Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
Metalworking (rec.crafts.metalworking) Discuss various aspects of working with metal, such as machining, welding, metal joining, screwing, casting, hardening/tempering, blacksmithing/forging, spinning and hammer work, sheet metal work. |
Reply |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
Â* Well , today it's because I was welding with flux core wire on an
older yard trailer . This thing was a gift , and you know what they say .... anyway , I've used this thing hard , it's primary task is hauling firewood out of the woods . Tires get green-briar thorns , and metal fatigues . Well , it's going to be a couple of days until the new tires arrive , so today I welded up all those fatigue cracks . Also added an angle iron reinforcement across the front at the top . And most of the welds had a lot of smut on the top . Because they were burned thru rust and paint/powder-coat . I don't care what they look like , as long as this thing holds together long enough to make that 25 bucks I spent on tires a reasonably decent investment . Â* -- Â* Snag |
#2
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
On 12/11/2017 5:49 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Â* Well , today it's because I was welding with flux core wire on an older yard trailer . This thing was a gift , and you know what they say ... anyway , I've used this thing hard , it's primary task is hauling firewood out of the woods . Tires get green-briar thorns , and metal fatigues . Well , it's going to be a couple of days until the new tires arrive , so today I welded up all those fatigue cracks . Also added an angle iron reinforcement across the front at the top . And most of the welds had a lot of smut on the top . Because they were burned thru rust and paint/powder-coat . I don't care what they look like , as long as this thing holds together long enough to make that 25 bucks I spent on tires a reasonably decent investment . Â* -- Â* Snag Wow! You burned through dirt, paint and grunge? I've never been able to do that with any of my MIG welders. Now AC stick is another story. It eats paint like breakfast pastries. I've got one little Lincoln MIG that is just designed for flux core, and its probably the easiest welder I have to lay down a pretty bead, but it shore ain't gonna burn through no grunge. Now the old Lincoln Tombstone. Its a paint eater. Just doesn't have much duty cycle from mid range on up. It can only weld about half way around a 6 inch well casing before I have to stop and let it cool down. |
#3
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
On 12/11/2017 7:16 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 12/11/2017 5:49 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: Â*Â* Well , today it's because I was welding with flux core wire on an older yard trailer . This thing was a gift , and you know what they say ... anyway , I've used this thing hard , it's primary task is hauling firewood out of the woods . Tires get green-briar thorns , and metal fatigues . Well , it's going to be a couple of days until the new tires arrive , so today I welded up all those fatigue cracks . Also added an angle iron reinforcement across the front at the top . And most of the welds had a lot of smut on the top . Because they were burned thru rust and paint/powder-coat . I don't care what they look like , as long as this thing holds together long enough to make that 25 bucks I spent on tires a reasonably decent investment . Â*Â* -- Â*Â* Snag Wow!Â* You burned through dirt, paint and grunge?Â* I've never been able to do that with any of my MIG welders.Â* Now AC stick is another story. It eats paint like breakfast pastries. I've got one little Lincoln MIG that is just designed for flux core, and its probably the easiest welder I have to lay down a pretty bead, but it shore ain't gonna burn through no grunge. Now the old Lincoln Tombstone.Â* Its a paint eater.Â* Just doesn't have much duty cycle from mid range on up.Â* It can only weld about half way around a 6 inch well casing before I have to stop and let it cool down. Â* Check your fan ... my Tombstone will burn thru as many sticks of 1/8" 7018AC as I can stand and never shut down - but I'm only at 90 amps max .. My wire feed is a Lincoln too , a Weldpak100 . Ain't worth a **** over 3/16" without preheat , but for this sheet metal I had it dialed all the way down on amps - flux core burns hotter . Lots of fatigue cracks , this little gift has been used hard even before I started abusing it . Â* -- Â* Snag |
#4
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
It doesnt shut down. The weld quality starts to suffer. Let it sit for ten minutes and the welds are good stuff again.
|
#5
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:49:30 -0600, Terry Coombs
wrote: * Well , today it's because I was welding with flux core wire on an older yard trailer . This thing was a gift , and you know what they say ... anyway , I've used this thing hard , it's primary task is hauling firewood out of the woods . Tires get green-briar thorns , and metal fatigues . Well , it's going to be a couple of days until the new tires arrive , so today I welded up all those fatigue cracks . Also added an angle iron reinforcement across the front at the top . And most of the welds had a lot of smut on the top . Because they were burned thru rust and paint/powder-coat . I don't care what they look like , as long as this thing holds together long enough to make that 25 bucks I spent on tires a reasonably decent investment . * -- * Snag Im sure somebody will drag open old wounds and pour salt in em...(grin).....so Ill beat em to it. I made up a really..really nice spare tire carrier for my old utility trailer. Milled, lathed, measured to 3 digits..and couldnt get it close enough to my big stick welder to weld it to the trailer. BUT! Id just aquired a brand new Lincoln Weldpack 125 mig welder!! And by Crom Ive good enough good extension cords to use the welder right there at the trailer!! Im golden!! So I weld the spare tire carrier on with perfect alignment, making beautiful welds...beads were looking really really good! Voila! A masterpiece of the craft! I hung a Brand NEW D rated 14" trailer tire and Chrome! wheel on that beautiful spare tire carrier..and headed for LA. About 3 miles from home..while looking in the rear view mirror...I noticed the beautiful and properly constructed spare tire carrier and spare tire..was gone. I froze in shock! Then I noticed a black blob on the pavement behind me..getting bigger and bigger and my brand new masterpiece spare tire carrier appeared in the rear view mirror...tire firmly attached...and it hit the pavement...hard...and bounced upwards..like a pheasant on the rise...up..up..upwards and out of my view in the rear view mirror. I never saw it again...though I spent hours trecking through the sage brush and tumbleweeds..searching..searching...in vain. It may have reached low earth orbit on its rise. Inspecting the weldment...showed that my brand new Lincoln Weldpack 125..had not penetrated the foundation element on the trailer..and the perfect beads Id laid so carefuly and lovingly..were beautiful pecker tracks that I knocked off with a chipping hammer. Zero penetration. Nada. Hardly had even smoked the paint. So I went back home..beat a new spare tire holder out of junk steel and rebar, welded it with 6010 rod at full amperage and straight polarity...then beat the **** out of it with a 4 lb sledge hammer, trying to get the welds to fail. It held..and has held for at least 18 yrs so far..carrying for all that time...a series of second hand tires I picked up for $10 off the Used Tire rack at the local mexican tire shop. I dream of that beautiful spare tire mount..sparkling in the sunlight..that georgious brand new D range tire and the brightly polished nuts that held it to that carrier...still..to this day. My screaming NO! NO! NO! wakes up my dear wife..who pats my hand and murmmers sympathy, before rolling over and going back to sleep. |
#6
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
On 12/11/2017 10:29 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
Im sure somebody will drag open old wounds and pour salt in em...(grin).....so Ill beat em to it. I made up a really..really nice spare tire carrier for my old utility trailer. Milled, lathed, measured to 3 digits..and couldnt get it close enough to my big stick welder to weld it to the trailer. BUT! Id just aquired a brand new Lincoln Weldpack 125 mig welder!! And by Crom Ive good enough good extension cords to use the welder right there at the trailer!! Im golden!! So I weld the spare tire carrier on with perfect alignment, making beautiful welds...beads were looking really really good! Voila! A masterpiece of the craft! I hung a Brand NEW D rated 14" trailer tire and Chrome! wheel on that beautiful spare tire carrier..and headed for LA. About 3 miles from home..while looking in the rear view mirror...I noticed the beautiful and properly constructed spare tire carrier and spare tire..was gone. I froze in shock! Then I noticed a black blob on the pavement behind me..getting bigger and bigger and my brand new masterpiece spare tire carrier appeared in the rear view mirror...tire firmly attached...and it hit the pavement...hard...and bounced upwards..like a pheasant on the rise...up..up..upwards and out of my view in the rear view mirror. I never saw it again...though I spent hours trecking through the sage brush and tumbleweeds..searching..searching...in vain. It may have reached low earth orbit on its rise. Inspecting the weldment...showed that my brand new Lincoln Weldpack 125..had not penetrated the foundation element on the trailer..and the perfect beads Id laid so carefuly and lovingly..were beautiful pecker tracks that I knocked off with a chipping hammer. Zero penetration. Nada. Hardly had even smoked the paint. So I went back home..beat a new spare tire holder out of junk steel and rebar, welded it with 6010 rod at full amperage and straight polarity...then beat the **** out of it with a 4 lb sledge hammer, trying to get the welds to fail. It held..and has held for at least 18 yrs so far..carrying for all that time...a series of second hand tires I picked up for $10 off the Used Tire rack at the local mexican tire shop. I dream of that beautiful spare tire mount..sparkling in the sunlight..that georgious brand new D range tire and the brightly polished nuts that held it to that carrier...still..to this day. My screaming NO! NO! NO! wakes up my dear wife..who pats my hand and murmmers sympathy, before rolling over and going back to sleep. That was poetry. |
#7
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
On 12/12/2017 12:29 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:49:30 -0600, Terry Coombs wrote: Â* Well , today it's because I was welding with flux core wire on an older yard trailer . This thing was a gift , and you know what they say ... anyway , I've used this thing hard , it's primary task is hauling firewood out of the woods . Tires get green-briar thorns , and metal fatigues . Well , it's going to be a couple of days until the new tires arrive , so today I welded up all those fatigue cracks . Also added an angle iron reinforcement across the front at the top . And most of the welds had a lot of smut on the top . Because they were burned thru rust and paint/powder-coat . I don't care what they look like , as long as this thing holds together long enough to make that 25 bucks I spent on tires a reasonably decent investment . Â* -- Â* Snag Im sure somebody will drag open old wounds and pour salt in em...(grin).....so Ill beat em to it. I made up a really..really nice spare tire carrier for my old utility trailer... snippage occurs I dream of that beautiful spare tire mount..sparkling in the sunlight..that georgious brand new D range tire and the brightly polished nuts that held it to that carrier...still..to this day. My screaming NO! NO! NO! wakes up my dear wife..who pats my hand and murmmers sympathy, before rolling over and going back to sleep. Â* Yeah , I heard about that incident , though it was before I started reading RCM . No worries about cold laps when you're using short bursts to keep from burning thru your base metal . I have produced some cold laps welding on metal too thick for the machine , but I knew it when it happened . Now I either preheat or use a more powerful welder . Â* -- Â* Snag |
#8
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 07:01:35 -0600, Terry Coombs
wrote: On 12/12/2017 12:29 AM, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:49:30 -0600, Terry Coombs wrote: * Well , today it's because I was welding with flux core wire on an older yard trailer . This thing was a gift , and you know what they say ... anyway , I've used this thing hard , it's primary task is hauling firewood out of the woods . Tires get green-briar thorns , and metal fatigues . Well , it's going to be a couple of days until the new tires arrive , so today I welded up all those fatigue cracks . Also added an angle iron reinforcement across the front at the top . And most of the welds had a lot of smut on the top . Because they were burned thru rust and paint/powder-coat . I don't care what they look like , as long as this thing holds together long enough to make that 25 bucks I spent on tires a reasonably decent investment . * -- * Snag Im sure somebody will drag open old wounds and pour salt in em...(grin).....so Ill beat em to it. I made up a really..really nice spare tire carrier for my old utility trailer... snippage occurs I dream of that beautiful spare tire mount..sparkling in the sunlight..that georgious brand new D range tire and the brightly polished nuts that held it to that carrier...still..to this day. My screaming NO! NO! NO! wakes up my dear wife..who pats my hand and murmmers sympathy, before rolling over and going back to sleep. * Yeah , I heard about that incident , though it was before I started reading RCM . No worries about cold laps when you're using short bursts to keep from burning thru your base metal . I have produced some cold laps welding on metal too thick for the machine , but I knew it when it happened . Now I either preheat or use a more powerful welder . * -- * Snag I have a Lincoln SP125+ MIG welder and I love it. Thicker steel does require pre-heat but if ya know how to weld then you can tell when those pretty beads are only that-pretty. I learned how to MIG weld with my little welder but since I was already good at stick and TIG it was pretty easy. I also took a one day class from a welding instructor, Ernie Leimkuhler, which helped a lot. One thing I like about fluxcore is its ability to burn through rust and paint. Eric |
#9
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
|
#10
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 7:48:53 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
Â* Well , today it's because I was welding with flux core wire on an older yard trailer . This thing was a gift , and you know what they say ... anyway , I've used this thing hard , it's primary task is hauling firewood out of the woods . Tires get green-briar thorns , and metal fatigues . Well , it's going to be a couple of days until the new tires arrive , so today I welded up all those fatigue cracks . Also added an angle iron reinforcement across the front at the top . And most of the welds had a lot of smut on the top . Because they were burned thru rust and paint/powder-coat . I don't care what they look like , as long as this thing holds together long enough to make that 25 bucks I spent on tires a reasonably decent investment . Â* -- Â* Snag There is some wire that is especially good for slightly rusty steel. It is called dual shield. You use it with gas , but the wire also has flux in it. I would not use it to weld thru several layers of paint, but it is great for slightly rusty steel oc steel with mill scale. Dan |
#11
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 18:25:59 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 7:48:53 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote: * Well , today it's because I was welding with flux core wire on an older yard trailer . This thing was a gift , and you know what they say ... anyway , I've used this thing hard , it's primary task is hauling firewood out of the woods . Tires get green-briar thorns , and metal fatigues . Well , it's going to be a couple of days until the new tires arrive , so today I welded up all those fatigue cracks . Also added an angle iron reinforcement across the front at the top . And most of the welds had a lot of smut on the top . Because they were burned thru rust and paint/powder-coat . I don't care what they look like , as long as this thing holds together long enough to make that 25 bucks I spent on tires a reasonably decent investment . * -- * Snag There is some wire that is especially good for slightly rusty steel. It is called dual shield. You use it with gas , but the wire also has flux in it. I would not use it to weld thru several layers of paint, but it is great for slightly rusty steel oc steel with mill scale. Dan Good stuff indeed! Find it a lot on construction sites and places they do rework/adaptions --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
#12
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
On 12/11/2017 4:49 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Â* Well , today it's because [wheeze snipped] Probably it's because Mark Wieber "taught" you how to weld. |
#13
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
|
|||
|
|||
Why do my welds look like **** ?
On 12/14/2017 2:54 PM, a midget, a whore and a Chinaman go into a bar,
and... wrote: On 12/11/2017 4:49 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: Â*Â* Well , today it's because [wheeze snipped] Probably it's because Mark Wieber "taught" you how to weld. Â* Never met the man , wouldn't know him if I saw him . The welds themselves look just fine once you clean the flux and crud residues off .. The whole point was that I knew and understood what I was doing . BTW , I learned to weld back in like 1964 or '65 , stick and OA only at that time in my high school shop . Also cast my first aluminum sand mold around that same time . The name plate I made is hanging on my shop door .... now go back outside and play , adults are trying to talk . Â* -- Â* Snag |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
Belfort Instrument Company DigiWx AWOS SHIT, SHIT and MORE SHIT | Electronics Repair | |||
Porous, spattery welds | UK diy | |||
Good and bad copper sweat welds question | Home Repair | |||
Pleas comment on these TIG welds | Metalworking | |||
Bandsaw Blades - Bad welds, Carbon vs. Swedish steel. | Woodworking |