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On 12/29/2017 10:38 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
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On 12/26/2017 11:50 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

No wonder you cant get any traction when you use yourself as such a
person.

Not worth fuel for the backhoe,


Interesting to read how coyotes are colonizing urban areas - seem
getting rid of the Gray Wolves has cut out one of the major forms of
coyote population control.


This was observed in reverse in Yellowstone after the wolves were
reintroduced and caused a decline in the coyote population. The fox
population experienced a big rebound, both because fewer coyotes were
preying on foxes, and because coyotes were no longer out-competing foxes
for rabbits and rodents and other smaller animals.
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I have close to 200 databooks in paper format, and thousands of
datasheets or databooks in PDF files here at home.

I found design errors in many older products at Microdyne, and
came
close to being fired over it, several times because the older
engineers
were furious that a tech had the nerve to point out a ten yer old
mistake.

There is currently a thread on a Facebook group where someone
used
two short SFE 32 VDC automotive fuses in series to replace a 3AG/AGC
250
volt fuse. The idiots think that it's cool, and or funny. those 32
volt
fuses will not open reliably at 250 volts. According to the long
standing data, the first to open will create a ball of plasma, and
keep
conducting. The heat will destroy the fuseholder, and the fire can
spread into the wiring, and on to the surroundings.


Wow. I'll bet that would be fun to watch.

If _my_ job wasn't directly involved, that is.
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Hmmm....what would make a good 50A 240V current limiter?


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Michael A Terrell on Fri, 29 Dec 2017
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When they fired him for sexual harassment, they walked in a brand
new VP, with a new manager from our smallest systems. He ****ed me off
by telling me that "Any service company would be proud to have our
work", so I gave two weeks notice. I spent part of my last week
installing all new C-band microwave equipment, because Collins/Rockwell
would no longer service it, and none of those service companies would
touch it. I routinely rebuilt the Collins equipment in house for our
system, and other systems owned by United Video.


There is a part of me which asks "Why?" as they had a VP who knew
that they could outsource the service work, eh no? So it would be a
learning experience for them.



No, they had hired a VP who believed that the trade journals told
only the truth. Their advertisers were all in business to sell you new
equipment, or very shoddy repair services.

One company replaced 1000 power transformers with cheap Chinese,
with no thermal fuses. We had dozens of cable boxes overheat, and some
start fires. That meant that we had to locate every box they had
touched, out of 10,000 in customer's homes.

Another company would clean the band switches by wiping away the
lubricant, then use a fiberglass eraser to scrub the silver plating off
the contacts. Some of those had failed again, before we could unpack the
shipping boxes. All of the so called news articles were written by
people like 'Fast Eddie' who praised these shoddy companies, along with
vendors selling substandard hardware.

Since their main income was from shysters, they wrote steady streams
of articles about how it cost you money to attempt to repair converters,
amplifiers and power supplies, in house. I saved the company over one
million dollars in four years, and took us to the highest rated company
in the region. It fell to the bottom withing months of my leaving the
company.


OTOH, were I in such a situation, I would definitely want to make
life simpler to the customers. After all, the day will come when you
say "I worked for Industrial Widget" and someone will form their
opinion of you because of their experience with Industrial Widget -
even if it is long after you left.

Long standing grip - people doing crappy work which goes out and
because I work for the same company, it makes me look bad.



I got calls from other cable systems that we owned, and I was
offered a job to manage a group of our systems in Stuttgart Arkansas,
but I would still have to deal with that same moron. The VP of
Marketing, and the head of our Microwave division were both angry that I
had given notice. I wasn't going to be micromanaged by an even bigger
idiot than that manager I'd fought with for four years to do my job
well, on time and on budget.

He insisted on ordering things in multiples of 25, 100, 250, 1000
etc. Repair parts were easier to purchase by the case. I would ask for
96 new cable box cases. He would order 100. We would wait two to four
months, until other people ordered enough fractional cases to use the
other 92 in a second case. 96 would have arrived in six working days.

He insisted on buying the Japanese made control cables. I would
order two 1000 foot spools of Belden 'Converter cable', and spend one
shift making cables in house. They cost us less than half as much per
cable, and they lasted much longer.

The only remaining product of United Video Cablevision is their
'Electronic Program Guide' service. In the early '80s, it was done on a
mainframe in the SW, and a pair of leased data lines took it to Chicago
and back where it was transmitted as a subcarrier on WGN, one of our
Superstation feeds.




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pyotr filipivich wrote:
Michael A Terrell on Fri, 29 Dec 2017
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When they fired him for sexual harassment, they walked in a brand
new VP, with a new manager from our smallest systems. He ****ed me off
by telling me that "Any service company would be proud to have our
work", so I gave two weeks notice. I spent part of my last week
installing all new C-band microwave equipment, because Collins/Rockwell
would no longer service it, and none of those service companies would
touch it. I routinely rebuilt the Collins equipment in house for our
system, and other systems owned by United Video.


There is a part of me which asks "Why?" as they had a VP who knew
that they could outsource the service work, eh no? So it would be a
learning experience for them.



No, they had hired a VP who believed that the trade journals told
only the truth. Their advertisers were all in business to sell you new
equipment, or very shoddy repair services.

One company replaced 1000 power transformers with cheap Chinese,
with no thermal fuses. We had dozens of cable boxes overheat, and some
start fires. That meant that we had to locate every box they had
touched, out of 10,000 in customer's homes.

Another company would clean the band switches by wiping away the
lubricant, then use a fiberglass eraser to scrub the silver plating off
the contacts. Some of those had failed again, before we could unpack the
shipping boxes. All of the so called news articles were written by
people like 'Fast Eddie' who praised these shoddy companies, along with
vendors selling substandard hardware.

Since their main income was from shysters, they wrote steady streams
of articles about how it cost you money to attempt to repair converters,
amplifiers and power supplies, in house. I saved the company over one
million dollars in four years, and took us to the highest rated company
in the region. It fell to the bottom withing months of my leaving the
company.


OTOH, were I in such a situation, I would definitely want to make
life simpler to the customers. After all, the day will come when you
say "I worked for Industrial Widget" and someone will form their
opinion of you because of their experience with Industrial Widget -
even if it is long after you left.

Long standing grip - people doing crappy work which goes out and
because I work for the same company, it makes me look bad.



I got calls from other cable systems that we owned, and I was
offered a job to manage a group of our systems in Stuttgart Arkansas,
but I would still have to deal with that same moron. The VP of
Marketing, and the head of our Microwave division were both angry that I
had given notice. I wasn't going to be micromanaged by an even bigger
idiot than that manager I'd fought with for four years to do my job
well, on time and on budget.

He insisted on ordering things in multiples of 25, 100, 250, 1000
etc. Repair parts were easier to purchase by the case. I would ask for
96 new cable box cases. He would order 100. We would wait two to four
months, until other people ordered enough fractional cases to use the
other 92 in a second case. 96 would have arrived in six working days.

He insisted on buying the Japanese made control cables. I would
order two 1000 foot spools of Belden 'Converter cable', and spend one
shift making cables in house. They cost us less than half as much per
cable, and they lasted much longer.

The only remaining product of United Video Cablevision is their
'Electronic Program Guide' service. In the early '80s, it was done on a
mainframe in the SW, and a pair of leased data lines took it to Chicago
and back where it was transmitted as a subcarrier on WGN, one of our
Superstation feeds.


"It's going out right, so you might as well do it right the first
time." One of those bossims I learned back in my youth'
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 01:30:15 -0500, Michael A Terrell
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Larry Jaques wrote:
Michael A Terrell wrote:

If you've ever worked around a tower that was struck by lightning,
you'll know first hand what that induced magnetic pulse can do to
unshielded circuits. I spent hours on cross country phone calls
arranging for replacement parts, and had one of the techs waiting at
the airport for them to arrive after losing audio on every satellite
delivered channel on a CATV system because o the manager's attitude
of, 'It's just audio, why waste money on shielded cable'? The $20
he saved caused us to spend over $1000 to repair.

Ya gotta love "upper" management, don't ya?


They hired an expert in RF system design from a college, since it was
their first 'Million Dollar Headend'. It looked like it was laid out by
a drunken teenager who had only seen an I-pad.

The room had it's own air conditioning, yet equipment was
overheating. The audio and video wiring was crap, and anything as
grounded, other than through their power cords or several hundred feet
of RG6/U, and then through 130 feet of tower.

I moved all the racks slightly, and some of the equipment
temperature dropped by over 40 degrees. Some of the moves were for the
improved grounding, while the others were done to improve airflow.

The 'man' who replaced the designer was even worse. He was the one
who hired me, and he bragged about all of the stupid things he'd done at
other CATV systems, including how many bucket trucks that he'd wrecked.
His name was 'Bliss', and he was an idiot. He would set the video levels
without terminating the waveform monitor. The Collins had 4 Volt
unterminated output, instead of the 1 volt terminated that was industry
standard. He insisted that Tektronix knew nothing about video test
equipment, even though 95% of all video waveform monitors were built by
them.

I also caught an overheating three phase power panel that he tried
to brush off as not important. That cost us a couple thousand dollars to
repair. The neutral was undersized for electronic loads, and the
harmonics had the wire too hot to touch. You could feel the heat, just
by walking past the panel.

He refused to replace the desiccant cartridges in the pressurization
system for the Heliax to the 5 meter dish. We ended up wit gallons of
green water inside that expense cable.


One of the "Here, hold my beer and watch this. I is a Injuneer!"
types, eh?



No, it was more like, 'They hired me to run this place, and you just
want to spend money.' One year they announced that due to the purchase
of a large competitor, there would be no bonus checks that year, except
for the managers. He was waving a ?$50 check in our faces as another
check fell out of the Fedex envelope. It had my name on it. He laughed
and said, If I only got $50, your check must just be $5. I opened it and
said, You're right. it is $500.00. Mine was ten times what he got,
because of the extra time that I put in, and the money that I had saved
the company.


Awww, doncha just hate it when that happens?

Not even a little bit?
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On 12/29/2017 5:55 AM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 01:30:15 -0500, Michael A Terrell
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
Michael A Terrell wrote:

Â*If you've ever worked around a tower that was struck by lightning,
you'll know first hand what that induced magnetic pulse can do to
unshielded circuits. I spent hours on cross country phone calls
arranging for replacement parts, and had one of the techs waiting at
the airport for them to arrive after losing audio on every satellite
delivered channel on a CATV system because o the manager's attitude
of, 'It's just audio, why waste money on shielded cable'? The $20
he saved caused us to spend over $1000 to repair.

Ya gotta love "upper" management, don't ya?


They hired an expert in RF system design from a college, since it was
their first 'Million Dollar Headend'. It looked like it was laid out by
a drunken teenager who had only seen an I-pad.

Â*Â* The room had it's own air conditioning, yet equipment was
overheating. The audio and video wiring was crap, and anything as
grounded, other than through their power cords or several hundred feet
of RG6/U, and then through 130 feet of tower.

Â*Â* I moved all the racks slightly, and some of the equipment
temperature dropped by over 40 degrees. Some of the moves were for the
improved grounding, while the others were done to improve airflow.

Â*Â* The 'man' who replaced the designer was even worse. He was the one
who hired me, and he bragged about all of the stupid things he'd done at
other CATV systems, including how many bucket trucks that he'd wrecked.
His name was 'Bliss', and he was an idiot. He would set the video levels
without terminating the waveform monitor. The Collins had 4 Volt
unterminated output, instead of the 1 volt terminated that was industry
standard. He insisted that Tektronix knew nothing about video test
equipment, even though 95% of all video waveform monitors were built by
them.

Â*Â* I also caught an overheating three phase power panel that he tried
to brush off as not important. That cost us a couple thousand dollars to
repair. The neutral was undersized for electronic loads, and the
harmonics had the wire too hot to touch. You could feel the heat, just
by walking past the panel.

Â*Â* He refused to replace the desiccant cartridges in the pressurization
system for the Heliax to the 5 meter dish. We ended up wit gallons of
green water inside that expense cable.


One of the "Here, hold my beer and watch this.Â* I is a Injuneer!"
types, eh?



Â*Â* No, it was more like, 'They hired me to run this place, and


chuckle

I love it when the little guys who don't understand business question
the business intelligence of those who do understand it.
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 10:58:45 -0700, Bob La Londe
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On 12/29/2017 10:07 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:26:25 -0700, Bob La Londe
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On 12/29/2017 4:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:48:07 -0700, Bob La Londe
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On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
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On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
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Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents. *Started out to
be 8 of them. *I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make these 4 all
very similar. *Destroyed two top pieces because I had the wrong speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. *Still I have enough for
the most important people. *They use either Parker refills or Fisher
Space Pen refills.* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice! Simple mechanism too. Now about a pocket clip..and a price?


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Too much work to sell. I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet. The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20 to $50
on Fleabay. The way I made these there is no way I could afford to sell
them that cheap. I did think about it though. If I made a couple sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper and grip
lines of the body. Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker. I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...pe n&_sacat=0

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...l+pen&_sacat=0


Its aluminum. The ones I made are 304 stainless. Aluminum is like
butter by comparison.


Yes. They also dont weigh 13 oz. And can penetrate a mans skull if
swung point on easily enough.


Sounds like you already have the right pen for you then.


Probably. I also own about 200 knives. And keep adding to them.

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 11:01:50 -0700, Bob La Londe
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On 12/29/2017 11:00 AM, Chris Voigtlander wrote:
On 12/29/2017 9:58 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 12/29/2017 10:07 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:26:25 -0700, Bob La Londe
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On 12/29/2017 4:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:48:07 -0700, Bob La Londe
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On 12/25/2017 8:26 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 15:06:27 -0700, Bob La Londe
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On 12/25/2017 7:48 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:27:12 -0700, Bob La Londe
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Some not so quick... quick and easy Christmas presents.
*Started out to
be 8 of them. *I did two prototypes, then did a plan to make
these 4 all
very similar. *Destroyed two top pieces because I had the
wrong speeds
and feeds for stainless when cutting out the notch for the
catch. Didn't
have enough time to make two more top pieces. *Still I have
enough for
the most important people. *They use either Parker refills or
Fisher
Space Pen refills.* I went with the Fisher Space Pen refills
for the
ones to be given out as gifts.

http://tacklemaker.info/gallery/1_25..._12_25_46.jpeg


Nice!* Simple mechanism too.* Now about a pocket clip..and a
price?


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Too much work to sell.* I do have a tough replaceable pocket clip
mechanism figured out, but I just ran out of time.


Id pay $15 for one.

Gunner



I bet.* The stainless steel "tactical" pens are selling for $20 to
$50
on Fleabay.* The way I made these there is no way I could afford
to sell
them that cheap.* I did think about it though.* If I made a couple
sets
of soft jaws for the Hurco I could do 8-10 at a time doing everything
except the internal threading of the cap, and the finish taper and
grip
lines of the body.* Then finishing them on the lathe would be much
quicker.* I suppose I could sit down and figure otu the speed and
feed
for my tapping head to do the internal threads too, but that would be
fiddly and time consuming to get just right to not jerk the pens
out of
the vise and not break the taps on the retract without constantly
clicking the head.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...pe n&_sacat=0


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...l+pen&_sacat=0



Its aluminum.* The ones I made are 304 stainless.* Aluminum is like
butter by comparison.

Yes.* They also dont weigh 13 oz.* And can penetrate a mans skull if
swung point on easily enough.


Sounds like you already have the right pen for you then.


He doesn't have a "tactical pen".


Please do not engage me in your feud. Thank you.


Little Richard has nothing better to do. He already swept the mess
hall at the Home.


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On 12/29/2017 12:16 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:
On 12/29/2017 2:28 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/26/2017 1:01 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:

How do *I* have a flaw in my soul for mocking someone who routinely
calls for the murder of people he doesn't even know?Â* Why do you
people throw in with a vile, murder-advocating cretin who is stealing
from you?


Cuz' most people agree with Gunner, you should cease to exist!


No, most people don't agree with that, tommeee - at least not any adult
participants.


Name three.
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On 12/29/2017 11:15 AM, Tristan Mauger wrote:
On 12/29/2017 2:20 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/27/2017 5:03 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
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What a small, hateful person you are!

I'm really not. Mark Wieber is, though - only a small, hateful
person could routinely call for the murder of people who say things
he finds politically unpleasant.

Why do you and Terrell and Jaques all throw in with such a hateful
piece of **** as Wieber? What do you think that says about you?

It shows me that your one-upsmanship is such a winning strategy.
Why don't you go over there and kill his dogs?Â* That will show him!
And, you will easily win the philosophical high ground.


Careful, Tom, you're inciting the disturbed mind of an obsessed
stalker.



I think it's a romantic thing.Â* Like dipping Gunner's pigtails in the
inkwell.


Why do homo-erotic slurs come so easily to your mind, tommeee?


Â* Why are you such a coward that you don't post under your real name ?

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"It's going out right, so you might as well do it right the first
time." One of those bossims I learned back in my youth'



One of his screw ups caused me to work double shifts seven days a
week, for a little over seven months with only three days off when my
mother died. I was getting less than four hours sleep a night during
that time, and it could have been prevented if the manager had admitted
his mistake and spent the money for a $5 crystal.

Then I got back to work, and a stupid #$%^&*( got in my face and
said that I was a F#$%^ing Mama's boy for taking off for her death from
cancer, radiation treatments and chemo.

It was a toxic workplace, and it took the rest of the techs to pull
me off that *******. I told his supervisor that if I saw him again
during the next week that I would kill him, with no remorse. 'Mr. Macho'
didn't show his face for close to two weeks. His supervisor had been a
marine, and he explained to the fool that my Army training wuld make it
easy to paint the complex red with his body parts.

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On 12/30/2017 6:22 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/29/2017 12:16 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:
On 12/29/2017 2:28 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/26/2017 1:01 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:

How do *I* have a flaw in my soul for mocking someone who routinely
calls for the murder of people he doesn't even know?Â* Why do you
people throw in with a vile, murder-advocating cretin who is
stealing from you?

Cuz' most people agree with Gunner, you should cease to exist!


No, most people don't agree with that, tommeee - at least not any
adult participants.


Name three.


Â* That aren't nyms you've used on usenet .

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How do *I* have a flaw in my soul for mocking someone who routinely
calls for the murder of people he doesn't even know? Why do you people
throw in with a vile, murder-advocating cretin who is stealing from you?


It is obvious to the most casual observer that you have a flaw in your soul. The fact that you can not see it is just another aspect of your flaws,

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...manufacturers' data sheets ...


That's the correct way. We knuckle busters installed circuit
breakers
in cars with hi-power stereos because transient currents could and
would break normal fusing. That was before they were running enough
amperage and speakerage to blow the hatches half an inch off their
seals. I can't imagine the overpressure in the vehicle, matched
with
the decibels of the Rap (which I still refuse to call "music") does
their brains or bodies any good.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon


g Here's another similar machine/procedu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cU-NJMBbIg I understand that the
patient feels like they've been severely beaten-up afterward, but
that's preferable to the kidney stone.


I read an automotive paper about vehicle suspension frequencies to
avoid because they could unpleasantly resonate internal organs. I
couldn't generate them at a high enough power level to notice
anything, although my stereo can rattle the doors and windows.

The heavy and flexible cable for car audio has been useful in my
alternate energy projects.


Did you finance it through the bank? They don't give that flexible,
oxygen-free (snort) copper wire away.

P.S: Watch out on both Ebay and Amazon when buying copper wire. Over
half the stuff for sale today is AL, or copper-plated AL. Watch the
weight. The vendors were calling it "copper" when it was CCA.

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never have been able to reach.

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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 01:30:15 -0500, Michael A Terrell
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Larry Jaques wrote:
Michael A Terrell wrote:

If you've ever worked around a tower that was struck by lightning,
you'll know first hand what that induced magnetic pulse can do to
unshielded circuits. I spent hours on cross country phone calls
arranging for replacement parts, and had one of the techs waiting at
the airport for them to arrive after losing audio on every satellite
delivered channel on a CATV system because o the manager's attitude
of, 'It's just audio, why waste money on shielded cable'? The $20
he saved caused us to spend over $1000 to repair.

Ya gotta love "upper" management, don't ya?


They hired an expert in RF system design from a college, since it was
their first 'Million Dollar Headend'. It looked like it was laid out by
a drunken teenager who had only seen an I-pad.

The room had it's own air conditioning, yet equipment was
overheating. The audio and video wiring was crap, and anything as
grounded, other than through their power cords or several hundred feet
of RG6/U, and then through 130 feet of tower.

I moved all the racks slightly, and some of the equipment
temperature dropped by over 40 degrees. Some of the moves were for the
improved grounding, while the others were done to improve airflow.

The 'man' who replaced the designer was even worse. He was the one
who hired me, and he bragged about all of the stupid things he'd done at
other CATV systems, including how many bucket trucks that he'd wrecked.
His name was 'Bliss', and he was an idiot. He would set the video levels
without terminating the waveform monitor. The Collins had 4 Volt
unterminated output, instead of the 1 volt terminated that was industry
standard. He insisted that Tektronix knew nothing about video test
equipment, even though 95% of all video waveform monitors were built by
them.

I also caught an overheating three phase power panel that he tried
to brush off as not important. That cost us a couple thousand dollars to
repair. The neutral was undersized for electronic loads, and the
harmonics had the wire too hot to touch. You could feel the heat, just
by walking past the panel.

He refused to replace the desiccant cartridges in the pressurization
system for the Heliax to the 5 meter dish. We ended up wit gallons of
green water inside that expense cable.


One of the "Here, hold my beer and watch this. I is a Injuneer!"
types, eh?



No, it was more like, 'They hired me to run this place, and you just
want to spend money.' One year they announced that due to the purchase
of a large competitor, there would be no bonus checks that year, except
for the managers. He was waving a ?$50 check in our faces as another
check fell out of the Fedex envelope. It had my name on it. He laughed
and said, If I only got $50, your check must just be $5. I opened it and
said, You're right. it is $500.00. Mine was ten times what he got,
because of the extra time that I put in, and the money that I had saved
the company.


Beautiful. LOL

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never have been able to reach.

The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
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On 12/29/2017 11:15 AM, Tristan Mauger wrote:
On 12/29/2017 2:20 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/27/2017 5:03 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
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news On 12/26/2017 12:51 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:
What a small, hateful person you are!

I'm really not. Mark Wieber is, though - only a small, hateful
person could routinely call for the murder of people who say things
he finds politically unpleasant.

Why do you and Terrell and Jaques all throw in with such a hateful
piece of **** as Wieber? What do you think that says about you?

It shows me that your one-upsmanship is such a winning strategy.
Why don't you go over there and kill his dogs?* That will show him!
And, you will easily win the philosophical high ground.


Careful, Tom, you're inciting the disturbed mind of an obsessed
stalker.



I think it's a romantic thing.* Like dipping Gunner's pigtails in the
inkwell.


Why do homo-erotic slurs come so easily to your mind, tommeee?


* Why are you such a coward that you don't post under your real name ?



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On 12/30/2017 6:22 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/29/2017 12:16 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:
On 12/29/2017 2:28 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/26/2017 1:01 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:

How do *I* have a flaw in my soul for mocking someone who routinely
calls for the murder of people he doesn't even know?* Why do you
people throw in with a vile, murder-advocating cretin who is
stealing from you?

Cuz' most people agree with Gunner, you should cease to exist!

No, most people don't agree with that, tommeee - at least not any
adult participants.


Name three.


* That aren't nyms you've used on usenet .


923 so far. Looks like he cant use enough names in the 25 hours till
midnight Dec 31 to with the Prize for 1000 nyms.

Bummer!!

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Larry Jaques wrote:

One of the "Here, hold my beer and watch this. I is a Injuneer!"
types, eh?


No, it was more like, 'They hired me to run this place, and you
just want to spend money.' One year they announced that due to the
purchase of a large competitor, there would be no bonus checks that
year, except for the managers. He was waving a $50 check in our
faces as another check fell out of the Fedex envelope. It had my
name on it. He laughed and said, If I only got $50, your check must
just be $5. I opened it and said, You're right. It is $500.00. Mine
was ten times what he got, because of the extra time that I put in,
and the money that I had saved the company.


Beautiful. LOL




I made time and a half, and double and a half for overtime, and
overtime on holidays. I was working 112 hours a week. Everything past 40
hours was overtime. That was over 1300 a week, before taxes, if there
wasn't a holiday. This was over 30 years ago. I got paid every other
week, and one time it was three months before I could deposit my checks.

The teller dropped the pile of checks and asked me to marry her. I
told her I was too tired to even think about it, so she counter-offered
with a weekend in Vegas, with a promise that I'd never forget it. She
was right. It would have killed me, and she would have taken the rest of
that cash.

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--snip--

It's a troll, guys. Ignore it.

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Michael A Terrell wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

One of the "Here, hold my beer and watch this. I is a Injuneer!"
types, eh?

No, it was more like, 'They hired me to run this place, and you
just want to spend money.' One year they announced that due to the
purchase of a large competitor, there would be no bonus checks that
year, except for the managers. He was waving a $50 check in our
faces as another check fell out of the Fedex envelope. It had my
name on it. He laughed and said, If I only got $50, your check must
just be $5. I opened it and said, You're right. It is $500.00. Mine
was ten times what he got, because of the extra time that I put in,
and the money that I had saved the company.


Beautiful. LOL




I made time and a half, and double and a half for overtime, and
overtime on holidays. I was working 112 hours a week. Everything past 40
hours was overtime. That was over 1300 a week, before taxes, if there
wasn't a holiday. This was over 30 years ago. I got paid every other
week, and one time it was three months before I could deposit my checks.


Egad!


The teller dropped the pile of checks and asked me to marry her. I
told her I was too tired to even think about it, so she counter-offered
with a weekend in Vegas, with a promise that I'd never forget it. She
was right. It would have killed me, and she would have taken the rest of
that cash.


g Golddiggers earn 3 limp thumbs from me. Take a photo of 'em and
paste the face on a Playboy foldout. It's a whole lot cheaper, you
avoid the whole drama, and there are no attorney bills.

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In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and
the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish
and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.

The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
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Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A Terrell wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

One of the "Here, hold my beer and watch this. I is a Injuneer!"
types, eh?

No, it was more like, 'They hired me to run this place, and you
just want to spend money.' One year they announced that due to the
purchase of a large competitor, there would be no bonus checks that
year, except for the managers. He was waving a $50 check in our
faces as another check fell out of the Fedex envelope. It had my
name on it. He laughed and said, If I only got $50, your check must
just be $5. I opened it and said, You're right. It is $500.00. Mine
was ten times what he got, because of the extra time that I put in,
and the money that I had saved the company.

Beautiful. LOL




I made time and a half, and double and a half for overtime, and
overtime on holidays. I was working 112 hours a week. Everything past 40
hours was overtime. That was over 1300 a week, before taxes, if there
wasn't a holiday. This was over 30 years ago. I got paid every other
week, and one time it was three months before I could deposit my checks.


Egad!


The teller dropped the pile of checks and asked me to marry her. I
told her I was too tired to even think about it, so she counter-offered
with a weekend in Vegas, with a promise that I'd never forget it. She
was right. It would have killed me, and she would have taken the rest of
that cash.


g Golddiggers earn 3 limp thumbs from me. Take a photo of 'em and
paste the face on a Playboy foldout. It's a whole lot cheaper, you
avoid the whole drama, and there are no attorney bills.



She had a face and a body that could have been a centerfold. I was
so exhausted that she could have stripped right there, and I would have
walked away. It was cutting into my precious sleep time. A week or two
later I blacked out while driving in heavy traffic in Cincinnati. I
drove five miles, in about 15 minutes, and I didn't remember one second
of it. I was sitting at a red light, and the next ting I knew, I had
slammed on the brakes to keep from hitting some idiot in a brand new
Lincoln who had cut me off. This was near the end of the overtime. I
told the manager what happened. The brainless SOB just laughed and told
me that I would get used to the blackouts. I gave him an ultimatum.
Either he hired a second tech by that Monday, or he could hire 20,
because I would be gone and they would have to start the department
over. I was yelling loud enough that the entire staff heard me, and a
threat to call the Ohio Ste Labor Relations Board to file a complaint
about the mandatory overtime. He hired somebody from a place that
repaired TV tuners.













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pyotr filipivich wrote:

"It's going out right, so you might as well do it right the first
time." One of those bossims I learned back in my youth'



One of his screw ups caused me to work double shifts seven days a
week, for a little over seven months with only three days off when my
mother died. I was getting less than four hours sleep a night during
that time, and it could have been prevented if the manager had admitted
his mistake and spent the money for a $5 crystal.

Then I got back to work, and a stupid #$%^&*( got in my face and
said that I was a F#$%^ing Mama's boy for taking off for her death from
cancer, radiation treatments and chemo.

It was a toxic workplace, and it took the rest of the techs to pull
me off that *******. I told his supervisor that if I saw him again
during the next week that I would kill him, with no remorse. 'Mr. Macho'
didn't show his face for close to two weeks. His supervisor had been a
marine, and he explained to the fool that my Army training wuld make it
easy to paint the complex red with his body parts.


Youcks. My sympathies. I've been fortunate to not have such an
experience. Or the tolerance, perhaps.


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On 12/29/2017 12:15 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:
On 12/29/2017 2:26 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/28/2017 12:04 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:

Nope.Â* You haven't counted.Â* I've used no more than 100 in my entire
18 years in Usenet.

but to hide from retribution?

That's not the reason.Â* I know - everyone knows - there will be no
"retribution".Â* You're an empty woofing coward.Â* You will never do
anything to cause harm or death to anyone.Â* That is beyond dispute.


We all know the reason..."Hot monkey love!"Â* Why else would you want
pictures of Gunner's crotch?


Every effort to play The Queer Game is doomed to failure, tommeeee.


I have no problems with your sexual orientation.
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On 12/29/2017 9:00 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
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On 12/28/2017 5:09 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Why else would he use anonomous remailers and 914 (to date) nyms..but
to hide from retribution?


Face it, he's got a crush on you! Kinmda' makes your but tingle...don't it?



Brrrrrrr....oh **** yeah.

Being stalked by the mentally ill gives me such a warm feeling.



Nephew headed to Afghanistan for ANOTHER tour, #5. They told him to
pack for Korea too and be ready to move at a moment's notice.

The Army has the snipers using factory 300 Win. Mag. They don't load
their own rounds. He's never loaded a single round and was surprised
that I was appalled and he was fascinated with the potential. Glock is
the supplier of pistols now, didn't know that. Great to see this kid in
town over Christmas. This little boy has turned into an old man before
his time. I guess 4 tours will do that. when he re-upped we all
thought his wife was going to kill him but his deal with the army is a
cushy teaching gig and promotion to Master when he gets back from this
tour.
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On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 23:52:07 -0500, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 12/29/2017 12:15 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:
On 12/29/2017 2:26 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/28/2017 12:04 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:

Nope.* You haven't counted.* I've used no more than 100 in my entire
18 years in Usenet.

but to hide from retribution?

That's not the reason.* I know - everyone knows - there will be no
"retribution".* You're an empty woofing coward.* You will never do
anything to cause harm or death to anyone.* That is beyond dispute.

We all know the reason..."Hot monkey love!"* Why else would you want
pictures of Gunner's crotch?


Every effort to play The Queer Game is doomed to failure, tommeeee.


I have no problems with your sexual orientation.



Poor ******* is ****ed off that he didnt even come close to the fabled
1000 Nyms Grand Prize.


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Poor ******* is ****ed off that he didnt even come close to the fabled
1000 Nyms Grand Prize.



Shame, shame I say, on us for acknowledging his existence.

New year's resolutions:
1. Don't feed the troll
2. Buy one more handgun
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On 1/1/2018 8:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/29/2017 12:15 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:
On 12/29/2017 2:26 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 12/28/2017 12:04 PM, Tristan Mauger wrote:

Nope.Â* You haven't counted.Â* I've used no more than 100 in my entire
18 years in Usenet.

but to hide from retribution?

That's not the reason.Â* I know - everyone knows - there will be no
"retribution".Â* You're an empty woofing coward.Â* You will never do
anything to cause harm or death to anyone.Â* That is beyond dispute.

We all know the reason..."Hot monkey love!"Â* Why else would you want
pictures of Gunner's crotch?


Every effort to play The Queer Game is doomed to failure, tommeeee.


I have no problems with your sexual orientation.


That's not what The Queer Game is about, tommeeee. The Queer Game is
when some idiot like you suggests that someone else is queer,
specifically still in the closet. It's just a dumb game. That's what
you were doing when you suggested I wanted pictures of Wieber's crotch.
I don't, and you don't have any reason to believe from what I've written
that I do. You were just trying to play The Queer Game, and of course
you failed.
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 05:02:20 -0500, Michael A Terrell
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Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A Terrell wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

One of the "Here, hold my beer and watch this. I is a Injuneer!"
types, eh?

No, it was more like, 'They hired me to run this place, and you
just want to spend money.' One year they announced that due to the
purchase of a large competitor, there would be no bonus checks that
year, except for the managers. He was waving a $50 check in our
faces as another check fell out of the Fedex envelope. It had my
name on it. He laughed and said, If I only got $50, your check must
just be $5. I opened it and said, You're right. It is $500.00. Mine
was ten times what he got, because of the extra time that I put in,
and the money that I had saved the company.

Beautiful. LOL



I made time and a half, and double and a half for overtime, and
overtime on holidays. I was working 112 hours a week. Everything past 40
hours was overtime. That was over 1300 a week, before taxes, if there
wasn't a holiday. This was over 30 years ago. I got paid every other
week, and one time it was three months before I could deposit my checks.


Egad!


The teller dropped the pile of checks and asked me to marry her. I
told her I was too tired to even think about it, so she counter-offered
with a weekend in Vegas, with a promise that I'd never forget it. She
was right. It would have killed me, and she would have taken the rest of
that cash.


g Golddiggers earn 3 limp thumbs from me. Take a photo of 'em and
paste the face on a Playboy foldout. It's a whole lot cheaper, you
avoid the whole drama, and there are no attorney bills.



She had a face and a body that could have been a centerfold. I was
so exhausted that she could have stripped right there, and I would have
walked away. It was cutting into my precious sleep time. A week or two


Yeah, the gorgeous ones are the worst. Remember that old song "Never
make a pretty woman your wife."? Spot on.


later I blacked out while driving in heavy traffic in Cincinnati. I
drove five miles, in about 15 minutes, and I didn't remember one second
of it. I was sitting at a red light, and the next ting I knew, I had
slammed on the brakes to keep from hitting some idiot in a brand new
Lincoln who had cut me off. This was near the end of the overtime. I


That's bad, bad, bad. You got lucky, Mikey.


told the manager what happened. The brainless SOB just laughed and told
me that I would get used to the blackouts. I gave him an ultimatum.
Either he hired a second tech by that Monday, or he could hire 20,
because I would be gone and they would have to start the department
over. I was yelling loud enough that the entire staff heard me, and a
threat to call the Ohio Ste Labor Relations Board to file a complaint
about the mandatory overtime.


LOL.

He hired somebody from a place that repaired TV tuners.


That kept in line with his knowledge level, I suppose.














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and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but
never have been able to reach.

The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real,
it is possible, it is yours.
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Poor ******* is ****ed off that he didnt even come close to the fabled
1000 Nyms Grand Prize.



Shame, shame I say, on us for acknowledging his existence.

New year's resolutions:
1. Don't feed the troll
2. Buy one more handgun


I horse traded for a High standard 22 (2) weeks ago.

Now I have (2)

https://www.highstandard.com/images/hs22md.jpg

https://photos.app.goo.gl/oPrgiwXbyvul4wez2

Now Im looking for a 7x57 rifle


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On 1/3/2018 8:38 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
I horse traded for a High standard 22 (2) weeks ago.

Now I have (2)

https://www.highstandard.com/images/hs22md.jpg

https://photos.app.goo.gl/oPrgiwXbyvul4wez2

Now Im looking for a 7x57 rifle


Good score!
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