My 16 year old watched eclipse with his science class.

I picked up my 11 year old from school 20 minutes before the top of
the eclipse. We drove home and watched using shade 10 Omni-View
welding lenses with gold colored tint.

It was partly cloudy. Clouds, in fact, helped more than they hurt
because you could photograph the eclipsed sun easily. When the sun was
out, it was great to use shade 10 lenses, overall it was a great
experience.

In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/eclipse.jpg

Shade 14 glasses that the school gave my 16 year old, were way too dim
and he could barely see anything.

Overall everyone had a great experience, except the 11 year old got
sick with flu or some such.

i

On 08/21/2017 05:57 PM, Ignoramus22488 wrote:
In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.


Down here in Southern Arizona, it was pretty underwhelming. At the peak,
it was only about 40% eclipsed. It got darker yesterday from the cloud
cover, than today for the eclipse. It was completely clear today.

I used a #11 welding hood, and it was not dense enough here. I was
working in fairly low light all morning, and my eyes felt like I had
flashed them while welding. #12 would have been better, #14 probably
would have been too much.

BobH

On 2017-08-22, BobH wrote:
On 08/21/2017 05:57 PM, Ignoramus22488 wrote:
In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.


Down here in Southern Arizona, it was pretty underwhelming. At the peak,
it was only about 40% eclipsed. It got darker yesterday from the cloud
cover, than today for the eclipse. It was completely clear today.

I used a #11 welding hood, and it was not dense enough here. I was
working in fairly low light all morning, and my eyes felt like I had
flashed them while welding. #12 would have been better, #14 probably
would have been too much.

40% is underwhelming, I agree.

i

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On 2017-08-22, BobH
wrote:
On 08/21/2017 05:57 PM, Ignoramus22488 wrote:
In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent.
Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.


Down here in Southern Arizona, it was pretty underwhelming. At the
peak,
it was only about 40% eclipsed. It got darker yesterday from the
cloud
cover, than today for the eclipse. It was completely clear today.

I used a #11 welding hood, and it was not dense enough here. I was
working in fairly low light all morning, and my eyes felt like I
had
flashed them while welding. #12 would have been better, #14
probably
would have been too much.

40% is underwhelming, I agree.

i

60% here. The Solar Shield glasses that may or may not have been #5
under a #10 fixed welding helmet was about right, but the view on NASA
TV was better. I have a new 4G LTE hotspot that fed the laptop
outdoors.
-jsw

On 8/21/2017 7:57 PM, Ignoramus22488 wrote:
My 16 year old watched eclipse with his science class.

I picked up my 11 year old from school 20 minutes before the top of
the eclipse. We drove home and watched using shade 10 Omni-View
welding lenses with gold colored tint.

It was partly cloudy. Clouds, in fact, helped more than they hurt
because you could photograph the eclipsed sun easily. When the sun was
out, it was great to use shade 10 lenses, overall it was a great
experience.

In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/eclipse.jpg

Shade 14 glasses that the school gave my 16 year old, were way too dim
and he could barely see anything.

Overall everyone had a great experience, except the 11 year old got
sick with flu or some such.

i

Â* We got 92% here in The Holler . I watched a bit off and on , used the
auto-dark helmet set on 13 until it wouldn't stay dark because of the
low light levels . Got the old big lens always dark helmet with the #10
out at the peak and it was perfect .

Â* --

Â* Snag

Four things jumped out:
Firstly, the crescent shape light source gives odd appearance of the dappled
shade under my trees (lots of little crescent-shapes projected onto the ground).

Second, the brush and gravel seemed exceptionally vivid when the eclipse was
at 90% or so: the narrower light source made all the little shadows MUCH
sharper than one is accustomed to. It just looks... wierd.

Third, the shape of the crescent is NOT the same as the phases of the moon, it
is nearly the same curvature of the belly of the sun as of the shadow, but
when looking at the moon, you see the terminator nearly straight ( uncurved)
at 50% illumination. So, the shape of the crescent is ... odd.

Fourth, the familiar disk of the sun is ... not completely assured. It's a tad
disquieting, in a way that only a direct experience can communicate.

p.s. blackberries picked during an eclipse have the power to turn one's tongue black!

On 8/21/2017 6:14 PM, BobH wrote:
On 08/21/2017 05:57 PM, Ignoramus22488 wrote:
In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.


Down here in Southern Arizona, it was pretty underwhelming. At the peak,
it was only about 40% eclipsed. It got darker yesterday from the cloud
cover, than today for the eclipse. It was completely clear today.

I used a #11 welding hood, and it was not dense enough here. I was
working in fairly low light all morning, and my eyes felt like I had
flashed them while welding. #12 would have been better, #14 probably
would have been too much.

BobH
Wilson Pickett said it best, "ninety-nine and a half won't do."
Was 99.6 here.
Went outside and waited and waited and waited.
Went back to the TV and learned it was over.
Sharp shadows are interesting, but otherwise uneventful.

I measured it with my solar array. The power went to minimum
at the exact expected minute of maximum. Since we were far from the
dark zone, the intensity was needed to be accurate. I think we were
at 70%. Not good but not bad.

We used to have them overseas in the south Pacific both solar and lunar.
It was a stark difference back then. Not much illumination on a 500
yard wide island.

Martin

On 8/21/2017 7:57 PM, Ignoramus22488 wrote:
My 16 year old watched eclipse with his science class.

I picked up my 11 year old from school 20 minutes before the top of
the eclipse. We drove home and watched using shade 10 Omni-View
welding lenses with gold colored tint.

It was partly cloudy. Clouds, in fact, helped more than they hurt
because you could photograph the eclipsed sun easily. When the sun was
out, it was great to use shade 10 lenses, overall it was a great
experience.

In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/eclipse.jpg

Shade 14 glasses that the school gave my 16 year old, were way too dim
and he could barely see anything.

Overall everyone had a great experience, except the 11 year old got
sick with flu or some such.

i

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 8:57:11 PM UTC-4, Ignoramus22488 wrote:
My 16 year old watched eclipse with his science class.

I picked up my 11 year old from school 20 minutes before the top of
the eclipse. We drove home and watched using shade 10 Omni-View
welding lenses with gold colored tint.

It was partly cloudy. Clouds, in fact, helped more than they hurt
because you could photograph the eclipsed sun easily. When the sun was
out, it was great to use shade 10 lenses, overall it was a great
experience.

In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/eclipse.jpg

Shade 14 glasses that the school gave my 16 year old, were way too dim
and he could barely see anything.

Overall everyone had a great experience, except the 11 year old got
sick with flu or some such.

i

100% for something over a minute in Sun Valley Idaho. The difference between "almost" and 100% is like the difference between smelling pizza and eating pizza, or reading about sex and having sex.

Seeing the total eclipse, taking off the glasses during totality, was simply incredible. Very stark contrast between dark gray sky, super-white corona and black moon. Crickets chirped and it got noticably chilly.

On 2017-08-22, whit3rd wrote:
Four things jumped out:
Firstly, the crescent shape light source gives odd appearance of the dappled
shade under my trees (lots of little crescent-shapes projected onto the ground).


All those tiny gaps between the leaves become "sort-of" pinhole
cameras. I saw this during a partial solar eclipse way back in
1975.

On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 19:57:04 -0500, Ignoramus22488
wrote:

My 16 year old watched eclipse with his science class.

I picked up my 11 year old from school 20 minutes before the top of
the eclipse. We drove home and watched using shade 10 Omni-View
welding lenses with gold colored tint.

It was partly cloudy. Clouds, in fact, helped more than they hurt
because you could photograph the eclipsed sun easily. When the sun was
out, it was great to use shade 10 lenses, overall it was a great
experience.

In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.

I was 100 miles or so out of the totality band, so it was pretty
complete here. Smoke from a local fire plus overcast ruined it for
watching the amber disc in the sky. I took a couple brief scans of
the sun to see the bite small and then halfway. What surprised me is
that it didn't really get much darker, even with only a few percent of
the sun showing.

Tried a pair of binocs through the 13 auto-shade helmet directed onto
a white card, but it didn't work worth a hoot. And a pinhole in a 3x5
card was too small for detail.

The NASA website crashed, as did one Madras Oregon site. What a day.
Eclipses are getting old now, though. Trying to watch the morons on
the NASA site was downright painful. They'd show 15 seconds of the
actual eclipse picture then roar off into some disconnected sidetrack.
And Karen whatsherhame's voice and visuals were hard to bear. I
couldn't even hack watching 2 hours of them with the noise of the
college kids acting juvenile in the background. No wonder science is
hard to teach nowadays, given the circus atmo.


http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/eclipse.jpg

Shade 14 glasses that the school gave my 16 year old, were way too dim
and he could barely see anything.

Overall everyone had a great experience, except the 11 year old got
sick with flu or some such.

Bummer.

-
I am a Transfinancial--A rich person born in a poor person's body.
Please stop the hate by sending me money to resolve my money
identity disorder. --anon

On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 05:54:40 -0700
Larry Jaques wrote:

In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.

Similar conditions here. I did notice the temperature dropped around 5
degrees during the peak. And like others mentioned how the shadows cast
by trees look odd. I've seen the shadows before but still enjoy the
sight.

Used my cheapo HF auto darkening helmet for a couple brief looks. Had
to wave my hand in front of the sensor to make it darken. Mostly just
to see how much of the Sun was being covered. Not ideal but it goes up
to shade 13 and my fixed helmet is only 10. It probably would have been
fine though with what little bit of time I looked (10-15 seconds) and
the hazy sky conditions...

Every time some sort of unique solar viewing activity comes up I wish I
had a solar filter for my ETX 90 telescope. It should work well for
that kind of stuff. You don't need much magnification for a great
view with such a large object

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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Ignoramus22488 wrote:


I picked up my 11 year old from school 20 minutes before the top of
the eclipse. We drove home and watched using shade 10 Omni-View
welding lenses with gold colored tint.
I went in to work late, so I could watch it from home. It was quite cool.
(Weather was in fact quite HOT in St. Louis.) A good friend came by and set
up a pinhole camera and took time-lapse video of it. I had a couple welding
hoods, and he brought some, too. The totality was WAY too short to see all
I wanted to see, but I did kind of see the corona. Well, one item down off
my bucket list. 2 of our kids happened to be available to see it, too.

Jon

On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:44:52 -0500, Jon Elson
wrote:

Ignoramus22488 wrote:


I picked up my 11 year old from school 20 minutes before the top of
the eclipse. We drove home and watched using shade 10 Omni-View
welding lenses with gold colored tint.
I went in to work late, so I could watch it from home. It was quite cool.
(Weather was in fact quite HOT in St. Louis.) A good friend came by and set
up a pinhole camera and took time-lapse video of it. I had a couple welding
hoods, and he brought some, too. The totality was WAY too short to see all
I wanted to see, but I did kind of see the corona. Well, one item down off
my bucket list. 2 of our kids happened to be available to see it, too.

Jon
I totally missed it! I was in Toronto (~80%) navigating by GPS taking
DiL + 10yr old Grandaughter from the "other" London to view a tourtist
trap in downtown city centre so my mind wasn't tracking eclipses.
Besides, the important one for me was the Annular eclipse of 10 May
1994 it was a dark day in my office because that's the day I retired!
After AM coffee break, I took a last box of personal effects to my
vehicle and on a spur-of-the-moment brain flash said "why the F**k go
back in there." Never did find out if anyone's plans were frustrated
and didn't give a S**t.

On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 10:08:28 -0400, Leon Fisk
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 05:54:40 -0700
Larry Jaques wrote:

In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.

Similar conditions here. I did notice the temperature dropped around 5
degrees during the peak. And like others mentioned how the shadows cast
by trees look odd. I've seen the shadows before but still enjoy the
sight.

It was still in the low sixties here at 10:18am, so I didn't feel any
drop. The entire month has been eerie with the amber skies due to
smoke from not-distant-enough fires, so the eclipse was cheapened here
by that.


Used my cheapo HF auto darkening helmet for a couple brief looks. Had
to wave my hand in front of the sensor to make it darken. Mostly just
to see how much of the Sun was being covered. Not ideal but it goes up
to shade 13 and my fixed helmet is only 10. It probably would have been
fine though with what little bit of time I looked (10-15 seconds) and
the hazy sky conditions...

The week leading up to the eclipse was clear in the mornings, with no
haze and no smoke. We got cheated by a week, darnit!


Every time some sort of unique solar viewing activity comes up I wish I
had a solar filter for my ETX 90 telescope. It should work well for
that kind of stuff. You don't need much magnification for a great
view with such a large object

There's no time like now to order the parts to build one. I'd have
suggested that last month if you'd mentioned it.

-
I am a Transfinancial--A rich person born in a poor person's body.
Please stop the hate by sending me money to resolve my money
identity disorder. --anon

On 2017-08-22, mike wrote:
On 8/21/2017 6:14 PM, BobH wrote:
On 08/21/2017 05:57 PM, Ignoramus22488 wrote:
In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.


Down here in Southern Arizona, it was pretty underwhelming. At the peak,
it was only about 40% eclipsed. It got darker yesterday from the cloud
cover, than today for the eclipse. It was completely clear today.

I used a #11 welding hood, and it was not dense enough here. I was
working in fairly low light all morning, and my eyes felt like I had
flashed them while welding. #12 would have been better, #14 probably
would have been too much.

BobH
Wilson Pickett said it best, "ninety-nine and a half won't do."
Was 99.6 here.
Went outside and waited and waited and waited.
Went back to the TV and learned it was over.
Sharp shadows are interesting, but otherwise uneventful.

I am still envious of your 99.6%. I only had about 90%.

It did get considerably darker, like at dusk, right?

On 2017-08-22, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 19:57:04 -0500, Ignoramus22488
wrote:

My 16 year old watched eclipse with his science class.

I picked up my 11 year old from school 20 minutes before the top of
the eclipse. We drove home and watched using shade 10 Omni-View
welding lenses with gold colored tint.

It was partly cloudy. Clouds, in fact, helped more than they hurt
because you could photograph the eclipsed sun easily. When the sun was
out, it was great to use shade 10 lenses, overall it was a great
experience.

In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.

I was 100 miles or so out of the totality band, so it was pretty
complete here. Smoke from a local fire plus overcast ruined it for
watching the amber disc in the sky. I took a couple brief scans of
the sun to see the bite small and then halfway. What surprised me is
that it didn't really get much darker, even with only a few percent of
the sun showing.

Our perception is logarithmic. We can see in a huge band of ambient
lighting conditions. I was 300+ miles away.
i

On 2017-08-22, Jon Elson wrote:
Ignoramus22488 wrote:


I picked up my 11 year old from school 20 minutes before the top of
the eclipse. We drove home and watched using shade 10 Omni-View
welding lenses with gold colored tint.
I went in to work late, so I could watch it from home. It was quite cool.
(Weather was in fact quite HOT in St. Louis.) A good friend came by and set
up a pinhole camera and took time-lapse video of it. I had a couple welding
hoods, and he brought some, too. The totality was WAY too short to see all
I wanted to see, but I did kind of see the corona. Well, one item down off
my bucket list. 2 of our kids happened to be available to see it, too.

Awesome! You had it a lot better than down here...

On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 19:57:04 -0500, Ignoramus22488
wrote:

My 16 year old watched eclipse with his science class.

I picked up my 11 year old from school 20 minutes before the top of
the eclipse. We drove home and watched using shade 10 Omni-View
welding lenses with gold colored tint.

It was partly cloudy. Clouds, in fact, helped more than they hurt
because you could photograph the eclipsed sun easily. When the sun was
out, it was great to use shade 10 lenses, overall it was a great
experience.

In my town, the sun was eclipsed approximately by 90 percent. Despite
that, it was not dark, at its worst it was dim, like under a heavy
cloud cover. That dimness was, however, noticeable.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/eclipse.jpg

Shade 14 glasses that the school gave my 16 year old, were way too dim
and he could barely see anything.

Overall everyone had a great experience, except the 11 year old got
sick with flu or some such.

i

We rented a motor home and drove to Missouri, stopping at a lake in
Oklahoma on the way to and back. Just got home yesterday afternoon. I
had a couple pair welding goggles with #14 shades, and a solar filter
on my 11" telescope. Captured pictures on both sides, but lost
tracking when I yanked the filter off at totality. Grabbed the camera
off the scope and stuck on the telephoto.

The corona was very visible, and through the telephoto, I saw a big
solar flare. It was pink. The whole thing was fascinating, even
though like a chinese fire drill. The next one in 2024 will pass
within 100 miles of here. I'll watch if I'm able. And I'll bring a
good camera telephoto setup with a right angle view finder for
totality. Or if it's any shorter maybe I'll just watch, maybe with
binocs.

The photos were good, but the sunspots were not sharp due to high
cloud cover we were looking through. Earlier, I had the scope set up
for visual observation, and the sun spots were fascinating with
apparently black centers and fringes sort of like the iris of an eye.
The whole thing's a crap shoot with the weather, but we did ok.

Pete Keillor

Pete Keillor