On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 5:20:33 PM UTC-5, wrote:
A couple weeks ago I had to tap 50 parts with a 2-56 roll form tap.
The material was 303, which is easy to form tap. But taps started
breaking right away. I use good taps, in this case Balax taps were
used with the proper coating for SS. I have tapped thousands of 2-56
holes in all sorts of materials and I hardly ever break a tap. After
breaking 3 taps I knew something was really wrong. So I tapped the
next part by hand and could feel the torque required was way too high.
Upon inspecting the tap under magnification it was obvious that the
coating was failing and the tap was galled. I was using a high sulfur
cutting oil because the high sulfur content is good for high pressure.
Changing the cutting oil solved the problem. I have NEVER had this
kind of problem. I don't know why the first oil I used was causing
such a problem. Maybe because 303 also has sulfur added? I have been
tapping with form taps for over 40 years. I use all sorts of different
taps, both cutting and forming, and have tapped many very difficult to
tap materials. The smallest taps I have used were 00-96. I didn't
break any of them. Anyway, I just though I would pass this along.
Eric

Chinese/Korean steel has been in the news lately.
Anyway from the web:
"Cold Working Minor deformation is possible with this alloy, although it is not its strong point. Type 303 Se is superior in this aspect."

On Thu, 17 May 2018 05:38:20 -0700 (PDT), wws
wrote:

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 5:20:33 PM UTC-5, wrote:
A couple weeks ago I had to tap 50 parts with a 2-56 roll form tap.
The material was 303, which is easy to form tap. But taps started
breaking right away. I use good taps, in this case Balax taps were
used with the proper coating for SS. I have tapped thousands of 2-56
holes in all sorts of materials and I hardly ever break a tap. After
breaking 3 taps I knew something was really wrong. So I tapped the
next part by hand and could feel the torque required was way too high.
Upon inspecting the tap under magnification it was obvious that the
coating was failing and the tap was galled. I was using a high sulfur
cutting oil because the high sulfur content is good for high pressure.
Changing the cutting oil solved the problem. I have NEVER had this
kind of problem. I don't know why the first oil I used was causing
such a problem. Maybe because 303 also has sulfur added? I have been
tapping with form taps for over 40 years. I use all sorts of different
taps, both cutting and forming, and have tapped many very difficult to
tap materials. The smallest taps I have used were 00-96. I didn't
break any of them. Anyway, I just though I would pass this along.
Eric

Chinese/Korean steel has been in the news lately.
Anyway from the web:
"Cold Working Minor deformation is possible with this alloy, although it is not its strong point. Type 303 Se is superior in this aspect."

True indeed. Client had some problems with Korean 303 last week in
fact. Wouldnt turn worth a .. and looked like it was completely
burred after it was turned. Put in a scrap of known Good 303...turns
were perfect. He sent all 9000 lbs back to the distributor and they
sent him better stuff.


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