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California: 11 Counties Have More Voters than Voting-Age Citizens
On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:16:17 AM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 9:14:08 AM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 05:50:17 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: National Voter Registration Act Of 1993 "Do States have to use the NCOA process to initiate the notice process? "No. States do not have to use the NCOA [National Change of Address program] process. Under the NVRA, States must have a general program that makes a reasonable effort to identify and remove the names of voters who have become ineligible to vote by means of a change of address. The program has to be uniform, non-discriminatory, in compliance with the Voting Rights Act and must be completed 90 days before a federal election. States otherwise have discretion under the NVRA and HAVA in how they design their general program, and States currently undertake a variety of approaches to how they initiate the notice process." In other words, good luck. -- Ed Huntress Under the NVRA, States must have a general program that makes a reasonable effort to identify and remove the names of voters who have become ineligible to vote by means of a change of address In other words there is a requirement. THere does not seem to be compliance. You asked about a requirement. The same applies to illegal immagrants. There is a requirment, but not much compliance. There are two problems with this "requirement." First, states can't remove someone for four years after they question a residency by the mail survey procedure described in the Act.. Second, and stemming from the first point, they can't remove someone even if they don't return the confirmation postcard, if they DO vote in the subsequent four years. In other words, it can't catch fraudulent voters if they vote in multiple jurisdictions, unless they fail to vote in a four year period. Which makes the whole thing moot as a device to prevent multiple votes in multiple states. -- Ed Huntress It says you have to have a system to remove from the voter rolls voters that have become ineligible. You either have a system or you are not in compliance. Under the NVRA, States must have a general program that makes a reasonable effort to identify and remove the names of voters who have become ineligible to vote by means of a change of address. What part of this do you not understand? Dan |
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California: 11 Counties Have More Voters than Voting-Age Citizens
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 14:59:28 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:16:17 AM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 9:14:08 AM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 05:50:17 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: National Voter Registration Act Of 1993 "Do States have to use the NCOA process to initiate the notice process? "No. States do not have to use the NCOA [National Change of Address program] process. Under the NVRA, States must have a general program that makes a reasonable effort to identify and remove the names of voters who have become ineligible to vote by means of a change of address. The program has to be uniform, non-discriminatory, in compliance with the Voting Rights Act and must be completed 90 days before a federal election. States otherwise have discretion under the NVRA and HAVA in how they design their general program, and States currently undertake a variety of approaches to how they initiate the notice process." In other words, good luck. -- Ed Huntress Under the NVRA, States must have a general program that makes a reasonable effort to identify and remove the names of voters who have become ineligible to vote by means of a change of address In other words there is a requirement. THere does not seem to be compliance. You asked about a requirement. Whoa. I thought you understood there was no requirement from what I posted about the Act. Apparently not. So here's the exchange again: [Dan] I am of the opinion that there has always been a restriction on being registered to vote in multiple areas. So how is actually enforcing that is unprecedented. [Ed] No, there has been no such "restriction." Tell us about nationwide laws that say you have to de-register when you move from one state to another. [Dan] National Voter Registration Act Of 1993 The NVRA does NOT say you have to de-register. It has no such requirement. Did you read the Act? Probably not. I did, as I always do to double-check my facts. You're off base here, Dan. There is no requirement for individuals to de-register. In fact, as I pointed out in another post, the provisions of the Act won't even catch you if you vote in multiple states at least every four years. If you do that, you don't have to return the postcards the states are supposed to send out. But let me emphasize this again: The NVRA does NOT require that you de-register when you leave one state and register in your new state. And that's what I said above. Tell Gunner. He could use some education. g The same applies to illegal immagrants. There is a requirment, but not much compliance. There are two problems with this "requirement." First, states can't remove someone for four years after they question a residency by the mail survey procedure described in the Act.. Second, and stemming from the first point, they can't remove someone even if they don't return the confirmation postcard, if they DO vote in the subsequent four years. In other words, it can't catch fraudulent voters if they vote in multiple jurisdictions, unless they fail to vote in a four year period. Which makes the whole thing moot as a device to prevent multiple votes in multiple states. -- Ed Huntress It says you have to have a system to remove from the voter rolls voters that have become ineligible. You either have a system or you are not in compliance. Under the NVRA, States must have a general program that makes a reasonable effort to identify and remove the names of voters who have become ineligible to vote by means of a change of address. What part of this do you not understand? Dan That does not say that individuals have to de-register, which is what I said. It explains what the states are supposed to do to remove various kinds of ineligible voters. It says nothing about "de-registering." Your response was...ah...non-responsive. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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