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M16 (~5/8th-inch) - socket upto strip threads in tests
M16 bolt & nut takes 24mm spanner / socket...
I wanted to do some tests - micrometer etc. measure elastic and plastic (permanently deformed) extension. Was thinking 3/4inch drive (square) so wrench much stronger than bolt. Want to keep wrench handle near horizontal, where bolt axis is horizontal, so can haul on it. Choice...? Could get * 12-facets (2 angles - 15deg increments) chromed hard socket * 6-facets (1-angle - 30deg increments) tougher steel sockets. The 6 facets impact wrench socket is the stronger / tougher - but the 12 facets one is totally up to the job and gives twice as many angles it can go on? Any experience or experience on this and which is better choice? Rich S |
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M16 (~5/8th-inch) - socket upto strip threads in tests
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:02:27 +0000, Richard Smith
wrote: M16 bolt & nut takes 24mm spanner / socket... I wanted to do some tests - micrometer etc. measure elastic and plastic (permanently deformed) extension. Was thinking 3/4inch drive (square) so wrench much stronger than bolt. Want to keep wrench handle near horizontal, where bolt axis is horizontal, so can haul on it. Choice...? Could get * 12-facets (2 angles - 15deg increments) chromed hard socket * 6-facets (1-angle - 30deg increments) tougher steel sockets. The 6 facets impact wrench socket is the stronger / tougher - but the 12 facets one is totally up to the job and gives twice as many angles it can go on? Any experience or experience on this and which is better choice? As a retired auto mechanic, I can tell you that I shunned my 12pt sockets early on in favor of the stronger 6pt sockets, mostly the impact style so I could use them with air tools. If you induce any angle during the test, the 12pt will strip the corners right off that bolt head. A super-duty ratchet will make up the difference if you need to get a bite at tighter angles. Wear thick gloves and clear the area behind where you're testing. When it lets loose, you need to pad where you'll fall. DAMHIKT -- A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description of a happy state in this world. --John Locke |
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M16 (~5/8th-inch) - socket upto strip threads in tests
On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 9:28:56 AM UTC-5, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:02:27 +0000, Richard Smith wrote: M16 bolt & nut takes 24mm spanner / socket... I wanted to do some tests - micrometer etc. measure elastic and plastic (permanently deformed) extension. Was thinking 3/4inch drive (square) so wrench much stronger than bolt. Want to keep wrench handle near horizontal, where bolt axis is horizontal, so can haul on it. Choice...? Could get * 12-facets (2 angles - 15deg increments) chromed hard socket * 6-facets (1-angle - 30deg increments) tougher steel sockets. The 6 facets impact wrench socket is the stronger / tougher - but the 12 facets one is totally up to the job and gives twice as many angles it can go on? Any experience or experience on this and which is better choice? As a retired auto mechanic, I can tell you that I shunned my 12pt sockets early on in favor of the stronger 6pt sockets, mostly the impact style so I could use them with air tools. If you induce any angle during the test, the 12pt will strip the corners right off that bolt head. A super-duty ratchet will make up the difference if you need to get a bite at tighter angles. Wear thick gloves and clear the area behind where you're testing. When it lets loose, you need to pad where you'll fall. DAMHIKT -- A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description of a happy state in this world. --John Locke I would suggest using a cheater pipe. Adding a few feet to the handle of the ratchet will make the failure event far less dramatic. |
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M16 (~5/8th-inch) - socket upto strip threads in tests
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:28:53 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:02:27 +0000, Richard Smith wrote: M16 bolt & nut takes 24mm spanner / socket... I wanted to do some tests - micrometer etc. measure elastic and plastic (permanently deformed) extension. Was thinking 3/4inch drive (square) so wrench much stronger than bolt. Want to keep wrench handle near horizontal, where bolt axis is horizontal, so can haul on it. Choice...? Could get * 12-facets (2 angles - 15deg increments) chromed hard socket * 6-facets (1-angle - 30deg increments) tougher steel sockets. The 6 facets impact wrench socket is the stronger / tougher - but the 12 facets one is totally up to the job and gives twice as many angles it can go on? Any experience or experience on this and which is better choice? As a retired auto mechanic, I can tell you that I shunned my 12pt sockets early on in favor of the stronger 6pt sockets, mostly the impact style so I could use them with air tools. If you induce any angle during the test, the 12pt will strip the corners right off that bolt head. A super-duty ratchet will make up the difference if you need to get a bite at tighter angles. Wear thick gloves and clear the area behind where you're testing. When it lets loose, you need to pad where you'll fall. DAMHIKT Excellent post! 12 point sockets will be destroyed as will your nuts and bolt heads long before 6 point. Gunner, who has impact guns to 1" And lots of scars from working in tight places.... --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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