies constantly, doesnt know who he is, or even what gender "he" is.

No more pathetic creature has ever walked the earth. But...he is locked into a mental hospital for the safety of the public.

Which is a very good thing."

Asun rauhassa, valmistaudun sotaan.


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