Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Michael A Terrell" wrote in message
...
Jim Wilkins wrote:


Thee were no grounding manuals availabe to the CATV industry, so
I used common sense to protect the equipment. ... ....
This all happened in 1982.

Now thanks to the Net we have almost too much information, some hard
to find or conflicting:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/ante...x-man-2005.pdf

"are-fifty-six-man-2005.pdf" ???

At Mitre I was reorganized from a digital communications department to
a radio one, of which I knew almost nothing. The company accommodated
us transferees by having a retired British radar boffin teach the
amateur radio class. In return we helped him maintain his extensive
home installation. I was the ground-level assistant to the tower
climber.

He didn't have an elevator on his tower?

That website is written by ham radio types, not engineers. A lot of
it is rule of thumb, and old wives tales.

Motorola has some hard rules about prepping a site for their
equipment, but I haven't seen it. I se it mentioned on a Facebook group
for Broadcast Engineers.

The last tower site I worked at was 1700 feet. It had antennas for
two TV stations, five FM stations and a lot of trunking radio systems.
The trunking radios were put out of business by cell phones.

My first visit to the station was on a cloudy night. Part of the
tower was hidden by the clouds.

On 12/28/2017 2:09 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 13:52:42 -0500, Tom Gardner
wrote:

On 12/26/2017 12:51 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:
What a small, hateful person you are!

I'm really not.Â* Mark Wieber is, though - only a small, hateful person
could routinely call for the murder of people who say things he finds
politically unpleasant.

Why do you and Terrell and Jaques all throw in with such a hateful piece
of **** as Wieber?Â* What do you think that says about you?

It shows me that your one-upsmanship is such a winning strategy. Why
don't you go over there and kill his dogs? That will show him! And,
you will easily win the philosophical high ground.


Perhaps its because Richard realizes that attempting such...will win
him an unmarked grave.

Gardner is groaning over that, Wieber. It proves that I am right to
revile him for siding with you - you really *do* threaten people you
don't know with murder.

He is afterall..a blatant coward. through and through.

Why else would he use anonomous remailers

Nope.

and 914 (to date) nyms..

Nope. You haven't counted. I've used no more than 100 in my entire 18
years in Usenet.

but to hide from retribution?

That's not the reason. I know - everyone knows - there will be no
"retribution". You're an empty woofing coward. You will never do
anything to cause harm or death to anyone. That is beyond dispute.

On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents. Â*Started out to
be 8 of them. Â*I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make these 4 all
very similar. Â*Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. Â*Still I have enough for
the most important people. Â*They use either Parker refills or Fisher
Space Pen refills.Â* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice! Simple mechanism too. Now about a pocket clip..and a price?


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Too much work to sell. I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet. The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20 to $50
on Fleabay. The way I made these there is no way I could afford to sell
them that cheap. I did think about it though. If I made a couple sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper and grip
lines of the body. Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker. I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 17:20:31 -0500, Michael A Terrell
wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:14:05 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 12:53 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents. Started
out to
be 8 of them. I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make these
4 all
very similar. Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong
speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the catch.
Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. Still I have enough
for
the most important people. They use either Parker refills or
Fisher
Space Pen refills. I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills for
the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg

Nice. How does the TSA react to these nowadays? I've heard mixed
reviews. Some "tactical pens" are passed, some are confiscated,
and
some arrests were made.

--
Now therefore, be it Resolved by the Fiftieth Annual Convention
of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, That we
hereby declare that we are unalterably opposed to any program
which would entail the surrender of any part of the sovereignty
of the United States of America in favor of a world government.

--Veterans of Foreign Wars


No clue. I haven't flown in years. I refuse to be treated like a
subject. I'll fly if I have to, but I find I don't often have to.

I hear that.

The last time I flew, the guy at the TSA x-ray told me to take off
my
shoes and belt. I laughed, thinking he was joking and he didn't
reply. He repeated it as the two Nat'l Guardsmen with M-16s took a
step forward. I loudly said COMPLIANCE and hurriedly removed them
and set them in the bucket for scanning. That was mid-morning the
day
the "shoe bomber" had been nabbed. I was flying to Alaska for my
50th
birthday 14 years ago. My Nikes and belt passed OK and the
Guardsmen
stepped back. Interesting morning. Later, I saw the flash on the
right wing, the plane shuddered, and a loud crack sounded. We were
struck by lightning on approach to SeaTac. The cabin lights dimmed,
but the engines didn't skip a beat. 'Twas me first strike.

https://www.quora.com/Can-lightning-...fect-as-an-EMP



If you've ever worked around a tower that was struck by lightning,
you'll know first hand what that induced magnetic pulse can do to
unshielded circuits. I spent hours on cross country phone calls
arranging for replacement parts, and had one of the techs waiting at the
airport for them to arrive after losing audio on every satellite
delivered channel on a CATV system because o the manager's attitude of,
'It's just audio, why waste money on shielded cable'? The $20 he saved
caused us to spend over $1000 to repair.

Ya gotta love "upper" management, don't ya?

--
Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplacable spark.

In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and
the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.

The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
it is possible, it is yours.
-- Ayn Rand

On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 18:26:44 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Michael A Terrell" wrote in message
...
Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:14:05 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 12:53 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe

wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents. Started
out to
be 8 of them. I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make
these
4 all
very similar. Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong
speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the
catch.
Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. Still I have
enough
for
the most important people. They use either Parker refills or
Fisher
Space Pen refills. I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills for
the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg

Nice. How does the TSA react to these nowadays? I've heard
mixed
reviews. Some "tactical pens" are passed, some are confiscated,
and
some arrests were made.

--
Now therefore, be it Resolved by the Fiftieth Annual Convention
of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, That we
hereby declare that we are unalterably opposed to any program
which would entail the surrender of any part of the sovereignty
of the United States of America in favor of a world government.

--Veterans of Foreign Wars


No clue. I haven't flown in years. I refuse to be treated like
a
subject. I'll fly if I have to, but I find I don't often have to.

I hear that.

The last time I flew, the guy at the TSA x-ray told me to take off
my
shoes and belt. I laughed, thinking he was joking and he didn't
reply. He repeated it as the two Nat'l Guardsmen with M-16s took
a
step forward. I loudly said COMPLIANCE and hurriedly removed
them
and set them in the bucket for scanning. That was mid-morning the
day
the "shoe bomber" had been nabbed. I was flying to Alaska for my
50th
birthday 14 years ago. My Nikes and belt passed OK and the
Guardsmen
stepped back. Interesting morning. Later, I saw the flash on the
right wing, the plane shuddered, and a loud crack sounded. We
were
struck by lightning on approach to SeaTac. The cabin lights
dimmed,
but the engines didn't skip a beat. 'Twas me first strike.

https://www.quora.com/Can-lightning-...fect-as-an-EMP



If you've ever worked around a tower that was struck by
lightning, you'll know first hand what that induced magnetic pulse
can do to unshielded circuits. I spent hours on cross country phone
calls arranging for replacement parts, and had one of the techs
waiting at the airport for them to arrive after losing audio on
every satellite delivered channel on a CATV system because o the
manager's attitude of, 'It's just audio, why waste money on shielded
cable'? The $20 he saved caused us to spend over $1000 to repair.


Our satcom antennas in domes atop military aircraft were protected
like this:
http://lightningdiversion.com/home/diversion-strips/

https://theaviationist.com/wp-conten...-8C-JSTARS.jpg

What did you use as a reference manual for antenna grounding? My home
antenna mast is next to a granite outcrop that keeps me from
installing the multiple radials I'd like to have.

Did I just hear little Gunner's little friend, Tristy, say "Ground it
to the gas pipe."?

--
Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplacable spark.

In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and
the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.

The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
it is possible, it is yours.
-- Ayn Rand

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 07:46:39 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Michael A Terrell" wrote in message
...
Jim Wilkins wrote:


Thee were no grounding manuals availabe to the CATV industry, so
I used common sense to protect the equipment. ... ....
This all happened in 1982.

Wow, the monthly electric bill for all that must have been staggering.


Now thanks to the Net we have almost too much information, some hard
to find or conflicting:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/ante...x-man-2005.pdf

"are-fifty-six-man-2005.pdf" ???

Looks like some of my sister's emails. She uses Google Voice to Text
convertor.


At Mitre I was reorganized from a digital communications department to
a radio one, of which I knew almost nothing. The company accommodated
us transferees by having a retired British radar boffin teach the
amateur radio class. In return we helped him maintain his extensive
home installation. I was the ground-level assistant to the tower
climber.

And proud to be on the ground, no doubt?

--
Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplacable spark.

In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and
the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.

The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
it is possible, it is yours.
-- Ayn Rand

Larry Jaques wrote:
Michael A Terrell wrote:

If you've ever worked around a tower that was struck by lightning,
you'll know first hand what that induced magnetic pulse can do to
unshielded circuits. I spent hours on cross country phone calls
arranging for replacement parts, and had one of the techs waiting at
the airport for them to arrive after losing audio on every satellite
delivered channel on a CATV system because o the manager's attitude
of, 'It's just audio, why waste money on shielded cable'? The $20
he saved caused us to spend over $1000 to repair.

Ya gotta love "upper" management, don't ya?


They hired an expert in RF system design from a college, since it was
their first 'Million Dollar Headend'. It looked like it was laid out by
a drunken teenager who had only seen an I-pad.

The room had it's own air conditioning, yet equipment was
overheating. The audio and video wiring was crap, and anything as
grounded, other than through their power cords or several hundred feet
of RG6/U, and then through 130 feet of tower.

I moved all the racks slightly, and some of the equipment
temperature dropped by over 40 degrees. Some of the moves were for the
improved grounding, while the others were done to improve airflow.

The 'man' who replaced the designer was even worse. He was the one
who hired me, and he bragged about all of the stupid things he'd done at
other CATV systems, including how many bucket trucks that he'd wrecked.
His name was 'Bliss', and he was an idiot. He would set the video levels
without terminating the waveform monitor. The Collins had 4 Volt
unterminated output, instead of the 1 volt terminated that was industry
standard. He insisted that Tektronix knew nothing about video test
equipment, even though 95% of all video waveform monitors were built by
them.

I also caught an overheating three phase power panel that he tried
to brush off as not important. That cost us a couple thousand dollars to
repair. The neutral was undersized for electronic loads, and the
harmonics had the wire too hot to touch. You could feel the heat, just
by walking past the panel.

He refused to replace the desiccant cartridges in the pressurization
system for the Heliax to the 5 meter dish. We ended up wit gallons of
green water inside that expense cable.

When they fired him for sexual harassment, they walked in a brand
new VP, with a new manager from our smallest systems. He ****ed me off
by telling me that "Any service company would be proud to have our
work", so I gave two weeks notice. I spent part of my last week
installing all new C-band microwave equipment, because Collins/Rockwell
would no longer service it, and none of those service companies would
touch it. I routinely rebuilt the Collins equipment in house for our
system, and other systems owned by United Video.

On 12/27/2017 5:03 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
news
On 12/26/2017 12:51 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:
What a small, hateful person you are!

I'm really not. Mark Wieber is, though - only a small, hateful
person could routinely call for the murder of people who say things
he finds politically unpleasant.

Why do you and Terrell and Jaques all throw in with such a hateful
piece of **** as Wieber? What do you think that says about you?

It shows me that your one-upsmanship is such a winning strategy.
Why don't you go over there and kill his dogs? That will show him!
And, you will easily win the philosophical high ground.


Careful, Tom, you're inciting the disturbed mind of an obsessed
stalker.



I think it's a romantic thing. Like dipping Gunner's pigtails in the
inkwell. And in return, Gunner should dip his something in the something.

On 12/28/2017 5:09 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Why else would he use anonomous remailers and 914 (to date) nyms..but
to hide from retribution?


Face it, he's got a crush on you! Kinmda' makes your but tingle...don't it?

On 12/28/2017 12:04 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:

Nope.Â* You haven't counted.Â* I've used no more than 100 in my entire 18
years in Usenet.

but to hide from retribution?

That's not the reason.Â* I know - everyone knows - there will be no
"retribution".Â* You're an empty woofing coward.Â* You will never do
anything to cause harm or death to anyone.Â* That is beyond dispute.

We all know the reason..."Hot monkey love!" Why else would you want
pictures of Gunner's crotch?

On 12/26/2017 1:01 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:

How do *I* have a flaw in my soul for mocking someone who routinely
calls for the murder of people he doesn't even know?Â* Why do you people
throw in with a vile, murder-advocating cretin who is stealing from you?

Cuz' most people agree with Gunner, you should cease to exist!

On 12/26/2017 11:50 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

No wonder you cant get any traction when you use yourself as such a
person.



Not worth fuel for the backhoe,

On 12/27/2017 1:32 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:

No wonderÂ* you cant get any traction when you use yourself as such a
person.

I get full traction.Â* Meanwhile, you're still unemployable and
scrounging off the dole.

Full traction in what? Don't you get it? Nobody even likes you a
little! At least Gunner is lovable. I'd hire half a Gunner over a dozen
of you!

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:48:07 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents. *Started out to
be 8 of them. *I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make these 4 all
very similar. *Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. *Still I have enough for
the most important people. *They use either Parker refills or Fisher
Space Pen refills.* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice! Simple mechanism too. Now about a pocket clip..and a price?


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Too much work to sell. I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet. The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20 to $50
on Fleabay. The way I made these there is no way I could afford to sell
them that cheap. I did think about it though. If I made a couple sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper and grip
lines of the body. Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker. I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

I carry the Uzi Tactical Pen quite often

http://gearmoose.com/the-10-best-tactical-pens/

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:48:07 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents. *Started out to
be 8 of them. *I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make these 4 all
very similar. *Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. *Still I have enough for
the most important people. *They use either Parker refills or Fisher
Space Pen refills.* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice! Simple mechanism too. Now about a pocket clip..and a price?


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Too much work to sell. I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet. The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20 to $50
on Fleabay. The way I made these there is no way I could afford to sell
them that cheap. I did think about it though. If I made a couple sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper and grip
lines of the body. Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker. I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...pe n&_sacat=0

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...l+pen&_sacat=0

"Michael A Terrell" wrote in message
...

They hired an expert in RF system design from a college, since it
was their first 'Million Dollar Headend'. It looked like it was laid
out by a drunken teenager who had only seen an I-pad.

My degree is in Chemistry, a very hands-on field in which you may not
have an assistant, so we learned the practice as well as the theory. I
haven't often seen the same from many recent electrical and mechanical
engineering graduates or the co-op undergrads I rode herd on. After
they left I redesigned their circuits with half the components, which
mattered when packed into a Xilinx chip.
https://www.wpi.edu/student-experien...lopment/co-ops

I picked up a lot of practical knowledge from the manufacturers' data
sheets I studied to learn how to use their products. Switches and
fuses for instance aren't that simple if you need to push their
capabilities while expecting long life.
http://www.littelfuse.com/~/media/au..._fuseology.pdf
One young engineer kept asking me for Polaroid scope camera film by
the case, until I showed him that data sheet which answered all his
questions.

The 30A output breaker on my welding transformer power supply can hold
70A for a few seconds, to quickly measure diode drop etc. At 300A it's
rated to open but not necessarily to close ever again.
-jsw

Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Michael A Terrell" wrote in message
...

They hired an expert in RF system design from a college, since it
was their first 'Million Dollar Headend'. It looked like it was laid
out by a drunken teenager who had only seen an I-pad.

My degree is in Chemistry, a very hands-on field in which you may not
have an assistant, so we learned the practice as well as the theory.


This guy was a professor who was teaching CATV system design. I
wrote a simple program in Basic for a Commodore 64 computer to calculate
cable loss, and the insertion loss of line taps. You could select any
brand of hardline, in any available size by the OEM part number, along
with the taps by their OEM numbers. You entered the source level, and
the amplifier gains, then the distance between taps, and the number of
ports at each tap. It also allowed multiple bridging outputs per trunk
amplifier, and to help decide which direction it was to be run from.
Sometimes it allowed you to eliminate an expensive line extender
amplifier. Every amplifier you could eliminate from the design reduced
the electrical load, and improved system reliability. The electric
company charged you for a full line load from each of the 60 VAC, 30A
modified square wave power transformers, rather than meter the power
input for each. They were ferro-resonant transformers made famous bu Sola.

It did the strand map information in seconds, that took this bozo
hours to do. The only assistant in this type of work was someone who
drew the actual maps that showed the location f the hardware on
existing, and private poles, or underground installs.

I designed an interconnect between two CATV systems for their
community loops, to provide a private system for the local schools. I
did all of the calculations, and calibrated the equipment before it was
installed. I was only off by .25 dB at the interconnect site, and they
entire system was in spec at initial turn-on.



I haven't often seen the same from many recent electrical and
mechanical engineering graduates or the co-op undergrads I rode herd
on. After they left I redesigned their circuits with half the
components, which mattered when packed into a Xilinx chip.

https://www.wpi.edu/student-experien...lopment/co-ops

I picked up a lot of practical knowledge from the manufacturers' data
sheets I studied to learn how to use their products. Switches and
fuses for instance aren't that simple if you need to push their
capabilities while expecting long life.
http://www.littelfuse.com/~/media/au..._fuseology.pdf
One young engineer kept asking me for Polaroid scope camera film by
the case, until I showed him that data sheet which answered all his
questions.

The 30A output breaker on my welding transformer power supply can
hold 70A for a few seconds, to quickly measure diode drop etc. At
300A it's rated to open but not necessarily to close ever again.
-jsw

I have close to 200 databooks in paper format, and thousands of
datasheets or databooks in PDF files here at home.

I found design errors in many older products at Microdyne, and came
close to being fired over it, several times because the older engineers
were furious that a tech had the nerve to point out a ten yer old mistake.

There is currently a thread on a Facebook group where someone used
two short SFE 32 VDC automotive fuses in series to replace a 3AG/AGC 250
volt fuse. The idiots think that it's cool, and or funny. those 32 volt
fuses will not open reliably at 250 volts. According to the long
standing data, the first to open will create a ball of plasma, and keep
conducting. The heat will destroy the fuseholder, and the fire can
spread into the wiring, and on to the surroundings.

On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 01:30:15 -0500, Michael A Terrell
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
Michael A Terrell wrote:

If you've ever worked around a tower that was struck by lightning,
you'll know first hand what that induced magnetic pulse can do to
unshielded circuits. I spent hours on cross country phone calls
arranging for replacement parts, and had one of the techs waiting at
the airport for them to arrive after losing audio on every satellite
delivered channel on a CATV system because o the manager's attitude
of, 'It's just audio, why waste money on shielded cable'? The $20
he saved caused us to spend over $1000 to repair.

Ya gotta love "upper" management, don't ya?


They hired an expert in RF system design from a college, since it was
their first 'Million Dollar Headend'. It looked like it was laid out by
a drunken teenager who had only seen an I-pad.

The room had it's own air conditioning, yet equipment was
overheating. The audio and video wiring was crap, and anything as
grounded, other than through their power cords or several hundred feet
of RG6/U, and then through 130 feet of tower.

I moved all the racks slightly, and some of the equipment
temperature dropped by over 40 degrees. Some of the moves were for the
improved grounding, while the others were done to improve airflow.

The 'man' who replaced the designer was even worse. He was the one
who hired me, and he bragged about all of the stupid things he'd done at
other CATV systems, including how many bucket trucks that he'd wrecked.
His name was 'Bliss', and he was an idiot. He would set the video levels
without terminating the waveform monitor. The Collins had 4 Volt
unterminated output, instead of the 1 volt terminated that was industry
standard. He insisted that Tektronix knew nothing about video test
equipment, even though 95% of all video waveform monitors were built by
them.

I also caught an overheating three phase power panel that he tried
to brush off as not important. That cost us a couple thousand dollars to
repair. The neutral was undersized for electronic loads, and the
harmonics had the wire too hot to touch. You could feel the heat, just
by walking past the panel.

He refused to replace the desiccant cartridges in the pressurization
system for the Heliax to the 5 meter dish. We ended up wit gallons of
green water inside that expense cable.

One of the "Here, hold my beer and watch this. I is a Injuneer!"
types, eh?


When they fired him for sexual harassment, they walked in a brand
new VP, with a new manager from our smallest systems. He ****ed me off
by telling me that "Any service company would be proud to have our
work", so I gave two weeks notice. I spent part of my last week
installing all new C-band microwave equipment, because Collins/Rockwell
would no longer service it, and none of those service companies would
touch it. I routinely rebuilt the Collins equipment in house for our
system, and other systems owned by United Video.

Good for you.

--
Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplacable spark.

In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and
the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.

The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
it is possible, it is yours.
-- Ayn Rand

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 21:52:16 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 18:26:44 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Michael A Terrell" wrote in message
...
Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:14:05 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 12:53 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe

wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents. Started
out to
be 8 of them. I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make
these
4 all
very similar. Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong
speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the
catch.
Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. Still I have
enough
for
the most important people. They use either Parker refills or
Fisher
Space Pen refills. I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills for
the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg

Nice. How does the TSA react to these nowadays? I've heard
mixed
reviews. Some "tactical pens" are passed, some are confiscated,
and
some arrests were made.

--
Now therefore, be it Resolved by the Fiftieth Annual Convention
of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, That we
hereby declare that we are unalterably opposed to any program
which would entail the surrender of any part of the sovereignty
of the United States of America in favor of a world government.

--Veterans of Foreign Wars


No clue. I haven't flown in years. I refuse to be treated like
a
subject. I'll fly if I have to, but I find I don't often have to.

I hear that.

The last time I flew, the guy at the TSA x-ray told me to take off
my
shoes and belt. I laughed, thinking he was joking and he didn't
reply. He repeated it as the two Nat'l Guardsmen with M-16s took
a
step forward. I loudly said COMPLIANCE and hurriedly removed
them
and set them in the bucket for scanning. That was mid-morning the
day
the "shoe bomber" had been nabbed. I was flying to Alaska for my
50th
birthday 14 years ago. My Nikes and belt passed OK and the
Guardsmen
stepped back. Interesting morning. Later, I saw the flash on the
right wing, the plane shuddered, and a loud crack sounded. We
were
struck by lightning on approach to SeaTac. The cabin lights
dimmed,
but the engines didn't skip a beat. 'Twas me first strike.

https://www.quora.com/Can-lightning-...fect-as-an-EMP



If you've ever worked around a tower that was struck by
lightning, you'll know first hand what that induced magnetic pulse
can do to unshielded circuits. I spent hours on cross country phone
calls arranging for replacement parts, and had one of the techs
waiting at the airport for them to arrive after losing audio on
every satellite delivered channel on a CATV system because o the
manager's attitude of, 'It's just audio, why waste money on shielded
cable'? The $20 he saved caused us to spend over $1000 to repair.


Our satcom antennas in domes atop military aircraft were protected
like this:
http://lightningdiversion.com/home/diversion-strips/

https://theaviationist.com/wp-conten...-8C-JSTARS.jpg

What did you use as a reference manual for antenna grounding? My home
antenna mast is next to a granite outcrop that keeps me from
installing the multiple radials I'd like to have.

Did I just hear little Gunner's little friend, Tristy, say "Ground it
to the gas pipe."?


Snerk!!!


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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 01:30:15 -0500, Michael A Terrell
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
Michael A Terrell wrote:

If you've ever worked around a tower that was struck by lightning,
you'll know first hand what that induced magnetic pulse can do to
unshielded circuits. I spent hours on cross country phone calls
arranging for replacement parts, and had one of the techs waiting at
the airport for them to arrive after losing audio on every satellite
delivered channel on a CATV system because o the manager's attitude
of, 'It's just audio, why waste money on shielded cable'? The $20
he saved caused us to spend over $1000 to repair.

Ya gotta love "upper" management, don't ya?


They hired an expert in RF system design from a college, since it was
their first 'Million Dollar Headend'. It looked like it was laid out by
a drunken teenager who had only seen an I-pad.

The room had it's own air conditioning, yet equipment was
overheating. The audio and video wiring was crap, and anything as
grounded, other than through their power cords or several hundred feet
of RG6/U, and then through 130 feet of tower.

I moved all the racks slightly, and some of the equipment
temperature dropped by over 40 degrees. Some of the moves were for the
improved grounding, while the others were done to improve airflow.

The 'man' who replaced the designer was even worse. He was the one
who hired me, and he bragged about all of the stupid things he'd done at
other CATV systems, including how many bucket trucks that he'd wrecked.
His name was 'Bliss', and he was an idiot. He would set the video levels
without terminating the waveform monitor. The Collins had 4 Volt
unterminated output, instead of the 1 volt terminated that was industry
standard. He insisted that Tektronix knew nothing about video test
equipment, even though 95% of all video waveform monitors were built by
them.

I also caught an overheating three phase power panel that he tried
to brush off as not important. That cost us a couple thousand dollars to
repair. The neutral was undersized for electronic loads, and the
harmonics had the wire too hot to touch. You could feel the heat, just
by walking past the panel.

He refused to replace the desiccant cartridges in the pressurization
system for the Heliax to the 5 meter dish. We ended up wit gallons of
green water inside that expense cable.

One of the "Here, hold my beer and watch this. I is a Injuneer!"
types, eh?


No, it was more like, 'They hired me to run this place, and you just
want to spend money.' One year they announced that due to the purchase
of a large competitor, there would be no bonus checks that year, except
for the managers. He was waving a ?$50 check in our faces as another
check fell out of the Fedex envelope. It had my name on it. He laughed
and said, If I only got $50, your check must just be $5. I opened it and
said, You're right. it is $500.00. Mine was ten times what he got,
because of the extra time that I put in, and the money that I had saved
the company.

On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 05:23:09 -0500, Tom Gardner
wrote:

On 12/28/2017 5:09 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Why else would he use anonomous remailers and 914 (to date) nyms..but
to hide from retribution?


Face it, he's got a crush on you! Kinmda' makes your but tingle...don't it?


Brrrrrrr....oh **** yeah.

Being stalked by the mentally ill gives me such a warm feeling.


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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 08:00:00 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Michael A Terrell" wrote in message
...

They hired an expert in RF system design from a college, since it
was their first 'Million Dollar Headend'. It looked like it was laid
out by a drunken teenager who had only seen an I-pad.

My degree is in Chemistry, a very hands-on field in which you may not
have an assistant, so we learned the practice as well as the theory.

I can't wait to see the gore and glory when a Millennial architect
gets together with a Millennial inspector, who then let a Millennial
contractor and Millennial carpenters and metalworkers build the
skyscraper. You thought you had it bad...


I
haven't often seen the same from many recent electrical and mechanical
engineering graduates or the co-op undergrads I rode herd on. After
they left I redesigned their circuits with half the components, which
mattered when packed into a Xilinx chip.
https://www.wpi.edu/student-experien...lopment/co-ops

At least you were getting them from Polytechnic colleges. We had a
new teacher fill in for another at Coleman College when I was learning
about trons. He had been an English teacher and was now teaching
Computer Electronics Technology. I thought that rather odd, and knew
(and found) that I couldn't ask him any tech questions. I believe the
Teacher's Union Industrial Complex have a "teaching algorithm" which,
in theory, allows any graduate to teach anything in a matter of weeks.
Marry that to even more Post-Modernist/Feminist/Progressive thinking
and you have what's teaching (and coming out of) Uni these days.


I picked up a lot of practical knowledge from the manufacturers' data
sheets I studied to learn how to use their products. Switches and
fuses for instance aren't that simple if you need to push their
capabilities while expecting long life.

That's the correct way. We knuckle busters installed circuit breakers
in cars with hi-power stereos because transient currents could and
would break normal fusing. That was before they were running enough
amperage and speakerage to blow the hatches half an inch off their
seals. I can't imagine the overpressure in the vehicle, matched with
the decibels of the Rap (which I still refuse to call "music") does
their brains or bodies any good.


http://www.littelfuse.com/~/media/au..._fuseology.pdf
One young engineer kept asking me for Polaroid scope camera film by
the case, until I showed him that data sheet which answered all his
questions.

(facepalm) I imagine he found those as interesting as the paper
things we used to refer to as "manuals".
"What'll they think of next?"


The 30A output breaker on my welding transformer power supply can hold
70A for a few seconds, to quickly measure diode drop etc. At 300A it's
rated to open but not necessarily to close ever again.

I'd say that's most likely a good thing.

--
Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplacable spark.

In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and
the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.

The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
it is possible, it is yours.
-- Ayn Rand

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 08:00:00 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:
...................

...manufacturers' data sheets ...

That's the correct way. We knuckle busters installed circuit
breakers
in cars with hi-power stereos because transient currents could and
would break normal fusing. That was before they were running enough
amperage and speakerage to blow the hatches half an inch off their
seals. I can't imagine the overpressure in the vehicle, matched
with
the decibels of the Rap (which I still refuse to call "music") does
their brains or bodies any good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon

I read an automotive paper about vehicle suspension frequencies to
avoid because they could unpleasantly resonate internal organs. I
couldn't generate them at a high enough power level to notice
anything, although my stereo can rattle the doors and windows.

The heavy and flexible cable for car audio has been useful in my
alternate energy projects.


-jsw

On 12/29/2017 4:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:48:07 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents. Â*Started out to
be 8 of them. Â*I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make these 4 all
very similar. Â*Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. Â*Still I have enough for
the most important people. Â*They use either Parker refills or Fisher
Space Pen refills.Â* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice! Simple mechanism too. Now about a pocket clip..and a price?


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Too much work to sell. I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet. The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20 to $50
on Fleabay. The way I made these there is no way I could afford to sell
them that cheap. I did think about it though. If I made a couple sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper and grip
lines of the body. Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker. I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...pe n&_sacat=0

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...l+pen&_sacat=0


Its aluminum. The ones I made are 304 stainless. Aluminum is like
butter by comparison.

On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:26:25 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/29/2017 4:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:48:07 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents. *Started out to
be 8 of them. *I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make these 4 all
very similar. *Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. *Still I have enough for
the most important people. *They use either Parker refills or Fisher
Space Pen refills.* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice! Simple mechanism too. Now about a pocket clip..and a price?


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Too much work to sell. I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet. The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20 to $50
on Fleabay. The way I made these there is no way I could afford to sell
them that cheap. I did think about it though. If I made a couple sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper and grip
lines of the body. Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker. I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...pe n&_sacat=0

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...l+pen&_sacat=0


Its aluminum. The ones I made are 304 stainless. Aluminum is like
butter by comparison.

Yes. They also dont weigh 13 oz. And can penetrate a mans skull if
swung point on easily enough.

On 12/29/2017 2:20 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/27/2017 5:03 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
news
On 12/26/2017 12:51 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:
What a small, hateful person you are!

I'm really not. Mark Wieber is, though - only a small, hateful
person could routinely call for the murder of people who say things
he finds politically unpleasant.

Why do you and Terrell and Jaques all throw in with such a hateful
piece of **** as Wieber? What do you think that says about you?

It shows me that your one-upsmanship is such a winning strategy.
Why don't you go over there and kill his dogs?Â* That will show him!
And, you will easily win the philosophical high ground.


Careful, Tom, you're inciting the disturbed mind of an obsessed
stalker.



I think it's a romantic thing.Â* Like dipping Gunner's pigtails in the
inkwell.

Why do homo-erotic slurs come so easily to your mind, tommeee?

On 12/29/2017 2:26 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/28/2017 12:04 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:

Nope.Â* You haven't counted.Â* I've used no more than 100 in my entire
18 years in Usenet.

but to hide from retribution?

That's not the reason.Â* I know - everyone knows - there will be no
"retribution".Â* You're an empty woofing coward.Â* You will never do
anything to cause harm or death to anyone.Â* That is beyond dispute.

We all know the reason..."Hot monkey love!"Â* Why else would you want
pictures of Gunner's crotch?

Every effort to play The Queer Game is doomed to failure, tommeeee.

On 12/29/2017 2:28 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/26/2017 1:01 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:

How do *I* have a flaw in my soul for mocking someone who routinely
calls for the murder of people he doesn't even know?Â* Why do you
people throw in with a vile, murder-advocating cretin who is stealing
from you?

Cuz' most people agree with Gunner, you should cease to exist!

No, most people don't agree with that, tommeee - at least not any adult
participants.

On 12/29/2017 2:29 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/26/2017 11:50 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

No wonderÂ* you cant get any traction when you use yourself as such a
person.



Not worth fuel for the backhoe,

Wieber doesn't have a backhoe, tommeee - he doesn't even have access to
one, as you well know. It's just more of his empty woofing.

On 12/29/2017 2:33 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/27/2017 1:32 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:

No wonderÂ* you cant get any traction when you use yourself as such a
person.

I get full traction.Â* Meanwhile, you're still unemployable and
scrounging off the dole.

Full traction in what?Â* Don't you get it?Â* Nobody even likes you a
little!Â* At least Gunner is lovable. I'd hire half a Gunner over a dozen
of you!

You wouldn't hire 10% of a Gummer Wieber, because you know he's
worthless. Of course, you had to lay off everyone after you ran your
daddy's company into the ground.

On 12/29/2017 2:59 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:48:07 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents. Â*Started out to
be 8 of them. Â*I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make these 4 all
very similar. Â*Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. Â*Still I have enough for
the most important people. Â*They use either Parker refills or Fisher
Space Pen refills.Â* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice! Simple mechanism too. Now about a pocket clip..and a price?


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Too much work to sell. I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet. The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20 to $50
on Fleabay. The way I made these there is no way I could afford to sell
them that cheap. I did think about it though. If I made a couple sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper and grip
lines of the body. Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker. I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

I carry the Uzi Tactical Pen quite often

http://gearmoose.com/the-10-best-tactical-pens/


No, you don't.

On 12/29/2017 5:39 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 01:30:15 -0500, Michael A Terrell
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
Michael A Terrell wrote:

If you've ever worked around a tower that was struck by lightning,
you'll know first hand what that induced magnetic pulse can do to
unshielded circuits. I spent hours on cross country phone calls
arranging for replacement parts, and had one of the techs waiting at
the airport for them to arrive after losing audio on every satellite
delivered channel on a CATV system because o the manager's attitude
of, 'It's just audio, why waste money on shielded cable'? The $20
he saved caused us to spend over $1000 to repair.

Ya gotta love "upper" management, don't ya?


They hired an expert in RF system design from a college, since it was
their first 'Million Dollar Headend'. It looked like it was laid out by
a drunken teenager who had only seen an I-pad.

The room had it's own air conditioning, yet equipment was
overheating. The audio and video wiring was crap, and anything as
grounded, other than through their power cords or several hundred feet
of RG6/U, and then through 130 feet of tower.

I moved all the racks slightly, and some of the equipment
temperature dropped by over 40 degrees. Some of the moves were for the
improved grounding, while the others were done to improve airflow.

The 'man' who replaced the designer was even worse. He was the one
who hired me, and he bragged about all of the stupid things he'd done at
other CATV systems, including how many bucket trucks that he'd wrecked.
His name was 'Bliss', and he was an idiot. He would set the video levels
without terminating the waveform monitor. The Collins had 4 Volt
unterminated output, instead of the 1 volt terminated that was industry
standard. He insisted that Tektronix knew nothing about video test
equipment, even though 95% of all video waveform monitors were built by
them.

I also caught an overheating three phase power panel that he tried
to brush off as not important. That cost us a couple thousand dollars to
repair. The neutral was undersized for electronic loads, and the
harmonics had the wire too hot to touch. You could feel the heat, just
by walking past the panel.

He refused to replace the desiccant cartridges in the pressurization
system for the Heliax to the 5 meter dish. We ended up wit gallons of
green water inside that expense cable.

One of the "Here, hold my beer and watch this. I is a Injuneer!"
types, eh?

What kind of "Injuneers" does Coyote Engineering chuckle hire, Wieber?

On 12/29/2017 9:07 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:26:25 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/29/2017 4:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:48:07 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents. Â*Started out to
be 8 of them. Â*I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make these 4 all
very similar. Â*Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. Â*Still I have enough for
the most important people. Â*They use either Parker refills or Fisher
Space Pen refills.Â* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice! Simple mechanism too. Now about a pocket clip..and a price?


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Too much work to sell. I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet. The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20 to $50
on Fleabay. The way I made these there is no way I could afford to sell
them that cheap. I did think about it though. If I made a couple sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper and grip
lines of the body. Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker. I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...pe n&_sacat=0

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...l+pen&_sacat=0


Its aluminum. The ones I made are 304 stainless. Aluminum is like
butter by comparison.

Yes. They also dont weigh 13 oz. And can penetrate a mans skull if
swung point on easily enough.

Which you've never done, and never will do - first, because you're a
chicken****, and second, because you don't own one.

On 12/29/2017 10:07 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:26:25 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/29/2017 4:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:48:07 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents. Â*Started out to
be 8 of them. Â*I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make these 4 all
very similar. Â*Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. Â*Still I have enough for
the most important people. Â*They use either Parker refills or Fisher
Space Pen refills.Â* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice! Simple mechanism too. Now about a pocket clip..and a price?


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Too much work to sell. I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet. The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20 to $50
on Fleabay. The way I made these there is no way I could afford to sell
them that cheap. I did think about it though. If I made a couple sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper and grip
lines of the body. Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker. I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...pe n&_sacat=0

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...l+pen&_sacat=0


Its aluminum. The ones I made are 304 stainless. Aluminum is like
butter by comparison.

Yes. They also dont weigh 13 oz. And can penetrate a mans skull if
swung point on easily enough.


Sounds like you already have the right pen for you then.

On 12/29/2017 9:58 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 12/29/2017 10:07 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:26:25 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/29/2017 4:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:48:07 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents.
Â*Started out to
be 8 of them. Â*I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make
these 4 all
very similar. Â*Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong
speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the
catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. Â*Still I have
enough for
the most important people. Â*They use either Parker refills or
Fisher
Space Pen refills.Â* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills
for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice!Â* Simple mechanism too.Â* Now about a pocket clip..and a price?


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Too much work to sell.Â* I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet.Â* The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20 to $50
on Fleabay.Â* The way I made these there is no way I could afford to
sell
them that cheap.Â* I did think about it though.Â* If I made a couple
sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper and
grip
lines of the body.Â* Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker.Â* I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens
out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...pe n&_sacat=0


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...l+pen&_sacat=0



Its aluminum.Â* The ones I made are 304 stainless.Â* Aluminum is like
butter by comparison.

Yes.Â* They also dont weigh 13 oz.Â* And can penetrate a mans skull if
swung point on easily enough.


Sounds like you already have the right pen for you then.

He doesn't have a "tactical pen".

On 12/29/2017 11:00 AM, Chris Voigtlander wrote:
On 12/29/2017 9:58 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 12/29/2017 10:07 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:26:25 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/29/2017 4:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:48:07 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents.
Â*Started out to
be 8 of them. Â*I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make
these 4 all
very similar. Â*Destroyed two top pieces because I had the
wrong speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the
catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. Â*Still I have
enough for
the most important people. Â*They use either Parker refills or
Fisher
Space Pen refills.Â* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills
for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice!Â* Simple mechanism too.Â* Now about a pocket clip..and a
price?


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Too much work to sell.Â* I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet.Â* The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20 to
$50
on Fleabay.Â* The way I made these there is no way I could afford
to sell
them that cheap.Â* I did think about it though.Â* If I made a couple
sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper and
grip
lines of the body.Â* Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker.Â* I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and
feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens
out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...pe n&_sacat=0


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...l+pen&_sacat=0



Its aluminum.Â* The ones I made are 304 stainless.Â* Aluminum is like
butter by comparison.

Yes.Â* They also dont weigh 13 oz.Â* And can penetrate a mans skull if
swung point on easily enough.


Sounds like you already have the right pen for you then.

He doesn't have a "tactical pen".

Please do not engage me in your feud. Thank you.

On 12/29/2017 10:01 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 12/29/2017 11:00 AM, Chris Voigtlander wrote:
On 12/29/2017 9:58 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 12/29/2017 10:07 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:26:25 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/29/2017 4:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:48:07 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe

wrote:

Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents.
Â*Started out to
be 8 of them. Â*I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make
these 4 all
very similar. Â*Destroyed two top pieces because I had the
wrong speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the
catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. Â*Still I have
enough for
the most important people. Â*They use either Parker refills or
Fisher
Space Pen refills.Â* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills
for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice!Â* Simple mechanism too.Â* Now about a pocket clip..and a
price?


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Too much work to sell.Â* I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet.Â* The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20
to $50
on Fleabay.Â* The way I made these there is no way I could afford
to sell
them that cheap.Â* I did think about it though.Â* If I made a
couple sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing
everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper
and grip
lines of the body.Â* Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker.Â* I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and
feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that
would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens
out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...pe n&_sacat=0


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...l+pen&_sacat=0



Its aluminum.Â* The ones I made are 304 stainless.Â* Aluminum is like
butter by comparison.

Yes.Â* They also dont weigh 13 oz.Â* And can penetrate a mans skull if
swung point on easily enough.


Sounds like you already have the right pen for you then.

He doesn't have a "tactical pen".

Please do not engage me in your feud.Â* Thank you.

chuckle Looks like you engaged by responding. Nice one!

Tom Gardner on Fri, 29 Dec 2017 05:29:57 -0500 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On 12/26/2017 11:50 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

No wonder you cant get any traction when you use yourself as such a
person.

Not worth fuel for the backhoe,

Interesting to read how coyotes are colonizing urban areas - seem
getting rid of the Gray Wolves has cut out one of the major forms of
coyote population control.
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pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

Michael A Terrell on Fri, 29 Dec 2017
01:30:15 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

When they fired him for sexual harassment, they walked in a brand
new VP, with a new manager from our smallest systems. He ****ed me off
by telling me that "Any service company would be proud to have our
work", so I gave two weeks notice. I spent part of my last week
installing all new C-band microwave equipment, because Collins/Rockwell
would no longer service it, and none of those service companies would
touch it. I routinely rebuilt the Collins equipment in house for our
system, and other systems owned by United Video.

There is a part of me which asks "Why?" as they had a VP who knew
that they could outsource the service work, eh no? So it would be a
learning experience for them.

OTOH, were I in such a situation, I would definitely want to make
life simpler to the customers. After all, the day will come when you
say "I worked for Industrial Widget" and someone will form their
opinion of you because of their experience with Industrial Widget -
even if it is long after you left.
Long standing grip - people doing crappy work which goes out and
because I work for the same company, it make me look bad.

tschus
pyotr

former machinist.

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Michael A Terrell on Fri, 29 Dec 2017
08:35:22 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

I have close to 200 databooks in paper format, and thousands of
datasheets or databooks in PDF files here at home.

I found design errors in many older products at Microdyne, and came
close to being fired over it, several times because the older engineers
were furious that a tech had the nerve to point out a ten yer old mistake.

There is currently a thread on a Facebook group where someone used
two short SFE 32 VDC automotive fuses in series to replace a 3AG/AGC 250
volt fuse. The idiots think that it's cool, and or funny. those 32 volt
fuses will not open reliably at 250 volts. According to the long
standing data, the first to open will create a ball of plasma, and keep
conducting. The heat will destroy the fuseholder, and the fire can
spread into the wiring, and on to the surroundings.

Wow. I'll bet that would be fun to watch.

If _my_ job wasn't directly involved, that is.
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