We're planning our next vacation for next year, Ireland and Scotland.
Looking for suggestions on museums featuring machining, machinery,
steam, etc. We have no city by city itinerary yet, so wide open on
locations.

Jon

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We're planning our next vacation for next year, Ireland and
Scotland.
Looking for suggestions on museums featuring machining, machinery,
steam, etc. We have no city by city itinerary yet, so wide open on
locations.

Jon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ms_in_Scotland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rthern_Ireland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lic_of_Ireland

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We're planning our next vacation for next year, Ireland and Scotland.
Looking for suggestions on museums featuring machining, machinery,
steam, etc. We have no city by city itinerary yet, so wide open on
locations.

Near Belfast; Transport Museum at Cultra;
https://www.nmni.com/our-museums/uls...and-transport-
museum/Home.aspx
--
Chris Holford

On Sat, 5 May 2018 18:37:11 +1000, Jon Anderson
wrote:

We're planning our next vacation for next year, Ireland and Scotland.
Looking for suggestions on museums featuring machining, machinery,
steam, etc. We have no city by city itinerary yet, so wide open on
locations.

Sounds like a grand plan, Jon. Don't forget to check out Hogwarts
when you get to Scotland.

Maybe check out some of the books on the Industrial Revolution
centering on those 2 countries to get a better idea of who did what
where, then look for history following them. Got a good library down
there?


I'd avoid London if at all humanly possible, if you're touring
England, too. (Beirut is probably safer nowadays.)

--
If we can ever make red tape nutritional, we can feed the world.
--Robert Schaeberle

On 5/05/2018 8:35 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ms_in_Scotland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rthern_Ireland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lic_of_Ireland

Yeah, thanks, found those readily. Should have been more specific I see.
Was hoping for personal recommendations. There's only a couple that look
to maybe have good manufacturing exhibits. That topic is on my list,
there's plenty of topics of interest to both of us. Don't want to spend
couple hours driving to a museum of interest to me and be disappointed.

For instance, the National Museum of Scotland has a rather bland
description of displays. Saw a post in a FB group that showed there's
some interesting displays of early manufacturing machinery/tooling.


Jon

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On 6/05/2018 7:23 AM, Chris Holford wrote:

https://www.nmni.com/our-museums/uls...and-transport-
museum/Home.aspx

Thanks for that!

Jon

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On 6/05/2018 11:40 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Sounds like a grand plan, Jon. Don't forget to check out Hogwarts
when you get to Scotland.

Game of Thrones tour, couple other sites TBD, then Scotland, where
wife's family came from.

Maybe check out some of the books on the Industrial Revolution
centering on those 2 countries to get a better idea of who did what
where, then look for history following them. Got a good library down
there?

Got a library... G It's at least a year out, plenty of time for research.

I'd avoid London if at all humanly possible, if you're touring
England, too. (Beirut is probably safer nowadays.)

Can fly direct to Edinburgh, no desire to visit London, though there are
lots of interesting sights to see.

Jon

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On 06/05/18 22:13, Jon Anderson wrote:
On 6/05/2018 11:40 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Sounds like a grand plan, Jon.Â* Don't forget to check out Hogwarts
when you get to Scotland.Â*

Game of Thrones tour, couple other sites TBD, then Scotland, where
wife's family came from.

Maybe check out some of the books on the Industrial Revolution
centering on those 2 countries to get a better idea of who did what
where, then look for history following them. Got a good library down
there?

Got a library... G It's at least a year out, plenty of time for
research.

I'd avoid London if at all humanly possible, if you're touring
England, too.Â* (Beirut is probably safer nowadays.)

Can fly direct to Edinburgh, no desire to visit London, though there
are lots of interesting sights to see.

Jon

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London is good but I only do it in small doses, you have the benefit of
the Science Museum, the V&A and the Natural history Museum and others. I
can only do about 3 or 4 galleries in the V&A before my mind is
overwhelmed by all the beautiful objects. Maybe consider posting on
uk.rec.models.engineering for more local knowledge.

In article , Jon Anderson
writes
On 6/05/2018 7:23 AM, Chris Holford wrote:

https://www.nmni.com/our-museums/uls...and-transport-
museum/Home.aspx

Thanks for that!
This map links to a series of articles on lesser-known
sites of technical interest;
http://www.gypsythief.org.uk/GeeksMapToBritain/
--
Chris Holford

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On 5/05/2018 8:35 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ms_in_Scotland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rthern_Ireland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lic_of_Ireland

Yeah, thanks, found those readily. Should have been more specific I
see.
Was hoping for personal recommendations. There's only a couple that
look to maybe have good manufacturing exhibits. That topic is on my
list, there's plenty of topics of interest to both of us. Don't want
to spend couple hours driving to a museum of interest to me and be
disappointed.

For instance, the National Museum of Scotland has a rather bland
description of displays. Saw a post in a FB group that showed
there's some interesting displays of early manufacturing
machinery/tooling.


Jon

I posted the catalogs because somone who visited in person may not
remember the name or location. For years I confused Schloss
Hohenzollern which I visited with Schloss Sigmaringen that I didn't.

On Mon, 7 May 2018 07:13:09 +1000, Jon Anderson
wrote:

On 6/05/2018 11:40 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Sounds like a grand plan, Jon. Don't forget to check out Hogwarts
when you get to Scotland.

Game of Thrones tour, couple other sites TBD, then Scotland, where
wife's family came from.

Maybe check out some of the books on the Industrial Revolution
centering on those 2 countries to get a better idea of who did what
where, then look for history following them. Got a good library down
there?

Got a library... G It's at least a year out, plenty of time for research.

I'd avoid London if at all humanly possible, if you're touring
England, too. (Beirut is probably safer nowadays.)

Can fly direct to Edinburgh, no desire to visit London, though there are
lots of interesting sights to see.

Jon

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One of my favorite London museums was the Kew Bridge Steam Museum, now
called the London Museum of Water and Steam. I used to like the
Science Museum. It had a very large model ship floor, plus a
fantastic mill engine on the main floor. Lots of other early steam,
too. It may have been "curated" since my first visit. Last time it
was closed for renovations.

The Tower was great the first time, huge collections on display. The
last visit, it had been "curated" too, most of the really interesting
stuff hidden away, and more or less a narration they wanted visitors
to follow.

The Imperial War Museum was a good one. Enigma machine on display,
captured German stuff, etc.

I also liked the Greenwich Royal Observatory with the first
chronometers. My youngest son was ****ed when we looked at the prime
meridian and he finally snapped to what it meant. I used to listen to
"Station WWV, Fort Collins Colorado" to get the time, and snickered
about "Universal Coordinated Time". I began always calling it
"Intergalactic Space Cadet Time". For years, he thought that was the
real name.

Pete Keillor

On 7/05/2018 9:04 PM, Pete Keillor wrote:

One of my favorite London museums was the Kew Bridge Steam Museum, now
called the London Museum of Water and Steam. I used to like the
Science Museum. It had a very large model ship floor, plus a
fantastic mill engine on the main floor. Lots of other early steam,
too. It may have been "curated" since my first visit. Last time it
was closed for renovations.

The Tower was great the first time, huge collections on display. The
last visit, it had been "curated" too, most of the really interesting
stuff hidden away, and more or less a narration they wanted visitors
to follow.

The Imperial War Museum was a good one. Enigma machine on display,
captured German stuff, etc.

Thanks Pete,

Due to budget constraints, will have to pass through London w/overnight
stay, so will see if we can get to any of these.

Jon

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On Sun, 6 May 2018 22:26:36 +0100, David Billington
wrote:

On 06/05/18 22:13, Jon Anderson wrote:
On 6/05/2018 11:40 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Sounds like a grand plan, Jon.* Don't forget to check out Hogwarts
when you get to Scotland.*

Game of Thrones tour, couple other sites TBD, then Scotland, where
wife's family came from.

Maybe check out some of the books on the Industrial Revolution
centering on those 2 countries to get a better idea of who did what
where, then look for history following them. Got a good library down
there?

Got a library... G It's at least a year out, plenty of time for
research.

I'd avoid London if at all humanly possible, if you're touring
England, too.* (Beirut is probably safer nowadays.)

Can fly direct to Edinburgh, no desire to visit London, though there
are lots of interesting sights to see.

Jon

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London is good but I only do it in small doses, you have the benefit of
the Science Museum, the V&A and the Natural history Museum and others. I
can only do about 3 or 4 galleries in the V&A before my mind is
overwhelmed by all the beautiful objects. Maybe consider posting on
uk.rec.models.engineering for more local knowledge.

Terrorist bombings, acid attacks, knifings, shootings, rapes, homeless
refugees on the streets. Yeah, sure "London is good". When is the
last time you were there, David? The crime rate in London just
surpassed NYC recently. Sadist Khan (mayor) is quietly supporting
Sharia Law. Labor is mucking up business, etc.

--
If we can ever make red tape nutritional, we can feed the world.
--Robert Schaeberle

On 07/05/18 17:40, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 6 May 2018 22:26:36 +0100, David Billington
wrote:

On 06/05/18 22:13, Jon Anderson wrote:
On 6/05/2018 11:40 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Sounds like a grand plan, Jon.Â* Don't forget to check out Hogwarts
when you get to Scotland.Â*
Game of Thrones tour, couple other sites TBD, then Scotland, where
wife's family came from.

Maybe check out some of the books on the Industrial Revolution
centering on those 2 countries to get a better idea of who did what
where, then look for history following them. Got a good library down
there?
Got a library... G It's at least a year out, plenty of time for
research.

I'd avoid London if at all humanly possible, if you're touring
England, too.Â* (Beirut is probably safer nowadays.)
Can fly direct to Edinburgh, no desire to visit London, though there
are lots of interesting sights to see.

Jon

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London is good but I only do it in small doses, you have the benefit of
the Science Museum, the V&A and the Natural history Museum and others. I
can only do about 3 or 4 galleries in the V&A before my mind is
overwhelmed by all the beautiful objects. Maybe consider posting on
uk.rec.models.engineering for more local knowledge.
Terrorist bombings, acid attacks, knifings, shootings, rapes, homeless
refugees on the streets. Yeah, sure "London is good". When is the
last time you were there, David? The crime rate in London just
surpassed NYC recently. Sadist Khan (mayor) is quietly supporting
Sharia Law. Labor is mucking up business, etc.

--
If we can ever make red tape nutritional, we can feed the world.
--Robert Schaeberle

Last time I was in London was a couple of years ago and I'd rather go
there than NYC any day even with the current headlines.

On Mon, 07 May 2018 06:04:05 -0500, Pete Keillor
wrote:

On Mon, 7 May 2018 07:13:09 +1000, Jon Anderson
wrote:

On 6/05/2018 11:40 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Sounds like a grand plan, Jon. Don't forget to check out Hogwarts
when you get to Scotland.

Game of Thrones tour, couple other sites TBD, then Scotland, where
wife's family came from.

Maybe check out some of the books on the Industrial Revolution
centering on those 2 countries to get a better idea of who did what
where, then look for history following them. Got a good library down
there?

Got a library... G It's at least a year out, plenty of time for research.

I'd avoid London if at all humanly possible, if you're touring
England, too. (Beirut is probably safer nowadays.)

Can fly direct to Edinburgh, no desire to visit London, though there are
lots of interesting sights to see.

Jon

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One of my favorite London museums was the Kew Bridge Steam Museum, now
called the London Museum of Water and Steam. I used to like the
Science Museum. It had a very large model ship floor, plus a
fantastic mill engine on the main floor. Lots of other early steam,
too. It may have been "curated" since my first visit. Last time it
was closed for renovations.

I'm with you on Kew Bridge; if you are interested in aviation, Hendon
is worth a couple or more days. It has bee 13 years though so things
may have changed.


The Tower was great the first time, huge collections on display. The
last visit, it had been "curated" too, most of the really interesting
stuff hidden away, and more or less a narration they wanted visitors
to follow.

The Imperial War Museum was a good one. Enigma machine on display,
captured German stuff, etc.

I also liked the Greenwich Royal Observatory with the first
chronometers. My youngest son was ****ed when we looked at the prime
meridian and he finally snapped to what it meant. I used to listen to
"Station WWV, Fort Collins Colorado" to get the time, and snickered
about "Universal Coordinated Time". I began always calling it
"Intergalactic Space Cadet Time". For years, he thought that was the
real name.

Pete Keillor